I have a question and I feel like you mite be the rite person to ask. Do you think at the age of 32 or 33 I will have trouble having kids even if I make sure I have HCG in my protocol??
Has anyone ever heard of tatto ink throwing off your endocrine system. I was thinking about getting some tattoos and was not sure how that May effect my body with me being on TRT
Initial consultation, physical examination, labs and follow-up office visit to review results and consider options are $395.
As a concierge practice, we have monthly fees which include prescriptions, follow-up labs and follow-up office visits. For most, those range from $90-120 per month and those are guys on testosterone. If using thyroid, peptides, hCG
nandrolone, etc., there would be an additional expense not included in a monthly plan.
There are cheaper practices and also more expensive.
A thread logging your progress/journey
@highpull where is it located ?
I think this something I need to seriously consider. Here my issue that Iām having letās say Iām logging my protocol rite and in the begging of the protocol everything is going smooth and I start to feel good but then with in 3 months everything starts to reverse I donāt know how to identify what happened and thatās the proablem that I run into and why sometimes I donāt bother making a journal about stuff because I never know what went wrong
When you do a log people know what youāve done, what youāre doing and where you are so they can give you advice based off more than a 2 sentence post that likely leaves out lots of important info. Plus with a lot people get invested in it and youāll have more quality people giving you advice.
If this is true then this is something I honestly need todo because it seems like I mite get the most help this way. Do you know where I can find a couple of examples of some?
I found your log
thanks Iāll read over it so mayb Iāll have an idea on how to start mine
Just search Log in the search function
Go to the Training Log section, click the New Topic button.

Thank you guys. I have the lab results that came in for my protocol. I am going to post them later this afternoon.
So Iām getting ready to start my own experiment. So rmeber when I asked you when you want to manipulate your freeT which med do you change either the Testosterone or the HCG and you said that you change the testosterone and leave the HCG stable. My question is how did you figure out the dose of HCG you wanted to use and stay at that dose? Like rite now your doing 1056 a week like how did you come up with that?
Here are my first lab results for my protocol ! Looks Like the clomid did not work becuase I have been on it for well over a month now
Looks like youāre cured to me. Another win for clomid
That LH is on clomid. No testosterone injection?
Sorry for the delay in response, been on vacation for a week.
I have an advanced degree in physiology and dose-response experimentation is a basic concept they teach us, even in undergraduate studies. Iāve also worked in clinical research for 19 years, so again this a basic concept. Donāt feel you need to get to this level of understanding or detailed experimentation. One of my basic philosophies in TRT that I try to impart on guys is that you need to keep it simple to make it sustainable.
The basic concept you should take home is that (in my opinion) you should start at a reasonable dose, which I define as about 100 mg/week with an injection protocol of at least twice per week (I prefer the E3D protocol). See what you numbers are in about 6 weeks and how you feel. At that point, increase the dose by about 20% (i.e. to about 120 mg/week) for 6 weeks and again retest and assess how you feel.
Continue this approach until your prior symptoms are abated to your satisfaction and/or your numbers reach a stopping point. For me, the stopping point is when my free T exceeds the 100th percentile of a 20-30 year old guy. It is my opinion that anything exceeding that threshold is anabolic steroid use of testosterone. yes, you may feel better exceeding that threshold dose, but it is because you can recover faster from workouts, but that is not the intent of medically necessary testosterone replacement therapy. Others here will argue that point, but in the end, you have to decide on your own approach. None of use, even the so called āexpertsā have the corner on the truth.
Keep in mind that there is little published on the use of HCG in men to restore testicular function while being on TRT. This is all I could find.
Their basic experiment was to measure Intratesticular Testesterone Levels (ITT) in men before and after TRT. and then they calculated the decrease in ITT levels due to TRT (a measure of the negative feedback loop regulating testicular function). They observed nearly a 100% reduction of ITT levels.
They then added in various doses of HCG and measured the improvement in ITT levels. This is a classic dose-response study. At around 420 IU/week, there was approximately a 25% reduction in ITT compared to baseline values. At about 900 IU per week of HCG, there was about a 10% reduction of ITT values compared to baseline values. At about 1750 IU of HCG per week, the ITT values exceeded base line by about 20%. When you connect the dots, you see that the lines cross the 0% reduction (i.e., return to normal baseline values) at around 1000 IU per week.
I chose 1050 IU per week, because it fits nicely into my E3D TRT protocol by injecting 450 IU E3d.
You also have to keep in mind that I have been on TRT for well over 8 years and it took several years for me to get it right. I feel that Dr. G was very helpful in putting me on the right path, but his philosophy is more conservative than mine. I understand that he needs to be aware of his professional standing in the medical community and not appearing to be an AAS pusher.
For me, the ticket to where I am now was to keep my PCP informed of what Dr. G was doing and she supplemented his labs with her own (all paid for by my insurance). After about 3 years, she became comfortable enough with the protocol to let me persuade her to take over medication management to help bring the cost down.
She is comfortable with annual assessments (labs) of the protocol at my annual check up. This gave me the space to explore refinements of the protocol by using supplemental T that i purchase from a reputable overseas supplier. So, for the majority of the year, I use my optimized protocol, and then for the annual labs, I go though a 4 week return to Dr. G protocol so that she sees the numbers she is comfortable with. I can live with 1 month of lower than optimized T levels.
