Haha i just looked it up, and i will manage to “shoot the boot” somehow. Maybe not right now, but possibly college.
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I think laner just meant don’t wait until you’re bigger to start.[quote/]
Yea I don’t mean forget about getting bigger, just it’s not that important when you are starting out, he doesn’t need to be a 20 stone beast just to put some boots on and have a game, worry about developing game skills and understanding first, strength, speed and size can come later. for example look how small Jonny Wilkinson was, 5’10" and 13 stone still managed to put some big hits on guys much bigger than him plus he probably had the best handling and kicking skills of the time.
No, get bigger and stronger to play rugby. I have never seen a player suffer from getting bigger and stronger and faster to play rugby.
Did I not state to do big compound lifts? would they not increase size and strength??
Did I not say do explosive movements AKA plyometrics - easiest way to improve speed and power??
Also he is a beginner by the looks of things so I recommended a recognised beginners programme, in which everyone who has done it has received mass and strength gains…
oh no I forget he’s gotta get big and strong to play rugby.
[quote]laner wrote:
don’t worry about having to get bigger or stronger to play, I know a lot of weaker and smaller players than myself that are better at tackling, it’s mostly technique and just having the balls to put your head where it looks like it’s gonna hurt
p.s. the more you back out of contact the more it hurts [/quote]
Whatever good content you had was negated by this bullshit.
How is it bullshit, it’s fact. Fair enough a weaker, smaller player such as most scrum halfs can’t make the big hits that a bigger player can( as in man and ball hit the player in the chest and drive backwards) but they can still do a textbook tackle very successfully.
Plus position plays a big part it the necessity of size and strength, yes a good base level of strength will help in pretty much all areas of the game but it’s no the be all and end all of the whole sport.
another example - adam jones for wales and the lions near on 20 stone and cannot run any faster than a jog, would you still say that he is better for it because he is big and strong?
just look at the players 10-15 years ago the most weight training most of them did was carrying their kit bag around yet some of the best players ever known were produced during that era. I understand that times are changing and people love to see the big hits and collisions but just telling him he needs to get bigger and stronger is not what he needs.
having never played rugby before he needs to develop his basic skills and awareness more than anything
You can be as big as you like but if you can catch pass and tackle your useless to anybody
can’t*
[quote]music554 wrote:
Alright cool. I looked at the WS4SB Part III and I am probably going to do that. Its incorporating lifting as well as running. I have also found a team not to far from my house where i am thinking about playing this fall and continuing to play next spring and possibly the summer. I wanted to start playing rugby earlier so that when i get to college I do well.[/quote]
Good stuff. If you haven’t already contacted the team, do it now. That way they’ll be able to keep you in the loop as to when practices start or if they organize anything prior to the official start.
As for the lifting, if you liked the WS4SB 3 setup then start it and don’t bother looking around anymore. This may sound odd, but you don’t want too many options. It’s easy to get “paralyzed” with too much detail.
You will do yourself a lot of favours by starting the WS4SB’s program and then asking questions looking at other lifting options AS you are progressing.
Same thing with rugby, get your name in with the team now. Don’t worry about which position you want to play or anything. I’ll be the first to admit that playing in the pack is more fun (from my perspective anyway) but i enjoyed starting in the backs more than sitting on the side lines playing second string hooker. What I’m try to say is that it’s good to have a preference, but play wherever the team can use you.
Of yeah, and be sure to keep us updated on your lifting and playing.
Alright. I will make sure to keep you updated on my lifting and playing. I am starting WS4SB today. My older brother told me when they start playing because he plays for this 7’s team over the summer. I believe that they start in August for the fall team, thats what it said on there website. I am going to contact the coach via email to let him know i am intrested in playing this fall.
Hey, today I had my first day in the WS4SB Part 3 template. It was my max effort upper body. Here are my lifts:
Regular Bar Bench- 135lbs 3x5- not that much but its a start
Incline DB bench Press- 35lbs 2x18
Db Rows- 55lbs 4x12
Face pulls- 65lbs 4x10
Db shrugs- 55lbs 4x12
Db curls(standing)- 25 lbs 3x10
Couple things…not to disagre with those saying getting strong is important (because it is), i would concern yourself with learning techniques and other aspects of the game because no matter how much you bench press if you put your head across someones body in a tackle youre probably taking a little nap.
Also, i would put a little more pull elements into your program than you would for a normal program, nothing crazy, maybe just an extra exercise or two, but pull strength is quite important in rugby even though it might not seem so on the surface (wrapping in a tackle, poaching a ball, tucking the ball, pulling people off of rucks, etc)
anyway, good luck, and try not to shoot the boot
Which code? If it’s rugby union you’ll need a bit more endurance work as union doesn’t stop. For rugby league you can focus a little bit more on explosive power, as it’s a lot more stop-start.
These are generalisations, of course, but apart from basic strength and conditioning, every sport is different. I’d pity the soccer player who tried league, just as I’d pity the NFL/gridiron player who tried Australian Rules Football.
[quote]OTS1 wrote:
Good selection, I think.
Just remember:
Backs are geigh.
Run with the pack.
Also:
How do you shoot the boot if you’re 16?[/quote]
Well put, and 16 isn’t too young to shoot the boot.
While I didn’t enjoy playing in the backs last season, this attitude is fucking stupid.
One of the thing about rugby I find hiliarious is the fatass guy who gets out out of breath on his way to the fast food joint but brags a lot about how he’s a fantastic prop for this or that team and is wanted by all the other teams.