I did 2 teen shows and 2 men shows, the last one being the Excalibur a few weeks ago.
I turn 21 in February and plan on taking some time off to bulk up now.
I think Tren is not needed here. You already got enough other drugs floating in your system imo 
lol
And yea I wouldn’t drop your baby…then they find out your on the sauce and my gawddd the media would have a frienzy. lol
DG
Wow you are only 20…very impressive.
I didnt think tren would be needed but just thought i’d ask lol.
Yeah you’re right…it would have happened because of roid rage and I’m suicidal and who knows what else haha
So i’ve decided I think I am going to do a trial diet on my own after this cycle…I know its 4 months from now but I think it would be a good way to see how my body reacts so I can be more dialed in when I compete.
I’ll be using a keto diet for the prep. It’s one of Palumbos…
I plan on using Test during the cut at about 400mg/wk. Tren Ace at 75mg EOD to start…will play with the dose from there, and EQ at 600mg/wk…anything anyone would change?
[quote]juice82 wrote:
Wow you are only 20…very impressive.
I didnt think tren would be needed but just thought i’d ask lol.
Yeah you’re right…it would have happened because of roid rage and I’m suicidal and who knows what else haha
So i’ve decided I think I am going to do a trial diet on my own after this cycle…I know its 4 months from now but I think it would be a good way to see how my body reacts so I can be more dialed in when I compete.
I’ll be using a keto diet for the prep. It’s one of Palumbos…
I plan on using Test during the cut at about 400mg/wk. Tren Ace at 75mg EOD to start…will play with the dose from there, and EQ at 600mg/wk…anything anyone would change?
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Most agree that Tren Ace should be shot ED for more stable blood levels and I agree.
You could bump your test as well, although if you were totally prepping for a contest most would want to drop the test weeks in advance to minimize the bloat.
I know next to nothing about EQ. I do believe there are better drugs out there while ‘cutting’.
Palumbo has some pretty good advice and some fcked up sht Imo. Just research anything he has to say. Sometimes physiology proves him otherwise and he still believes he’s right. Just my .02 about him, but I like reading a lot of his info and think the bulk of it is good stuff.
I think a trial diet is fine as long as you don’t do it at a serious sacrifice of muscle.
DG
Points taken!
That is the point of the trial diet…I want to make sure that I am able to do it without the sacrifice of too much muscle. If I start to notice that I am losing a lot of muscle mass I can adjust accordingly and make the adjustments before my actual contest prep.
There are a couple of PT’s in my area but I’m not sure how much I trust them…I’d like to have someone who can actually tell me why they have me taking or doing certain things as opposed to just saying do it.
Take the advice of someone who hasd worked the fitness industry for years - as a bodybuilder and a PT.
A PT - even a good one, will not be versed with the intricacies of a bodybuilding diet designed for peak stage performance… not unless they are involved in some way themselves.
A helpful, knowledgeable and smart competitive BB or ex-BB is worth twice the weight of those PT’s i would guess.
Brook
Yeah I agree completely…it’s like when these guys that are 6’ 125lbs come up and try offering advice on how to make better gains…just irritates me
I wanna try the sample diet myself and get to know my body a little better and then use someone for my actual contest prep…also I take most of what you guys on here say as well because you have been there before
also when you are talking to whomever it is you will be taking advice from for dieting, make sure they are knowledgable about AAS. A diet with gear can be much different than a diet without.
I agree with Brook…somebody who knows the ins and outs of competition dieting is FARR great than just your average trainer.
DG
Thanks Brook and DG, you two have been very helpful. Given me a lot to think about.
So I did a ventroglute injection yesterday, it’s my first one…and sweet jesus I can barely walk haha…also have some pretty bad test flu right now. I am assuming it’s from the dose of the test and EQ. The test is dosed at 400mg/ml and the EQ at 300 mg/ml.
How long does test flu usually last at the start of a cycle? I’ve had it once before but that was my first cycle and was just 500mg test per week and only lasted about a week.
I can’t comment on test flu as I have never experienced it. I can tell you that if the ventroglute hurts, you are in for a world of pain in other sites, For me, ventroglute is the least painful site. Glutes are a close second. Quads are hell…
I liked shoulders and quads. Glutes SUCK. I tried VG a few times but it hurt like hell same as glutes.
I’ve had some squirters in my shoulders and aspirated blood in my lateralus, but other than that not too many problems.
Sorry man but I never got the test flu that I know of either…
DG
Yeah for me I love shoulders, and my quads arent too bad either…was just trying to find some other places so I’m not using the same spots all the time. But I have to say the glutes and ventroglutes seem to be the worst. I am hardly able to walk now lol
Ah well it’s all part of the game, gotta Grow!
So it seems as though I might be allergic to EO based “vitamins”. I had some complications before with stuff I had used that was EO based and talking to my dr. he said it could either be an allergy to EO or the BA content is too high.
This stuff however I know the BA content is 2% so that should not be an issue. I haven’t been able to get rid of this fever for 4 days now and I don’t want to take too much for it as I’m already taking anadrol. I am taking NAC as well but still, I like to be a bit careful.
However, the area that I injected isn’t red or swollen or anything like that, it’s just sore as hell. Also, with the fever it’s hard to eat the way I should be…so far this cycle has been shit.
Gonna try and train shoulders today and see how that goes.
Hey guys! Ok so it turns out this test I am using is crazy. It hurts so bad i am unable to workout for a few days after with the site I have injected and getting terrible test flu…so I am going to cut it with sterile grapeseed oil. In doing this would I need oil that has 2% BA already in it or will cutting the test with just sterile oil be fine?
I hope this helps with the pain
Thanks
is this your first cycle mate?
You dont need to use more BA - this helps to dissolve the powder into the solution and also sterilize the product in the first place (along with filtering).
What is the concentration, it isnt 400mg/ml is it or some shit?!
are you going to buy sterile grapeseed or sterilise it yoursen?
No this is not my first cycle. Just my first time using test this concentrated, yes it is 400mg/ml. With my previous cycles I have not had pain that would prevent me from walking or cause a fever like this shit does. I was going to buy sterile GSO and just draw and even amount of test and GSO into the same syringe and inject. What good is the test if I’m unable to train for days after lol
Absolutely.
Well it turns out that cutting the test makes a HUGE difference! I am just drawing an even amount of test and sterile oil into the same vial and voila…no more pain :). Thanks for the help with that Brook!
So I finally have this cycle back on track and the strength gains are starting to kick in. Putting up weights that I havent put up before…weight is also up about 6lbs. Even running the Adex at 1mg e3d I am noticing some bloat but that is to be expected with anadrol.
Really looking forward to the next few months!!!
I am interested as to why you chose EQ instead of deca for your mass cycle.
availability perhaps ?
Your cycle looks good to me, I was just fully expecting to see deca in it. Again, absolutely nothing wrong with not using it, just wondering.
[quote]Westclock wrote:
I am interested as to why you chose EQ instead of deca for your mass cycle.
availability perhaps ?
Your cycle looks good to me, I was just fully expecting to see deca in it. Again, absolutely nothing wrong with not using it, just wondering.[/quote]
Availability was the biggest reason…and the shutdown weighed in on my decision as well. With that being said, I havent used either in the past and will go with deca the next time around.
It’s also a good way for me to be able to compare the two and see if EQ is even worth taking. I have heard mixed results with it, some love it and some say its shit.
[quote]juice82 wrote:
Westclock wrote:
I am interested as to why you chose EQ instead of deca for your mass cycle.
availability perhaps ?
Your cycle looks good to me, I was just fully expecting to see deca in it. Again, absolutely nothing wrong with not using it, just wondering.
Availability was the biggest reason…and the shutdown weighed in on my decision as well. With that being said, I havent used either in the past and will go with deca the next time around.
It’s also a good way for me to be able to compare the two and see if EQ is even worth taking. I have heard mixed results with it, some love it and some say its shit.
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anyone who says EQ is shit is smoking crack. It is very useful, just not as a serious mass builder.
Deca is a very potent mass builder when stacked with test, and usually all out bulk cycles will use it in that manner.
EQ isnt really a very good bulking agent directly, but…
EQ should help with appetite, and eating is going the most important factor in your bulk anyways, so it should be useful to you even if it did nothing else, and it does add mass, strength, and some nice comfort effects.
Overall your probably going to feel “better” with EQ in your cycle. Many people include a small dose of it in all cycles for this reason.