[quote]Peter Orban wrote:
GetSwole wrote:
My prediction is $49.99
Mine is $39.99 for 600g or 20 servings. Dosage will most likely be 2 servings for the average trained male.[/quote]
Your price is possible. But I’d say your total, if your taking recommended dosage, will be roughly ~15 servings. But then, I still think it’ll be a little higher than $39.
I dont get it. Learn to wait people. Half of you arnt even going to buy it when it comes out. Whats with all the statements of “it obviously functions by…”? fuck off. You don’t know that, your speculating. Particulary when its been stated the supplement is a blend of all kinds of shit. Experts on a product you havnt even seen yet.
You have got to love the advertising by rumormill methods. Not only are they effective, the people involved hype themselves up. You can also track the hype to determine if you need to tease some more. Then strangely, all the issues raised in the forum with what has allready been stated can be directly delt with in the article long product summary later. Providing a stonger, more effective add. In a nice question/answer format ofcourse.
Then the people who worked themselves up and have allready taken a stance on the product, are in a subconcious way, going to slant their review to defend their previous stance. (its a mental thing, not a concious choice).
don’t get me wrong. If its good. I might buy some for the times when i have specific goals that i need to achieve. But i think everyone should stop being super-supplement-horny-teens, grow up and approach the issue as mature adults. With a sense of skepticism.
[quote]The geek wrote:
I dont get it. Learn to wait people. Half of you arnt even going to buy it when it comes out. Whats with all the statements of “it obviously functions by…”? fuck off. You don’t know that, your speculating. Particulary when its been stated the supplement is a blend of all kinds of shit. Experts on a product you havnt even seen yet.
You have got to love the advertising by rumormill methods. Not only are they effective, the people involved hype themselves up. You can also track the hype to determine if you need to tease some more. Then strangely, all the issues raised in the forum with what has allready been stated can be directly delt with in the article long product summary later. Providing a stonger, more effective add. In a nice question/answer format ofcourse.
Then the people who worked themselves up and have allready taken a stance on the product, are in a subconcious way, going to slant their review to defend their previous stance. (its a mental thing, not a concious choice).
don’t get me wrong. If its good. I might buy some for the times when i have specific goals that i need to achieve. But i think everyone should stop being super-supplement-horny-teens, grow up and approach the issue as mature adults. With a sense of skepticism.[/quote]
shut up geek, 
I do somewhat agree though.
lol. i just like to rant. Now that ive bitched about speculation. I am going to speculate about the products market, and if i am going to need it. Which i think is fair.
I am very curious to see what it turns out to be. Despite the price tag and “proffessional athlete” claims i am sure there is actually a very large market for it. The endurance athletes. Marathon runners, cyclists, competitive mountains climbers. People that have a particulary grueling tasks to perform once, on one day.
I mean lets face it, i can remain hydrated in my weights room, its only 45 minutes of activity. I am not running anywhere. I have a place to put a glass of water/Surge. I doubt dehydration is really going to effect me. Even without advanced carbohydrate/fibre thingies.
I don’t think it’s intended for hydration, rather for increased work capacity
there is no discussion revolving around hydration between users. Which is part of my above point. What it does has been stated outright.
From Tim Patterson:
"TP: They give rice oligosaccharides to dehydration victims to re-hydrate them. It’s so incredibly soothing to the gut; it pulls water into the right tissues. It’s a great, great, carbohydrate. In fact, we have a blend of two �?? for lack of a better word, sugars �?? that constitute the first complexed carbohydrate that’s actually anabolic. "
…
"TP: No, really. We’re finding people who go out on grueling bike rides, endurance athletes, high-energy-expending athletes, come back at the same weight or even heavier than what they started out!These guys are not losing water weight. And they’re building muscle even though they’re hardcore endurance athletes. It’s remarkable.
We took a sugar called platinose and rice oligodextrn and mixed them together in a certain ratio, and these guys go out and work out for two or three hours in the hot sun, and come back heavier than when they went out and that’s never been done before."
While there is more too it these fibres were chosen for their hydration effects. But its a blend of stuff. So i can’t speculate too far. That would just be guessing. I only know what tp said, That’s all i am going to believe until it comes out.
I never really got that “They came back heavier” statement… Were they drinking water during the bike ride?
Because if not I can fathom how they would leave, ride a bike, and come back with extra weight. Especially factoring in sweating and insensible water loss (the water you lose breathing).
I bet it contains a massive amount of Ribose.
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
I don’t think it’s intended for hydration, rather for increased work capacity[/quote]
These two are directly related.
[quote]The geek wrote:
I dont get it. Learn to wait people. Half of you arnt even going to buy it when it comes out. Whats with all the statements of “it obviously functions by…”? fuck off. You don’t know that, your speculating. Particulary when its been stated the supplement is a blend of all kinds of shit. Experts on a product you havnt even seen yet.
You have got to love the advertising by rumormill methods. Not only are they effective, the people involved hype themselves up. You can also track the hype to determine if you need to tease some more. Then strangely, all the issues raised in the forum with what has allready been stated can be directly delt with in the article long product summary later. Providing a stonger, more effective add. In a nice question/answer format ofcourse.
Then the people who worked themselves up and have allready taken a stance on the product, are in a subconcious way, going to slant their review to defend their previous stance. (its a mental thing, not a concious choice).
don’t get me wrong. If its good. I might buy some for the times when i have specific goals that i need to achieve. But i think everyone should stop being super-supplement-horny-teens, grow up and approach the issue as mature adults. With a sense of skepticism.[/quote]
So when did you get your degree in marketing?
I think we are approaching the topic in a mature manner. I have yet to see a “OMG, Surgz worksout gas totally made my dick bigger and I can rip stop signs out of the ground lolz” post.
We here at T-Nation have a problem with waiting.
[quote]analog_kid wrote:
We here at T-Nation have a problem with waiting.
[/quote]
Especially me…
I know the Biotest gods will bless us soon and bestow upon our countenance a most holy and wonderful Surge product.
…At least I hope soon.
I’m still waiting for the ultimate Biotest product:
"Anaconda Surge Carbolin 19-69 Euphoria Magus-10 Biblechins: The ULTIMATE Workout Methamphetemine Protein NO Destroyer!
Fuck the world, you gotta lift! Made from distilled squats of Dave Tate and the milk of Ur the World Cow, this new protein/energy supplement will augment your puny human genetics with super-solider serum of doom, improving protein turnover, lipid metabolization, and erectile function! Start a workout weighing 130lbs, end it at 300! Chuck Norris!
Warning: May cause the ‘getting too big’ effect. Happens overnight"
And I swear to the Good Lord Jesus, I will put $200 on a month’s supply. Whatever it is. Vash = Biotest Whore.
[quote]Vash wrote:
I’m still waiting for the ultimate Biotest product:
"Anaconda Surge Carbolin 19-69 Euphoria Magus-10 Biblechins: The ULTIMATE Workout Methamphetemine Protein NO Destroyer!
Fuck the world, you gotta lift! Made from distilled squats of Dave Tate and the milk of Ur the World Cow, this new protein/energy supplement will augment your puny human genetics with super-solider serum of doom, improving protein turnover, lipid metabolization, and erectile function! Start a workout weighing 130lbs, end it at 300! Chuck Norris!
Warning: May cause the ‘getting too big’ effect. Happens overnight"
And I swear to the Good Lord Jesus, I will put $200 on a month’s supply. Whatever it is. Vash = Biotest Whore.[/quote]
LMAO!
Bravo, good sir, this was genius.
Ur the World Cow! HAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAA!!! again, bravo!!!
Also, Vash! Nice avatar. Zodd the Immortal!
[quote]Vash wrote:
I’m still waiting for the ultimate Biotest product:
"Anaconda Surge Carbolin 19-69 Euphoria Magus-10 Biblechins: The ULTIMATE Workout Methamphetemine Protein NO Destroyer!
Fuck the world, you gotta lift! Made from distilled squats of Dave Tate and the milk of Ur the World Cow, this new protein/energy supplement will augment your puny human genetics with super-solider serum of doom, improving protein turnover, lipid metabolization, and erectile function! Start a workout weighing 130lbs, end it at 300! Chuck Norris!
Warning: May cause the ‘getting too big’ effect. Happens overnight"
And I swear to the Good Lord Jesus, I will put $200 on a month’s supply. Whatever it is. Vash = Biotest Whore.[/quote]
When will this be available for purchase please?
You forgot Z-AlphaBeta MyoAndroStatinolin-19-7-12 ZMARox: Nighttime Formula
[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
You forgot Z-AlphaBeta MyoAndroStatinolin-19-7-12 ZMARox: Nighttime Formula[/quote]
This is the one where you workout while you sleep, put on about 10 lbs of lean muscle a night correct?
I am also amazed at all the people griping about the price and the product when it hasn’t even been released yet. If you don’t want to buy it when it comes out, then don’t!
Easy enough as all products Biotest produces aren’t for everyone. As with anything in life quit worrying about what is coming and work with what you have right now and go get it.
[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
I never really got that “They came back heavier” statement… Were they drinking water during the bike ride?
Because if not I can fathom how they would leave, ride a bike, and come back with extra weight. Especially factoring in sweating and insensible water loss (the water you lose breathing).[/quote]
They had to have been drinking water and it must have helped them retain it.
Some info on the palatinose sugar (which was mentioned in the article) can be found at PALATINIT website. This sugar looks really ‘high-tech.’ The nutritional benefits look really promising. Tooth-friendly too. lol Looks like Biotest will score with this one too.
Any chance of this coming out this year?