Try and find RDS’ thread he made a while back after he had a hard time recovering after deca. I can’t remember the name of the thread.
Thanks guys…
Glimpses if my libido now and again…
Night and morning erections now and again as well…!
Going to wait it out a bit more…
The tool is working a bit better than few months back…!!
[quote]G0D123 wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]ztanzanite wrote:
Im pretty sure they are back to normal size… they are a bit sensative now… one had atrophied during cycle…
Can testes recovey over time with NO hcg?
I am not so concerned with mass retainment as I am with a eventual recovery…
Prior to cycle I had high libido and very strong erections…
No signs of age in this department…
Please if you are not knowledgeable in this area, please do not reply with " rely on cialis" … Or " time for hrt"
Proper recovey is the goal and is obtainable with sound advice…[/quote]
well… to be fair, you are in your 40’s… and you ran deca…
even if you never ran a cycle, you are getting older… did you expect to feel like a 20 year-old forever?
you kinda screwed yourself with what you did… you limited your options[/quote]
thats it there goes my patience ! you dumbest piece of shit all these steroids are meant to be used by old people !!
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Hey dumbfuck, OP is 40 and ran Deca for 20 weeks. 20 WEEKS!!! Once again you’ve insulted a senior respected member here. If OP has shutdown his HPTA which seems fairly obvious here. Age does factor in. You are still young and DUMB but you should know that recovering from anything takes longer the older you get. The worse the damage the longer it takes or the higher possibility it is unrepairable. It would be nice if OP could restart his HPTA but it is entirely possible that the length of the Deca cycle has made that an unrealistic goal. Maybe OP will get some function back but not as much as one would like.
OP One HPTA restart protocol is as follows:
2,500iu HCG EOD 16 days
150iu HMG EOD for 16 days
100mg CLOMID ED for 30 days (50 morning and evening)
20mg TAMOXIFEN ED for 45 days with taper after 45 days
You may want to try this or a variation of it. Do some research on HPTA restart.
Just out of curiosity was G0D123 possibly your original advisor?
Thank for the restart protocol…
No GOD wasn’t the advisor… No one on forum…
Ill keep you posted on recovery… Waiting on new bloods at the moment…
Thanks again…
hey fuckface ! my reply to Mr Walkaway was to this particular sentence
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
even if you never ran a cycle, you are getting older… did you expect to feel like a 20 year-old forever?
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when some one comes to tnation for help after fucking up real bad with bad guidance instead of helping, ppl were like your done man, your life is over, your never gonna have a boner in your life ! etc etc ,which would be worse than helping, sending him to depression. all i tried to do was give him hope and help him when no one was giving him a proper solution and asked him to go to a doctor instead of tagging along with others and saying “dude your fucked you are no longer a man hahahaha go kill yourself”
[quote]G0D123 wrote:
hey fuckface ! my reply to Mr Walkaway was to this particular sentence
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
even if you never ran a cycle, you are getting older… did you expect to feel like a 20 year-old forever?
[/quote]
when some one comes to tnation for help after fucking up real bad with bad guidance instead of helping, ppl were like your done man, your life is over, your never gonna have a boner in your life ! etc etc ,which would be worse than helping, sending him to depression. all i tried to do was give him hope and help him when no one was giving him a proper solution and asked him to go to a doctor instead of tagging along with others and saying “dude your fucked you are no longer a man hahahaha go kill yourself”
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You know what… You can’t understand what was written here. You can’t write or spell for that matter. WW did give him advice. Maybe you should have read that. What you’ve written above was by no means what WW meant by that. Although that really doesn’t matter. Your demeanor and your butting in on subjects that you know very little about is what matters. Maybe you just want to start trouble. Maybe you are a complete ass. Maybe you are just fucking retarded. I’m going with a combination of the three.
[quote]ztanzanite wrote:
Thank for the restart protocol…
No GOD wasn’t the advisor… No one on forum…
Ill keep you posted on recovery… Waiting on new bloods at the moment…
Thanks again…[/quote]
Sorry, the G0D comment was sarcasm. I’m pretty sure if the one that posts here was your adviser you’d be really screwed.
Please keep in mind you may not be able to recover full function. If not then TRT and cialis will be a real possibility. Which isn’t a bad option in my mind. Many people here would happily accept this as a permanent solution. Honestly it means that your doctor starts giving you a prescription for some of your steroids. TRT and Cialis/Viagra are not looked down upon in these parts.
I appreciate it GOD…
Thanks for the words…
I’m reading it all…
Thanks again to you all…
Ill keep the thread posted…
Talking with you know who now…
[quote]G0D123 wrote:
hey fuckface ! my reply to Mr Walkaway was to this particular sentence
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
even if you never ran a cycle, you are getting older… did you expect to feel like a 20 year-old forever?
[/quote]
when some one comes to tnation for help after fucking up real bad with bad guidance instead of helping, ppl were like your done man, your life is over, your never gonna have a boner in your life ! etc etc ,which would be worse than helping, sending him to depression. all i tried to do was give him hope and help him when no one was giving him a proper solution and asked him to go to a doctor instead of tagging along with others and saying “dude your fucked you are no longer a man hahahaha go kill yourself”
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no one ever said…
…any of that…
Look into triptorelin?
Update…:
new bloods today after two weeks sinse last bloods…
Test level still falling ( after 5 months…? WTF)
Test: 376
However, LH level has more than doubled in two weeks…(naturally, no serms)
Lh: 7.0 ( from 3.2)
To explain a bit more : I have done five bloods sinse gear was stopped and over 5 months and the test levels have been falling for the entire time… Is it possible that the deca is still showing on the test because it is a derivative of testosterone?
As well, I can get erection function, but they are weak and flexible… I’ve read many posts where guys are saying they experienced this very thing for quite some time ( many up to and past a year).
Anybody have this experience?
Night erections are are coming around now and again?
Hoping this is a good sign…
Any experiences similair are welcome…
Thanks again guys for all the good info…
This website is becoming nothing but word brawls.
Lh and test normally fall following serms. But an LH of 7 is just fine. The problem is primary hypogonadism. Only solution, hcg or time.
To OP, If i were you i would run some cialis or viagra and just live with the issues at hand for a couple of months, it will eventually recover back to normal my estimate would be 4-5 months and you’ll be fine
Mennotinblack is right get some triptorelin, i would at such a price
ok good luck
[quote]Mennotinblack wrote:
Lh and test normally fall following serms. But an LH of 7 is just fine. The problem is primary hypogonadism. Only solution, hcg or time.[/quote]
that’s what i said but the “pros” said he never gonna make a recovery !
btw hope your blood testing in the morning when test levels are at their peak… and not each blood test at different times… and with the amount you spend on blood tests i would rather spend it on a good doctor ! just wt i would do now since its 5 months…i couldnt wait for another few months if i were you…
[quote]G0D123 wrote:
[quote]Mennotinblack wrote:
Lh and test normally fall following serms. But an LH of 7 is just fine. The problem is primary hypogonadism. Only solution, hcg or time.[/quote]
that’s what i said but the “pros” said he never gonna make a recovery !
btw hope your blood testing in the morning when test levels are at their peak… and not each blood test at different times… and with the amount you spend on blood tests i would rather spend it on a good doctor ! just wt i would do now since its 5 months…i couldnt wait for another few months if i were you…[/quote]
NO! That was never said. It was stated that not recovering was a possibility. Not a certainty.
Also, if I recall you said “I’m not sure but it’s probably going to involve HCG”. Then you said it was placebo.
Try again
Having high LH and low T is not fine.
Lh above 1 is in acceptable ranges for men. I get bloodwork done 4x a year. While not ideal, an lh of 3 can produce testosterone of 1000 if the testis are sensitive. Average for male is between 3-7, range prolly 1-10. So 7 iu is fine. Do not use so much hcg you suppress lh or desensitize testes. I wouldnt use trip to restart your hpta now because the hpta isnt the problem at the pituitary level, your ballbag is. Give it some zinc, vitamin D, maybe daa, horny plants, and hcg. Or time. Your choice. If all else fails then look into a trip shot, consult doctor, etc.