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[quote]Nards wrote:
I still canāt think why The Hobbit needs three movies! GRRR!!![/quote]
Itās to do with Hollywoodās borderline superstitious obsession with trilogies: threeās the charm, good things come in threes, three is the magic number. [/quote]
Beginning ā Middle ā End.
The āfranchiseā mentality, on the other hand, thatās the one thatās got me stumped.[/quote]
Nolanās Batman was never conceived as a trilogy (Begins was supposed to be a self-contained movie: at the time , WB was still trying to recover from the critical mauling of Batman and Robin, so they gave Nolan complete creative freedom to do what he wanted. They had nothing to lose).
Also, while some movies work as three-parters, The Hobbit didnāt start out that way and certainly didnāt need to be a trilogy. The new Spider-Man is now a planned trilogy, even though there isnāt a script or a story in place (even Marc Webb said that they donāt know who the mystery guy at the end is going to be).
The more likely explanation is that thereās a sense of prestige around trilogies at the moment after LotR and Batman, and itās a marketing move to brand new movies as trilogies to suggest an epic engaging story is in store.
Franchises are just about churning out sequels until they have a flop. [/quote]
You donāt necessarily need a pre-concieved plan (though it helps) for future movies past the first one, Iām just trying to say that it works that way (assuming itās done well). When writing for the second movie, a writer would probably ask, āwell, where can we go from here?ā, and āhow do we tie all this upā for the third one.
The franchise notion though, like all the Bond movies before Casino Royale (which re-booted the series), is harder. What can you explore that hasnāt already been done?[/quote]
But then it doesnāt have to be a trilogy, either. Itās just one storytelling structure. There is no reason to make The Hobbit (for an example) a trilogy, other than it will be a trilogy. There was no reason for the Star Wars prequels to be a trilogyā¦other than that was what expected (in fact, what was done in eps 1-3 could easily have been done in two movies).
The move towards blockbuster trilogies instead of ongoing franchises only happened because audiences got jaded with sequels that tried to one-up what had come before. Itās the execs, not the writers who make the call on how many installments it takes to get a story told.
Now that Nolan has taken the unprecendented step of giving a major summer blockbuster franchise a finite end, every studio with a comic book property is moving towards trilogies (except Marvel)ā¦Monkey-see, monkey do. [/quote]
Marvel had the unique idea of focusing on bringing the entire Marvel world to the screen with crossover circumstances. That was a one in a million shot. They just happened to actually pull it off. Marvel would have died if Thor, Cap and the Avengers sucked.[/quote]
They also made excellent choices of directors (each suited to the characters they were tasked with bringing to the screen), threw in enough references to pique the interest of non-readers and whet the appetites of existing fans, and most importantly, managed to reference the ridiculous aspects of characters in a way that was still respectful.
Whedon cranked it up in Avengers, but it was there in Thor (godly pride comes before a fall) and Cap America (that costume).
Yes, WB have Batman, but they also have Superman Returns and Green Lantern. They also rejected Joss Whedonās Wonder Woman script and made the TV series instead.