Ive read everything possible on sustanon because Ive been using it. It should be dosed daily or every other day, prop has a half life between 25 and 40 hours in different people(nobody knows exactly)
and that is exactly what I was thinking because I usually feel a lot better on daily injections or at most every other day injections but he mentions something about giving it to me in pulsations im not sure what that means.
I guess he means that natural t is produced in pulsatations, but when a man is on TRT most guys feel better when they are on more steady levels
And I get this idea for the blend where it is coming from, but for most guys it wouldnt work in practice
but have you ever heard of someone taking Testosterone and clomid at the same time?
i have but in my humble opinion this is an absurd combo.
For first and foremost clomid tends to make guys feel bad at some point, some suspect due to blocking of the estrogen receptors. And that alone tends to diminish the biggest benefit of t therapy
Now im just lost what todo I just emailed him and he wants me to stay on this for a little bit I guess because I just a started it last week smh
I dont know man, but Ive seen all kinds of absurd things doctors are doing in regards to TRT. Some ask their patients to stop take a break and all kinds of bulshit like that.
The practice shows the best way to preserve fertility on TRT is taking HCG and even that does not work well for many guys. But clomid sounds awful.
Clomidâs best usage in men is for short term.
Yes, that answers my question. If I had to guess, and itâs only a guess based on what Iâve been seeing about hcg, is that you may be one who canât tolerate hcg for a long time.
Then tell me which part of what I said is inaccurate.
This is very high dose if done daily. I would suggest you try 100 ui, this is what I found that works best for me.
Donât mean to interject myself in your conversation with hardartery, but, with the possible exception of the use of clomid instead of HCG, itâs not a bad starting protocol at all. I was on it my first 3 years and it was a God sent. To say that tt changed my life would be an understatement. I suspect you are seeing the same doc I started out with, or at least someone trained by him. You live in the LA area?
I would describe it as a good starting protocol. I would encourage you to investigate whether the dose is optimal. For me, I needed to bump up the dose to closer to 125 mg/week to get to a more optimized state.
Also, I feel that there was no advantage to the blended T over pure T-cyp. I think itâs just a gimmick to be able to charge more for a âuniqueâ hormone blend. Iâve been on pure T-cyp now for for going on 5 years and it works just fine for me, no better, no worse than the blended stuff and a lot less expensive at my local pharmacy.
As for clomid, I reserve judgement. I did not like how it made me feel. Not sure if it actually worked to enhance LH production. Iâm very interested in following your labs if you continue with the treatment.
Sorry to hear about the night sweats. I had them last year when I had an acute prostate infection. No fun at all.
Regarding pulsations of T, I know of absolutely no research at all that there is down regulations of T receptors anywhere in the body with. Never that less, you will still have ups and downs with T levels on an E3D protocol with T-cyp. See the graph below for theroretical T release.
I never had them with the blended T. Perhaps itâs the clomid. I did not have that reaction with clomid, but rather more like Low T symptoms (lack of focus, energy, poor erections, and overall âstrangeâ feeling that;s hard to describe.
At 93 mg/week of blended T (E3D protocol) - your protocol - my low T symptoms were much improved. In general, they were typical symptoms, however âbrain fogâ was the worse and is what drove me to seek treatment. other symptoms included: Low energy, poor erections, low libido, and this buzzing feeling in my head thatâs difficult to describe.
At 125 mg in my dose-response experiment, I could not discern any remaining Low T symptoms.
At 140 to about 160 mg I did feel âbetterâ because I found that I could push myself in the gym because I recovered faster. Per prior discussions, i consider this âperformance enhancementâ and not TRT. Donât really wish to debate the subject, itâs my opinion. Take it or leave it.
At doses above 160 mg, I began to feel anxiety and some heart palpitations. Gym performance was better, but the side-effects were of concern to me. Also, I have difficulty controlling red blood cell production at higher doses and it made regular blood donations a nacessity.
@youthful55guy do you take any dhea or preg?
This could possibly be your optimal T amount, to make you feel the best. Tossing it aside because you think itâs âperformance enhancementâ is your choice. I really donât want to debate this with you, so take my advice or leave it. You asked for help. Donât ask for help if youâre not open to the answers youâll hear.
Sorry, been running all day. Clomid works by signalling the feedback loop that you need more E2, which is produced by aromatising testosterone, so the side effect is increased test production. However, if you are taking testosterone, the feedback loop shuts off. So, best case scenario it does nothing at all. It might signal your body to aromatise more, it might just give you unwanted sides with no benefits (Including possible permanent vision damage).
Yes, both. 30mg DHEA and 50mg Prenenolone.
When exactly did I ask for your help?
I didnât say that you asked specifically for MY help.
But, you were begging for someone to help you when you said this:
âBut i do feel better at 140mg than 125mg, I believe this is mostly because it helps me recover better from my workouts, which I conclude is bordering on anabolic steroid use, not TRT.â
You really canât say something that void of logic and common sense, and expect nobody to correct you on it.
You keep making things up in your head. First you implied that I said that testosterone was not an anabolic hormone, quoting that same line:
âI hate to break it to you, but testosterone IS an anabolic steroid.â
Now you somehow derive out of that statement I made that Iâm âbegging for helpâ. I think youâre the person that needs help, but youâre not going to get that kind of help in this forum.