Hey there. I have run 3 short cycles up to this, starting last August. 3 weeks or less in duration. Now, I am bored of this, I am looking into a real cycle. I have no specific thing in my mind, just get bigger, so I was thinking test and deca. Height is 6’1’', 215 pounds, really lean. 20 years old.
Week 1-12 Test E 250mg EOD
Deca 1-10 Deca 200mg E3D
Week 1-12 Nolva 20mg ED. No access to an AI.
Bromo on hand, or should I start it from the beginning?
Week 1 up to 3 days prior to PCT HCG 250IU E3D.
Week 14-18 Nolva 40/40/20/20 Clomid 50/50/25/25
How does it look?
[quote]niksamaras wrote:
Hey there. I have run 3 short cycles up to this, starting last August. 3 weeks or less in duration. Now, I am bored of this, I am looking into a real cycle. I have no specific thing in my mind, just get bigger, so I was thinking test and deca. Height is 6’1’', 215 pounds, really lean. 20 years old.
Week 1-12 Test E 250mg EOD
Deca 1-10 Deca 200mg E3D
Week 1-12 Nolva 20mg ED. No access to an AI.
Bromo on hand, or should I start it from the beginning?
Week 1 up to 3 days prior to PCT HCG 250IU E3D.
Week 14-18 Nolva 40/40/20/20 Clomid 50/50/25/25
How does it look?
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If you are running nolva throughout then there is no need to bump the dose up tp 40mg at PCT.
Some advice…
Inject every day. I know everyone says eod is fine but seriously, if you have no AI on hand then ED injects minimise sides. You may not even need an AI or the nolva. Do a font load. Inject every day, but double your dose for the first week. Smart idea dropping the deca two weeks early. Run the HCG from week two at a minimum and consider injecting your weekly dose of that slipt up for ED injects also.
Try and get an AI if you can, nolva aint the best thing to be on for long periods of time, having said that I’m sure I’ve had better gains doing it the way you are going to than with an AI. Only use prolactin meds as you need them, you may not. If you can find NPP instead of deca then use that, the clearance time helps with PCT. Don’t know if you’ve use dbol before but I would seriously consider adding in 20mg for a few weeks once the cycle has kicked in proper.
I would personally cut the test dose in half the last week and run a sort of mini taper to come off but thats me.
Best of luck man, you are going to enjoy this!
-no need to taper the test^
-find an AI and use it
-I would honestly recommend running test 4 weeks longer than deca
-nolva is not an AI
-if you are prone to prolactin issues I would start the bromo
Thank you all for your input.
I would really try to get an AI, Like walkway said I would run the test at least 4 weeks longer before starting pct. I also agree with MG, and do a mini taper, lot of guys don’t like it but I found it makes the transition easier.
[quote]BUDs wrote:
I would really try to get an AI, Like walkway said I would run the test at least 4 weeks longer before starting pct. I also agree with MG, and do a mini taper, lot of guys don’t like it but I found it makes the transition easier.[/quote]
I also agree with it being better to run test for four weeks longer than deca as opposed to two. As you were running a twelve week cycle though, I left it at two weeks since this is about the minimum time you can get away with and not suffer, and get the most out of the deca. If you are sensitive though then drop the deca at 8 weeks.