The wife and I also have cut out alcohol for the time being, and yes - even on days where I didn’t drink much, I was noticeably more groggy in the morning, and both of our moods have been awesome. I don’t see how anything but good things can happen when you cut poison out of your diet, haha
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I thought the same thing bruh …
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Wait!!
Alcohol is poison?
but it makes me feel so good - it even makes me taller and good looking.
amirite?
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I honestly dont see how you could be more awesome @polo77j
Just sayin…
No no no no, that’s cocaine, dude.
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My grandma was the same (regarding the cigarettes, otherwise very healthy) she smoked a lot for about 40 years and is now going on 96
No, that’s booze for me too… effects everyone differently. Some become violent and disorderly, destroying property… some make incredibly stupid decisions every time they’re under the influence, some become euphoric and legitimately seem as if they’re on something else… some become more charismatic, able to talk better (or what they perceive to be better, but the room surveying just sees a stammering drunk dude), fearless etc
I drank booze until it made me tall, now I’m 6’3-4 and I need cocaine to be taller. Get with the science.
I also enjoyed our scene together in the new Star Wars show.
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Do you still use cocaine?
Tis really bad for you, I’d going into the mechanisms as to why, but it’d take up too much space. I can email you as to why if you wish.
Alcohol is also super, super bad for you (though I’d say regarding physical harm, acutely and chronically cocaine is somewhat worse), it’s one of the few drugs where I’d stipulate the danger of physical harm is greater than that of alcohol. THOUGH, pancreatitis (potentially lethal) can develop from one session of binge drinking… as can myocardial infarction in young men without any prior risk factors
but if you’re aware and still choose to indulge then that’s you’re own informed decision and I’d respect that more than someone blindly snorting fat lines
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No, dude. I don’t fuck with any of that shit anymore. Every post except alcohol being poison was a joke, too. I understand you aren’t able to pick up on sarcasm as easily as some, though, so no worries haha
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Alcohol is poison, even worse than tobacco if you ask me. Statistically, one who is addicted to smoking shaves ten year’s off their life. People who have been hospitalised substance abuse disorder regarding alcohol appear to have a life expectancy appears to be 24-28 years shorter for alcoholics… There will be outliers (as in the one who acquires lung/liver cancer at 24 and the one who doesn’t appear to induce much, if any damage and lives a long life)… but on average it does appear that alcohol (when one is dependent) induces more harm
however I’d garner cigarettes are more addictive than alcohol. Can link literature indicating that while the brain is still developing (prior to full development, but say ages 14-17) for a certain genetically predisposed subset of the populace one cigarette is enough to saturate nicotinic receptors in the brain for a good few months or longer, once this wears off the individual will actually want a cigarette again etc… so theoretically, despite how unpleasant one’s first cigarette is (aside from the head spins), some younger smokers may get hooked from their FIRST dart!
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I always find these tidbits interesting because when I was using drugs and alcohol I really didn’t expect to live very long.
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Yes, the human body can take a surprising amount of abuse. Some more than others (there are always those that are unlucky, certain genetic elements… cardiac defects etc will dramatically impair one’s ability to withstand abuse)… You’ve also got those ones who are unlucky, who will go into cardiac arrest after snorting one (and their only… first) line of cocaine.
Just because life expectancy is reduced by say 10-30 years doesn’t mean health consequences haven’t developed prior to that. If you’re living the last 5-10 years in a hospital bed, that’s not much of a life is it. Living with COPD or emphysema can really reduce overall quality of life… alcoholic cardiomyopathy wouldn’t be a pleasant experience either
From what I remember, you had a myocardial infarction in you’re 40s… not that out of the norm statistically, but given you’re past, it’s safe to say said myocardial infarction would not have occurred without numerous exogenous variables being in the play. You’re still alive, however at consequence of having to deal with the consequences and recovery from a heart attack.
If that’s you in you’re profile pic you look like you’ve made some decent progress btw
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The doc and nurses were very clear that smoking was a major factor. Really the only one,with the disclaimer that sure, sometimes it just happens, but no, not in this case.
Haven’t drank in 17 years, and no drugs for 20+.
Thanks. I’ve been better, but for 47 I think I’m doin ok.
well, for starters, I could take a page or two out of the Book of Edgy
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yes, tobacco deleteriously effects arterial stiffness, ability to vasodialate, alters clotting factors/increases platelet aggregation, increases HCT, has direct ischemic effects on cardiac tissue/vessels, may induce structural changes in the heart itself, induces accelerated rates of plaque buildup and more
particularly the platelet aggregation/ pro clotting effects are the most dangerous as one ages… that and the arterial stiffening, atherosclerosis progression is a very slow progression… unless you’re using like trenbolone + winstrol + smoking, then it’ll develop at unprecedented rates.
Not to say one can’t smoke, if they’re aware of the risks yet like the activity… then so be it… however there line between “I do this sometimes because I like it” and “this is a full blown addiction, I can’t stop” is very fine. Some can get away with casual/social smoking, and it does make one feel good (effects on neurotransmission) however the addictive nature of the drug (nicotine, which is rather extreme compared to many other recreational substances) makes it a difficult one to merely experiment with, there does appear to be a subset of people who are almost “immune” if you will, to nicotine addiction (can chainsmoke for weeks or months on end, suddenly stop and not pick up another cigarette for a very long time, gets no withdrawal symptoms/cravings)
Sometimes one has a perfectly normal heart, is unlucky, and the smoking (risk factor) forms a clot of epic proportions… particularly more likely the older you are
Funnily enough, in London I tried a cigar (I’d had a miniature cigar before, but that’s more “here’s one cigarette marketed as a cigar so we can sell you singular cigarettes”)… and I inhaled the first half… acquired symptoms of nicotine poisoning
so…with that math, if my Mom didnt smoke and drink she’s have lived to be…
135 -
did I do the math right?
No, as I I’ve said the amount of cellular damage induced is different for everyone
However I can guarantee you she would’ve lived longer had she not smoked. Perhaps 90, perhaps 95/100 but in that case I’d say who cares haha
There’s living… and then there’s living with adequate quality of life, which isn’t something many 95 year olds can still have
Granted what adequate quality stands for will differ based on individualistic ideology/expectations
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Does any of that stop you, or have you figured out enough to just continue using?
My wager was that I had great athleticism for a very long time, strong, and exercised regularly so I wasn’t at great risk. Problem was that for the past couple of years I just couldn’t recover from heavy lifting anymore, and it wasn’t the one I was smoking that would get me. It was the one somewhere down the line.
3 of the arteries in my heart said otherwise though.
Huh?? I don’t smoke… regularly
And now that I’ve put down the notion of drinking… ever… I don’t smoke… ever either (well cannabis is a different story, and may not be much better given cannabis itself, despite being touted as relatively harmless does have impacts on the cardiovascular system)
But you’re right, having the knowledge of something may not be deterrent enough to abstain from use. I’m well aware of the dose dependent impacts say anything above a replacement dosage of testosterone may entail, yet I choose to partake regardless (though I don’t “cycle”). I have my reasons besides vanity at stake (I find the dramatically increased muscular bulk and strength greatly protects my joints/connective tissue, I have BJHMS), and this occurs without me having to lift the very heavy weights (creating extra strain) one would associate with acquiring significant levels of muscular hypertrophy. You will decide to chew me out here… that’s fine…
However to deter one from doing X/Y/Z I find the greatest way to help isn’t to launch a tirade of insults at the individual making bad decisions… for many, myself included this causes us to tune out, factual information must be provided, and at that point if it isn’t enough one must be left to make their own choices and individualisticslly reap the consequences associated with said decisions