im thinking about taking 800 mg of sust 400 mg of tren enanthate clen and t3. ive done four cycles in the past im 21 and am lookin two get ultimatly shredded so any input would be appreciated thanx
Slide across a cheese grater if you want to get “ultimatly [sic] shredded.”
What are your stats? How long would this cycle be? Why the hell are you taking those substances if you’re trying to cut fat? Why’d you start so young? How long have you been lifting? How would you split the dosages? What type of PCT or AI would you consider for this? Why are the dosages so high?
I’d hate to ask what your 4 previous cycles looked like. Seriously, guy. More info.
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Slide across a cheese grater if you want to get “ultimatly [sic] shredded.”
What are your stats? How long would this cycle be? Why the hell are you taking those substances if you’re trying to cut fat? Why’d you start so young? How long have you been lifting? How would you split the dosages? What type of PCT or AI would you consider for this? Why are the dosages so high?
I’d hate to ask what your 4 previous cycles looked like. Seriously, guy. More info.[/quote]
Forget about his 4 previous cycles, do you know what kind of damage you might have already done to yourself, if you did 2 cycles a year you started at 19 . I hope you maxed out height wise in your teens, and a guy you age with a proper diet and training DOES NOT NEED A.S. !! I would love to have the test levels of a 21 y/o . I know you asked for advice but i couldnt help myself, i wish when i started years and years ago i had all this infomation thats on the internet.
Im not gonna say anything about your age because that is ultimately your decision. However I don’t like that cycle will get you the results your seeking. If you want to cut you must first understand the importance of diet and cardio, once you master those then add some compounds that can aid in fat loss. Personally I am about to start a cutting cylce as well, Im going to run Primobolan and Masteron . . .
A lot of people like using test prop with tren or mast or winny. I would stay away from clen as it has been shown to increase the size of your heart. With sust your gonna get a lot of great strength and weight gain but you will also retain water, which wont help you get “shredded”
i’ll also be taking letrozole to prevent any aromatization from the test or progesterone from the tren. i usually lift four days a week. and sorry ive only cycled 3 times and one cyle was just with M1T.
MY TWO STEROID CYCLES WERE 200 MG NANDRALONE =600 MG OF TEST ENANTHATE PER WK AND THE SECOND WAS 4 WEAKS OF DIANABOL AT 35MG/D WITH 600 MG OF SUST I WENT FROM 160 TO 190. NOW I WEIGHT 185 THREE MONTHS POST CYCLE. both times i post cycled with you’r typical clomiphene citrate tamoxifen combo for a total of three weeks and followed up with tribulus.
I had blood work done after my second cycle ,my doc gave me this really bewildered look and asked me why i had such trace amounts of estrogen [from the letrozole] and why my liver values were so high. it was really awkward and embaresing so im kinda scared to go back. ILL CUT OUT THE CLEN AND T3 AND MAYBE THIS WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE. 300 MG TREN+600MG SUST AND THANX FOR THE SUGESTION BUT IM NOT REALLY INTO MUTILATING MY BODY WITH KITCHEN APPLIANCES
So many capital letters. I feel like I’m being yelled at.
Letrozole is a bad idea. It’s not just going to prevent aromatization, it’s going to completely destroy all estrogen circulating your bloodstream. Don’t let myth fool you, you want trace amounts of it in your body. Switch to Arimidex, and consider taking it during cycle as opposed to holding off on it.
Read up on the recommended dosages. Also, read up on the individual ester lengths of Sustanon so you can better understand how you should be splitting it. I’d avoid running Tren with that cycle until you better understand how to come off of it. It’s tricky business.
so maybe .25 mg/day arimidex i know it is prefered over letro but but already have letrozole. so that was the only reason i was going to take it. i understabd that it eliminates up to 98% of the estrogen within the fat cell and that can lead to joint pain,depression,headache and ultimately lowers your imune system wich probably isnt the greatest idea while injecting a.a.s.
i really want to ad the tren because ive already got it and its going to be my last cycle until im a bit older. if you could provide me with some info on what dose to take for how long and how to come of it would be greatly appreciated. it’s tren enan so rite away i can tell you it will have a half life of just over two weeks. so thats ideally when i should start pct. but the sustanon has a decanoate ester in it so should i maybe cut out the sust a week prior to discontinuing the tren so both long estered substances leave the body at the same time?
i really dont know im just guessing. but i really appreciate your guys help thanx alot!
Just because you already have it does not mean that you should do it. Again as with what was already said, get some a dex and scrap the idea of the letro.
As for waiting for the test or the tren to clear. I would personally stop the tren at the same time as the test or shortly before and worry about when the test is clearing. This is why so many people dont like sus as the different clearing times of the components.
What you dont seem to understand yet is that getting ultimately shredded does not have near as much to do with the different compounds that you are putting in to your body as it has to do with you diet and nutritional requirements.
See yA
ive already got diet down to a T ive been down to 6% bodyfat. It took me 14 weeks and it sucked lol.i dont have to do cardio because of my job. in fact my job makes it so fuckin hard to build any muscle its almost impossible i run around on logs tying up booms with 60 pound chains all day and pulling up 200ft of steel cable out off the ocean i need to eat 10,000 calories a day so i dont wilt away. but on the upside i make a killing so its worth it.
a budy of mine got me some a dex at my gym. and im going to even ditch the tren idea and stick to 600 mg sust with .25mg a dex a day for 10 weeks is one shot every 3 days enough? because of the prop ester being so short? and do i do quad shots standing or sitting? straight legged or bent? and how many ml can you put in your quad in one bang. i like to cut my stuff with cottonseed oil. i really appreciate you guys taking your time to help me too, thanx alot!
diet and training dictate the results of a cutter…not the AAS.
IMO, the cycle you outlined is a lean mass cycle, not a cutter…
at least the way i see it, a true cutter consists of a maintenance dose of AAS to retain muscle mass, adding in some fat burners, while dieting and performing cardio. a maintenance dose is wayyyyy lower than most people run in their “cutters”. you want to shed bodyfat in a cutter, the goal is not to make gains.
but what the fuck do i know.
what would a good maintinance dose be? and is it possible to gain muscle and lose fat simultaneously? fuck it im going to make it a lean mass cycle, lol i like the sound of that . ive got lots of deca,tren enan boldenone lost of sust some clen,t3[wich i dont realy think i need in there] some a dex,letro lots of clomid and lots of nolva so juice 20jd ,wanna help me with my lean mass cycle? maybe an outline or something?
Running a cycle and would love some input.
Im 6’2" 24 years old currently 187lbs (up 7 from the 1st week). My gym experience is sufficent,training regimn in check.
Im running a 10 week cylce: 500mg Test-E all 10 weeks and 40 mg/Dianabol the first 4 weeks. Post cycle TBD. Any recomendations of what and how much to take for my PCT? Does it matter if i split the 500mg into 2 injections (one tues, one sat).
Also I took 750mg tuesday and 250 saturday of test-e the first week to load the cycle…any thoughts on that?