[quote]Dave.F wrote:
No I cant find any but I read about it in a magazine a chapters last night I think it was “road and Track” Anyway’s from what I read they keep everything basically the same bump horsepower to 530 and torque to 520 the car’s weight drops by around 180lbs through the use of carbon fiber Its sposed to go on sale in jepan in december…[/quote]
I like how they always make a supercar and then a few months later, release a slightly lighter, slightly more powerful version for more money.
[quote]Dave.F wrote:
Just throwing this out there Its my favorite car and was wondering what other car junkies are around T-Nation?
Anyone seen the latest producting Nissan GT-R Its new to the states and canada for 2009! Its the latest generation of the previouse Tuner Dream Car the Nissan Skiline, Which was only offered in japan and costed a fortune to ship over here and when you did get it here you still had your steering weel on the oposite side! But now they make them in north america
This Car is just CRAZY its engine is hand made in a Hospital Grade Clean Room and everycar has parts that will only work with its specific engine and cant be swaped!
Anyways the cars got 480 brake horspower and almost 500lbs feet of torque it does 0-60 in 3.5 seconds and the best part…it only cost like 70G’s and it rostes Lambos andferary’s and spits them out for fun and these cars cost 3-4 times more Im just waiting for the Spec V that was anounced and will be available hopefully in canada and the US in 2010 its said to bost 530 horses with more torque and its a couple hundred pounds lighter…
Anyways just throwing that out there unfortunatly Im a University student and am a little shy of 70g’s I have to put up with the 08 accord coupe my folks bought me (pix in my profile) Hopefully I’l get my hands on one by 2010!
All I know is I want one. This thing is the best bang for your buck and most likely more reliable than Ferrari and Lambo. In Canada Nissan GT-R MSRP is $81,900 compared to $69,850 in US. Sadly proving once again that TKO’s 18% Rule still applies.
OP, how do you think GT-R would fare in the Newfoundland’s Targa Race?
But targa goes by class for example Front weel drive, all weel drive, front engine, 4 cylinder class etc. Ive seen the course ran the last 4 years the porsche 911 always fairs well as does the Subaru STI but Trust me when I say that GT-R Would set record times!
[quote]Artem wrote:
Dave.F wrote:
No I cant find any but I read about it in a magazine a chapters last night I think it was “road and Track” Anyway’s from what I read they keep everything basically the same bump horsepower to 530 and torque to 520 the car’s weight drops by around 180lbs through the use of carbon fiber Its sposed to go on sale in jepan in december…
I like how they always make a supercar and then a few months later, release a slightly lighter, slightly more powerful version for more money.[/quote]
I know they always do that…a new supercar can be just on the market for like 4-5 month tops and they have a lighter quicker one alredy in the works for like 10-15K more! Eg, Back in 2000 when the Acura NSX had a slight redesign 5 months later they had an NSX Type R for 12K more it didnt get any bumb in power from its original 290 brake horsepower but it got 260lb’s lighter and sobe better breaks oh and I almost forgot TYPE R badges lol All for the rock botom price of 134K what a rip!
I hate the sports car purist bullshit. “Only a V6?” Do you know how much technology and know-how goes into refining an engine like that? Do you even understand physical law and vehicle weight as it affects performance?
Look at the Lotus Elise! Has like “only???” 180 hp, but guess what? The car weighs less than 2000 lbs. Do you have any idea what that means? You can generate enough G forces to shatter your own vertebrae.
The fact that it’s NOT a V10 or V12 and puts out that much power tells you how fucking amazing it is.
The Japanese have always known how to do things right. They just never had the balls to step up and take on the Italians and Germans, but their tech was always up to par.
[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
That car is wicked fast.
I hate the sports car purist bullshit. “Only a V6?” Do you know how much technology and know-how goes into refining an engine like that? Do you even understand physical law and vehicle weight as it affects performance?
Look at the Lotus Elise! Has like “only???” 180 hp, but guess what? The car weighs less than 2000 lbs. Do you have any idea what that means? You can generate enough G forces to shatter your own vertebrae.
The fact that it’s NOT a V10 or V12 and puts out that much power tells you how fucking amazing it is.
The Japanese have always known how to do things right. They just never had the balls to step up and take on the Italians and Germans, but their tech was always up to par.[/quote]
Dude I am with you 100% the fact that it can outperform those supercars is what makes it such an incredible car!
And, For the record the new 2008 lotus Elise sc puts out 232 brake horspower out of the same 1.8 toyota engine as last year but now its supercharged! 0-60 in 4.4s. I know exactly what you mean these cars are crazy! the engeneering is a thing of beauti!
[quote]Dave.F wrote:
Actually just for clarification the car is FAST in a strait line theres 4 cars I can think of that are faster and thats it Ferrari enzo, Bugati Veyron, Pugatti Zonda and I forget the last one but
The last car I forgot was a masserati mc12 which was converted from a RACE CAR to a street car[/quote]
Saleen S7 TT: 0-60 in 3.2 sec.
McLaren F1: 0-60 in 3.4 sec.
Koenigsegg CCR: 0-60 in 3.2 sec.
SSC Ultimate Aero TT: 0-60 in 2.78 sec. World’s fastest production car @ 257 mph.
It’s true though that all of these cars cost a fuckton more than 70 Gs. The Corvette ZR1 does 0-60 in roughly 3.5. I think they go for around $100,000.
Is the Mclaren F1 stree legal
Good call on those other cars I missed those
the corvette goes fast in a strait line but the minutes you take it into corners the GT-R will hold true and bring you out of it while the ZR1 will understreer like none other
It would be nice to see the saleen 27 TT, Koenigsegg CCR against the GT-R tho!
I LOVE the McLaren F1 rgo
Have you heard of the Arial Atom thats a sick little roadster as well it does 0-60 in like 2.9 buts its like a f-1 car open to the elements but its sick check out this video!
This fucking thing lapped the top gear track a couple tenths slower than the Ariel Atom:
Absolutely ridiculous, and easily the best bang for the buck in terms of performance compared to ANY other machine out there.
I think Jeremy Clarkson got it right when he said that Nissan re-invented the yardstick; the gtr will blow just about any other consumer car out of the water regardless of price.
[quote]Dave.F wrote:
Is the Mclaren F1 stree legal
Good call on those other cars I missed those
the corvette goes fast in a strait line but the minutes you take it into corners the GT-R will hold true and bring you out of it while the ZR1 will understreer like none other
It would be nice to see the saleen 27 TT, Koenigsegg CCR against the GT-R tho!
I LOVE the McLaren F1 rgo
Have you heard of the Arial Atom thats a sick little roadster as well it does 0-60 in like 2.9 buts its like a f-1 car open to the elements but its sick check out this video!
FYI there are videos on streetfire of the corvette zr1 lapping better times on the track than the GTR.
Also the GTR has all kinds of super gay electronics that monitor any time you beat on the car, redline it, etc…my friend is a fucking nissan junky and that really killed it for him.
The best bang for the buck car on the market is the current corvette z06, period.
I would take a slower car over the GTR as long as it looked better and had a v8,10 or 12 engine. I would never pay 70grand for a fucking v6.
If you REALLY want bang for the buck, look into getting a c5 vette (can be had for 15-20grand). Full exhaust, suspension, heads/cam + nitrous and call it a fucking day. Beast of a car, sexy as hell, and probably can do it all for under 25k.
[quote]ghost wrote:
This fucking thing lapped the top gear track a couple tenths slower than the Ariel Atom:
Absolutely ridiculous, and easily the best bang for the buck in terms of performance compared to ANY other machine out there.
I think Jeremy Clarkson got it right when he said that Nissan re-invented the yardstick; the gtr will blow just about any other consumer car out of the water regardless of price.
Goddamn I want one now. Someday…[/quote]
if i had 70k to blow i’d take the atom. way more fun. way more.
Good point made I do love that ariel atom but for a daily driver the gtr is the was to go! No way would I take any north american car over a GT-R I mean I know where your comming from josh86 but personally I like the imports there’s a video of a skyline R33 on Top Gear putting out 1000 horsepower its yellow its pretty sick! I Do however agree that there’s nuthing like driving a big beefy v8,v10 or v12 but what makes the GT-R so great is that it is only a v6 and its putting most supercars to shame!
[quote]Artem wrote:
On paper, it’s great, but it just doesn’t look, feel, or sound like a supercar to me. The engine may make 500 hp, but it’s still a V6.[/quote]
To me, a 500HP V6 is a better supercar engine than a 450HP V12.
[quote]undeadlift wrote:
Artem wrote:
On paper, it’s great, but it just doesn’t look, feel, or sound like a supercar to me. The engine may make 500 hp, but it’s still a V6.
To me, a 500HP V6 is a better supercar engine than a 450HP V12.[/quote]
Like weightlifting, “what’s better” is all relative and number of cylinders is only one variable. What’s the displacement (engine size)? Is the engine naturally aspirated or use force induction (turbos/superchargers)? What are the size of the turbos/superchargers? How much torque does the engine have? What’s the powerband (HP+Torque in relation to RPM) look like?
[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
undeadlift wrote:
Artem wrote:
On paper, it’s great, but it just doesn’t look, feel, or sound like a supercar to me. The engine may make 500 hp, but it’s still a V6.
To me, a 500HP V6 is a better supercar engine than a 450HP V12.
Like weightlifting, “what’s better” is all relative and number of cylinders is only one variable. What’s the displacement (engine size)? Is the engine naturally aspirated or use force induction (turbos/superchargers)? What are the size of the turbos/superchargers? How much torque does the engine have? What’s the powerband (HP+Torque in relation to RPM) look like? What’s the gear ratios in the transmission and final drive?
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Very true I never thought of a car before that way but it is a matter of preference! The GT-R is a Twin turbo with 2 different sized turbo’s A large on for the higher RMP range power and the smaller one to prefent turbo lag that is all to comon in turbo charged cars like the Lancer Evo and the Subaru STI! The Thing that the GT-R has going for it is the supercar performance without the supercar price tag I guess that at the end of the day. Thats what it is in its truest form!
PS Who else Hates the Fact that the New Subarus STI is only available in a hatch back??? that pretty stupid in my opinion
[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
undeadlift wrote:
Artem wrote:
On paper, it’s great, but it just doesn’t look, feel, or sound like a supercar to me. The engine may make 500 hp, but it’s still a V6.
To me, a 500HP V6 is a better supercar engine than a 450HP V12.
Like weightlifting, “what’s better” is all relative and number of cylinders is only one variable. What’s the displacement (engine size)? Is the engine naturally aspirated or use force induction (turbos/superchargers)? What are the size of the turbos/superchargers? How much torque does the engine have? What’s the powerband (HP+Torque in relation to RPM) look like? [/quote]
Yes, of course, but my point was that I wouldn’t look at the number of cylinders when judging a supercar engine’s performance. I wouldn’t say that a car doesn’t seem like a supercar just because it’s only a V6.
It seems like a supercar, but it just won’t have the same “feel” of a 12-cylinder car. I’m not arguing that it’s not as good or better than a lot of other cars performance-wise; the engine just doesn’t sound the same and it doesn’t have the same feel.
Oh, doesn’t the Veyron have 4 turbos in varying sizes to cover each RPM range? That’s pretty crazy.
[quote]Artem wrote:
It seems like a supercar, but it just won’t have the same “feel” of a 12-cylinder car. I’m not arguing that it’s not as good or better than a lot of other cars performance-wise; the engine just doesn’t sound the same and it doesn’t have the same feel.
Oh, doesn’t the Veyron have 4 turbos in varying sizes to cover each RPM range? That’s pretty crazy.[/quote]
Yeah. That must make one freaking large power band. But that doesn’t beat its 10 radiators.