Hi all -
New to TRT here. Just started a few days ago. Would love to hear from experienced people what changes you first noticed and when.
Did you first see changes 1 week, 2 weeks, something else after starting?
What exactly did you see? What changes in mood, your body, etc.
So please share info about the changes and timeline if you can.
Thanks!
All of your questions have been asked and answered here before. Do your search on this thread and then come back if you need more.
Plus read everything written by @physioLojik. If you don’t know, he’s a trained Endo who is also a competitive BBer and knowledgeable steroid user.
It takes 6 weeks for blood levels to stabilize after starting TRT and longer to notice full benefits provided your testosterone and estrogen are in a good range for you.
I noticed mood improvements at about 6 weeks considering I was so far off base on dosing and injection frequency of once weekly. Now I inject 10mg every day and respond much better. Some guys experience a honeymoon period for 1-3 weeks until the HPTA shuts down and one must wait for things to iron themselves out.
Effects on sexual interest appear after 3 weeks plateauing at 6 weeks, with no further increments expected beyond. Changes in erections/ejaculations may require up to 6 months. Effects on quality of life manifest within 3–4 weeks, but maximum benefits take longer. Effects on depressive mood become detectable after 3–6 weeks with a maximum after 18–30 weeks. Effects on erythropoiesis are evident at 3 months, peaking at 9–12 months. Prostate-specific antigen and volume rise, marginally, plateauing at 12 months; further increase should be related to aging rather than therapy. Effects on lipids appear after 4 weeks, maximal after 6–12 months. Insulin sensitivity may improve within few days, but effects on glycemic control become evident only after 3–12 months. Changes in fat mass, lean body mass, and muscle strength occur within 12–16 weeks, stabilize at 6–12 months, but can marginally continue over years. Effects on inflammation occur within 3–12 weeks. Effects on bone are detectable already after 6 months while continuing at least for 3 years.
The time-course of the spectrum of effects of testosterone shows considerable variation, probably related to pharmacodynamics of the testosterone preparation. Genomic and non-genomic effects, androgen receptor polymorphism and intracellular steroid metabolism further contribute to such diversity.
Super helpful. Thanks !
What about how many weeks in before you notice any changes in body hair? I’ve read some people talking about this.
I definitely had a change in body hair. Went from some gaps in my beard to a full beard. Chest and belly hair increased significantly.
How along were you when you started noticing that? I can barely grow anything and I was really hoping for an improvement on the facial hair.
Pre TRT I had little to no estrogen in my body. It was effecting my joints (specifically my shoulders) and I was in alot of pain. Had been for over a year. Within three days I saw relief in my shoulders. On the third day i did bench press with no pain for the first time in a long time. Pre TRT I was dealing with alot of depression issues that also dissipated very quickly. The first three weeks were pretty rocky dealing with some fatigue specifically the day after an injection and the day before the next injection. Kind of felt like a roller coaster. After three weeks I felt stable. That was in January of this year. It’s been 9 months and it has had a dramatic impact on my quality of life. I now just wish I would have gotten blood work sooner. Years sooner. I now recommend to everyone I care about that they start getting bloodwork now especially if they are feeling good. So you ha e some kind of baseline. I’m 37 and never did so I was low my while life for all I know. I’ll never know.
@alldayeveryday Brother just quick small question, i am moving onto Test injections from this cream, is best place to pin for sure Delts & glutes? that is safest also away from Veiny areas. just checking i heard lots of guys about 80% do standard glutes shots rotating each side.
It’s all preference my brother. I like delt injections and rotate back and forth. I use 28 gauge 1/2" insulin syringe. Mostly painless. Hit a nerve every now and again. The muscle fibers will twitch. Glutes work. No doubt. Upper outer quadrant. You probably already know that. Some prefer quads. You could also consider sub q into belly/love handles. Some see better results with sub q with higher more stable levels. Possibly lower estrogen. I tried it. Didnt see any difference between it and shallow IM delt.
Glute only worries me for getting abcess or infection, or is that impossible in the right area of Glute? example Ventrogluteal area. so Do i not got much too worry about with Butt abscesses right? should be all good if i am doing shot correctly?
I like to alcohol wipe needle too, extra safe nothing wrong playing it lol. I am moving onto Shots man soon from this silly Test Cream. going on Test E it’s pretty thick viscous stuff. @alldayeveryday
You can get an abscess anywhere you inject. Let’s just say a piece of silicone becomes lodged in the needle and you inject it. Bam. Possible abscess. Take precautions. Be as sanitary as possible. That’s all I can tell you.
Yes i think wiping the injection needle too, not just the spot on my muscle is extra good too? like swab me then swab the Pin Tip to clean that too should be cool yeah bro? @alldayeveryday
I would advise against wiping the needle. I’ve never seen this recommended anywhere. If your buying legit needles they will come sealed and sanitary.
Okay, and Nelson Vergel do you think he has ideal setup, 27g shallow IM rotating both delts? i did practice as i already got syringes/needles at home, and putting the needles in my delts, felt more Natural & comfortable too me. seems ideal location I.M
Also brand i have you probably know of TERUMO shipped from proper UK supplier of medicals mainly needles. I believe in U.S you guys got the EasyTouch needles.
Yes. I use easy touch. And yes Nelson is the one that turned me on to shallow IM delt injections.
@alldayeveryday epic brother, does it flow better in the your system from the Shoulders? or don’t make a difference in case of ester.
It’s all good. I’m bored at work lol. I dont think it absorbs any better. Once you inject it’s going to do its thing.
Okay since you’re bored. But this definitely my last Q bro as it’s late in U.K soon and getting good old Rest lol.
Since this my first shot gonna be exciting i guess. was it Exciting for you, and did you notice Huge Libido SEX boost in first few days on the Test you pinned or brain benefits man. @alldayeveryday
It was exciting but once the actual moment arrived I was a nervous wreck. I had done so much research and thought about it so much that I thought I was gonna be fine. I was wrong. I’ve never seen myself shake like that. I felt so stupid. I made it through it though. Each consecutive shot got better and better. Now it’s like nothing. Like as simple as brushing my teeth before bed.