Newbie Needs Help

I have been lurking around T Nation for awhile now and have finally joined. The knowledge here is incredible. Getting prepared to start my third cycle and wanted some opinions. Anyone out there willing to help. Furious George’s post back in 2008 about newbie cycle preparation was absolutely awesome.

I have a mentor that has been leading me in the right direction but would like to see what you vets think. Before I go into all of my history will anyone answer. Hope you guys make me feel at home here and thanks for your time.

Ninetoes

No one can answer this without knowing your history. You didn’t even mention what your goals are. This is the most vague post about use I have ever seen.

so you started a thread to ask if anyone would answer if you started a thread?

Yes, I suppose someone probably would.

Give us your goals, diet, training and cycle history. I’ll do what I can. But as these guys guys mentioned it’s a very vague post and any answer you get will be general and irrelevant to your specific case.

Sorry guys. Had to cut my post short earlier.

5’ 10
180 lbs
12% bf

Wk 1-10 test 250 500 mg/wk
Wk 3-8 tren en 400 mg/wk
Wk 3-4 100 mg/day then 75/day till gone (100 tabs)

Have more test and tren to go longer if needed.

Pct: 5000 iu hcg every 5 days starting two weeks after last shot of test.

Novladex@ 60/40/20

Previous cycles include a simple cycle of test 450 and another cycle of test en and dbol.
Just testing the water and getting back into lifting.

Thanks guys.

Ninetoes

Goal is to gain some mass/strength. Shed some body fat. Just get bigger and not screw myself up.

All injects would be e3d.

Thanks and apologize for that first “unfinished” post.

Ninetoes

why are you waiting til week 3 to start the tren? Also I see no mention of AI or dopamine agonist?

Exactly why I am here yogi. I had this cycle recommended to me and I wanted a second opinion. What would you suggest I do? Run adex throughout and have caber on hand? As far as waiting on the tren I don’t know. Again this is why I am here. Thanks for your input. Please continue .

My coach has trained for 25 years with gear. He is a beast ( 6.'2 260 lbs. nicely cut).and like I said he has led me this far. But he has never even mentioned pct or anything else for that matter as far as sides go. I have had good luck in the fact that I have had no problems with my first two cycles but I might not be as lucky as him as far as sides go. Especially taking it up a notch with this cycle?

As far as pct goes if things go right I might just cruise on through and not have “off time”. Always have extra test to taper off if need be. But I want to do things right and explore all options. Why wouldn’t I throw myself to the wolves on here to save myself the sides that can and do happen to people? I appreciate any feedback you guys can give me and don’t take the time you spend guiding people like me for granted. Thanks.

Ninetoes

To answer your other question about waiting three weeks before starting tren. Think maybe my coach letting the test build up to good levels and also to take advantage of the sensitivity of my receptors due to the fact I’m a newbie? Don’t really know but sure as hell want to! And for the record I had a typo as far as his weight " nicely cut" . More like 230 or so cut up. Thanks again .

Ninetoes

P.s. I want to learn this gear thing. If I’m coming across as a fuckin tool it’s not intended. I’m just eager to learn. Gotta be someone on here that started out like me that will help a brother out.

Happy Fathers Day to all the dads out there.

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Also the tabs are dbol.

Hcg not for post cycle, what are the tabs you have a hundred of?

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and getting back into lifting.

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Right on

@ BUDs: I’m 40 years old. Been lifting since junior high. Had a bad accident two years ago. Horse fell with me on the side of a mountain. Broke ribs, jacked up shoulder,elbow, concussion. Layed there in those rocks knocked out for hours.

Took me a year to get half ass straight. Started lifting a year ago. Those injuries still keep me from training the way I used to. BUT, I was 150 pounds after getting over that wreck and now I’m 180. Maybe that sheds some light on getting back to lifting.

@eatliftsleep. Dbol 25 mg

HCG has to be used during cycle, 500mg a wk should be ok, start on your second week

[quote]ninetoes wrote:
@ BUDs: I’m 40 years old. Been lifting since junior high. Had a bad accident two years ago. Horse fell with me on the side of a mountain. Broke ribs, jacked up shoulder,elbow, concussion. Layed there in those rocks knocked out for hours.

Took me a year to get half ass straight. Started lifting a year ago. Those injuries still keep me from training the way I used to. BUT, I was 150 pounds after getting over that wreck and now I’m 180. Maybe that sheds some light on getting back to lifting. [/quote]

I assume you have had an “All clear” from your doctor. I would hate to see you start AAS with some compromised internal organs from a fall like that. Truthfully, I’d be happy to just be alive. If you’re at the “Getting back into lifting” stage, maybe holding off for now may be best.