New Slipknot CD

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[quote]celibrate2047 wrote:
The problem I have with a lot of death metal is I can’t discern a lot of their songs from their other songs. I guess this just shows the huge difference in tastes of music we all have.

I listen to death metal and all I hear is one continuous double bass pedal and a bunch of gutteral roaring into the music.[/quote]

Reminds me of that Austrian Death Machine CD… there’s a track called “All the songs sound the same” in which Arnold Schwarzenegger (yes, the gummy-bear of Candycornia - he’s the vocalist of the band) explains that all the songs sound the same because they’re all equally broo-tall.

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they’ll never be as good for me as they used to back in the iowa album

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[quote]pookie wrote:
celibrate2047 wrote:
The problem I have with a lot of death metal is I can’t discern a lot of their songs from their other songs. I guess this just shows the huge difference in tastes of music we all have.

I listen to death metal and all I hear is one continuous double bass pedal and a bunch of gutteral roaring into the music.

Reminds me of that Austrian Death Machine CD… there’s a track called “All the songs sound the same” in which Arnold Schwarzenegger (yes, the gummy-bear of Candycornia - he’s the vocalist of the band) explains that all the songs sound the same because they’re all equally broo-tall.
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I love that CD, by the way!

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[quote]Big_Boss wrote:

There’s a difference?? Besides…stop “dissing” ahem trolling on every music thread thats not about Death Metal.[/quote]

Since you’re in charge around here…

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so what’s going on in this thread?

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I think people are bitching about something internet-related.

The CD isn’t as good as their other stuff; yes.

Is it good? IMO…yes.

Is death metal good? IMO…yes; some of it.

Do I want to hear some dude with a bad cold vomiting on a microphone with some sick drums and guitars in the background? No. Most of the metal I’ve heard really gets me pumped up because of the drumming and guitar(ing?) but as soon as the ‘singer’ starts in, I have to change it b/c its retarded. So much talent in these band are wasted because the singer sucks.

I do agree on the point that the ‘filler songs’ in the album need to go.

Also, while slipknot DOES have alot of “zit poping teens” as fans…I grew up on them and I’m sure (as can be seen by this thread) that alot of other non-teens really dig them still to this day.

But who am I to interject in such a thread? Continue bitchin and flaming…

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Has anyone here listened to Bulldozer? Beats the hell out of Slipknot

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[quote]B rocK wrote:
I think people are bitching about something internet-related.

The CD isn’t as good as their other stuff; yes.

Is it good? IMO…yes.

Is death metal good? IMO…yes; some of it.

Do I want to hear some dude with a bad cold vomiting on a microphone with some sick drums and guitars in the background? No. Most of the metal I’ve heard really gets me pumped up because of the drumming and guitar(ing?) but as soon as the ‘singer’ starts in, I have to change it b/c its retarded. So much talent in these band are wasted because the singer sucks.

I do agree on the point that the ‘filler songs’ in the album need to go.

Also, while slipknot DOES have alot of “zit poping teens” as fans…I grew up on them and I’m sure (as can be seen by this thread) that alot of other non-teens really dig them still to this day.

But who am I to interject in such a thread? Continue bitchin and flaming…[/quote]

So why are people bringing death metal into slipknot thread?

I do the gutterals in my tech death band so I guess I suck haha.

Let the nu metal kiddos have their thread.

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[quote]detazathoth wrote:
I do the gutterals in my tech death band so I guess I suck haha.[/quote]

Maybe you could explain what the idea behind that vocal “style” is?

I think it sounds, well, retarded. There’s a lot of pretty good music I simply can’t listen too because those vocals annoy me to no end.

My theory is that a lot of people who fancy themselves metal “singers” have the musical ability of your average American Idol contestant… the guttural growling hides that fact, since anyone can do it with equal success. Hell, when I play with my kid, that’s how the T-Rex speaks.

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[quote]pookie wrote:

Maybe you could explain what the idea behind that vocal “style” is?

I think it sounds, well, retarded. There’s a lot of pretty good music I simply can’t listen too because those vocals annoy me to no end.

My theory is that a lot of people who fancy themselves metal “singers” have the musical ability of your average American Idol contestant… the guttural growling hides that fact, since anyone can do it with equal success. Hell, when I play with my kid, that’s how the T-Rex speaks.
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How do you stand listening to Corey Taylor rapping and then hawking up loogey’s if you can’t stand guttural growling?

Ahh screw it…I’m done with this thread. I would urge all of you to please desist with listening to ShitKrap and find some real metal, not mainstream Nu Metal.

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[quote]detazathoth wrote:
B rocK wrote:
I think people are bitching about something internet-related.

The CD isn’t as good as their other stuff; yes.

Is it good? IMO…yes.

Is death metal good? IMO…yes; some of it.

Do I want to hear some dude with a bad cold vomiting on a microphone with some sick drums and guitars in the background? No. Most of the metal I’ve heard really gets me pumped up because of the drumming and guitar(ing?) but as soon as the ‘singer’ starts in, I have to change it b/c its retarded. So much talent in these band are wasted because the singer sucks.

I do agree on the point that the ‘filler songs’ in the album need to go.

Also, while slipknot DOES have alot of “zit poping teens” as fans…I grew up on them and I’m sure (as can be seen by this thread) that alot of other non-teens really dig them still to this day.

But who am I to interject in such a thread? Continue bitchin and flaming…

So why are people bringing death metal into slipknot thread?

I do the gutterals in my tech death band so I guess I suck haha.

Let the nu metal kiddos have their thread. [/quote]

any vids?

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[quote]pookie wrote:
detazathoth wrote:
I do the gutterals in my tech death band so I guess I suck haha.

Maybe you could explain what the idea behind that vocal “style” is?

I think it sounds, well, retarded. There’s a lot of pretty good music I simply can’t listen too because those vocals annoy me to no end.

My theory is that a lot of people who fancy themselves metal “singers” have the musical ability of your average American Idol contestant… the guttural growling hides that fact, since anyone can do it with equal success. Hell, when I play with my kid, that’s how the T-Rex speaks.
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http://www.sfbg.com/38/42/art_music_metal.html

That pretty much sums it up.

Oh, and a band plug:

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Yes, good idea - instead of debate your point of view, get defensive and /quit the thread. U r a winrar frend.

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On the topic of new music, has anyone heard the new Linkin Park song “QWERTY (Behind your lies)” I believe its called. I like it a lot sounds good for lifting anyway.

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[quote]gatesoftanhauser wrote:

How do you stand listening to Corey Taylor rapping and then hawking up loogey’s if you can’t stand guttural growling?

Ahh screw it…I’m done with this thread. I would urge all of you to please desist with listening to ShitKrap and find some real metal, not mainstream Nu Metal.
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I don’t mind Taylor and his style of singing. Kinda’ like I can get into Sepultura, Soulfly, Five Finger Death Punch, and even some Morbid Angel because I can understand what they’re saying. Much more into the realm of death metal and to me it just sounds like barking and growling and flurry of double bass pedal that makes me feel like I’m about to go into an epileptic seizure.

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[quote]gatesoftanhauser wrote:
How do you stand listening to Corey Taylor rapping and then hawking up loogey’s if you can’t stand guttural growling? [/quote]

…because he’s not doing “Cookie Monster” vocals (as that other article calls them).

I don’t mind if someone’s screaming the lyrics or sounds really angry - metal is generally aggressive/angry - but at least those are “normal” ways of using one’s voice. Cookie Monster vocals, on the other hand, are never heard outside of death metal.

It’s as contrived as singing in a super-high pitched chipmunk voice.

Do you actually listen to music, or do you just label it? You seem quite proud of the fact that you don’t enjoy “mainstream nu-metal” (based apparently more on the band’s name/image/commercial success rather than on the music) but only “real metal” even if it sounds like shit.

Me, I use two labels: Music I like; music I don’t like.

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[quote]detazathoth wrote:
pookie wrote:
detazathoth wrote:
I do the gutterals in my tech death band so I guess I suck haha.

Maybe you could explain what the idea behind that vocal “style” is?

I think it sounds, well, retarded. There’s a lot of pretty good music I simply can’t listen too because those vocals annoy me to no end.

My theory is that a lot of people who fancy themselves metal “singers” have the musical ability of your average American Idol contestant… the guttural growling hides that fact, since anyone can do it with equal success. Hell, when I play with my kid, that’s how the T-Rex speaks.

http://www.sfbg.com/38/42/art_music_metal.html

That pretty much sums it up.

Oh, and a band plug:

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Thanks for the link discussing the vocals. I’ll listen to the link later (at work now).

I’m kind of with pookie and celebrate2047, I just don’t get it. But I’m always open to listening to new music, never know when you’ll find something you like.

For example, I don’t know what genre it is, but Jim Wendler put up a link to a band, 16, and I thought it was good.

As for Slipknot, I like some of their stuff, but I likely won’t buy the CD. I’ll likely listen to the samples though.

Just to show how completely messed up my music preferences are, I also listen to:
70’s and 80’s hard rock/metal (everything from Kiss to Judas Priet, Black Sabbath, etc…);
country music (new and “my wife left me and my dog ran away”);
rap (some new, though I prefer the older rap ie. Public Enemy);
Celtic Music (if you’ve never heard Christy Moore or Paul Brady, check them out);
and others I can’t think of right now.

Why limit myself?

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[quote]pookie wrote:
gatesoftanhauser wrote:
How do you stand listening to Corey Taylor rapping and then hawking up loogey’s if you can’t stand guttural growling?

…because he’s not doing “Cookie Monster” vocals (as that other article calls them).

I don’t mind if someone’s screaming the lyrics or sounds really angry - metal is generally aggressive/angry - but at least those are “normal” ways of using one’s voice. Cookie Monster vocals, on the other hand, are never heard outside of death metal.

It’s as contrived as singing in a super-high pitched chipmunk voice.

Ahh screw it…I’m done with this thread. I would urge all of you to please desist with listening to ShitKrap and find some real metal, not mainstream Nu Metal.

Do you actually listen to music, or do you just label it? You seem quite proud of the fact that you don’t enjoy “mainstream nu-metal” (based apparently more on the band’s name/image/commercial success rather than on the music) but only “real metal” even if it sounds like shit.

Me, I use two labels: Music I like; music I don’t like.

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Ah pookie, always cutting thru the bullshit and getting straight to the point. I use those two labels as well whether it’s classic rock, death metal, rap, disco, what the fuck ever it is it always boils down to those two labels.

Gates of confusion dude you seem to be on more of a crusade instead of just enjoying the kind of music you like.

D

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Why the hell was death metal brought up in a slipknot thread, that’s what I’d like to know.

Neither are close to each other. sigh

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If one wanted to play the trump card and go old school metal on someone, even the cookie monster singing that seems to be the norm in “todays” metal wouldn’t really have much of a leg to stand on, by comparison.

Assuming someone wanted to go that route.

I’m of the opinion of Pookie in labeling music 2 ways, like/don’t like.