Strangely, i thought it was just me. Turns out, other guys get a kick out of pinning as well. My wife on the other hand can’t even look at the 23G needle without nearly passing out.
To the OP, sorry if my previous message deterred from your original post. I think you’ve been given all the advice you need from some of the best members on this forum. As for AI, get bloodwork done. That’s the only way to know for sure what you need or don’t need to consume. You say you always bounced back from your previous cycles. Do you have blood work to prove this? Some people feel fine and can make good gains with lower T. I’m not saying you’re one of these people but without the necessary numbers it’s all guesswork.
At 45 you’ll most likely end up on TRT, but as Hank said, make it a part of your training routine, not as a form of punishment and dreading every day you need to pin. Also at 45, TRT should be more than enough to make steady gains provided you have a good training and nutrition plan. If I were in your shoes I wouldn’t blast more than once or twice a year (and modestly) if health and longevity is one of your goals. You’ll still look better and be stronger than 99% of the population.
P.S @hankthetank89 did you ever get that quality lifting belt? For someone spending so much money on drugs, you should be able to sacrifice $150 on a good belt that’ll last you a lifetime and you can pass on to your children or whoever you choose. Or have it laid down in your coffin next to you once you eventually die
Not in a noteworthy quantity. T is just not the only factor in libido.
They definitely lead to libido decrease. Theres gabaergic neurons which control the firing rate of dopaminergic neurons in the reward center. If you increase GABA there (which Benzos do), you’ll decrease motivation and drive but also sexual desire as that is a highly dopamine dependent and reward driven feeling.
Going cold turkey with your dose of Valium will likely lead to you landing in the ER.
Please do the taper with a doctor. Benzos are real fuckers once dependent as the body becomes so accustomed to them. You have to taper very very slowly. Over months and in small steps. It is similar as with glucocorticoid withdrawal. Be slow and careful.
Great. First thing Monday I’m gonna go kill my GP.
Problem is that the doctor handed me them like ordinary aspirin. How can I trust him to be professional tapering me off of this crap when he was so unprofessional that when I said I’m having some problems at work he just doubled my dose. I didn’t even have to ask for it.
I read enough about tapering on various sites. “Luckily” he didn’t put me on Xanax but on a longer lasting benzo so it should be a bit easier. And I haven’t been on it for years like some people.
I have clonidine to help with the eventual tremors and possible insomnia. Hopefully within 2 months I’ll be down to 5mg and then I’ll just end it after a couple weeks of taking 5mg.
Hopefully my metabolism will successfully cope with the withdrawal. I’m not planning on dragging this out, hiding under a blanket, crying and not going out of the house for months like most people that write about their withdrawal on Reddit. I just can’t afford to.
I’ll also implement a holistic approach and get some tren ace.
Yeah I have a much weaker benzo called Clonazapam. I have a script for small dose as needed. I also take an SSRI. I had to try a few SSRIs as some killed my erections. The one I’m on does not, but the benzo will so I take it very infrequently and never if I think I’m getting laid.
i got a belt, nothing specific - just the wide version and a pretty hard one… got all my ribs fucked when learned to use it but now its ok…
i do feel more stable, at least - when i dont use it, i dont feel as stable… do not notice any real strenght improvement but i am using is and i kind of like the feeling… i got a few vids in my log, where you can see the belt but its just a regular one, nothing fancy.
Ok, I read more into this and you’re 100% on point. However, while I’m going through my taper which will last for some time, likely a few months, is there anything I can do to actually increase sex drive while still taking benzos? I feel my wife losing patience with me and I don’t blame her one bit. 10 years ago orgasms were daily almost in the double digits, and now, with more money, greater financial stability etc we haven’t had sex in weeks.
I’m prepared to temporarily throw the kitchen sink at this problem just to rectify it until I’m off the benzos completely.
So far increased test, proviron, Dbol or Cialis didn’t do jack shit for sexual arousal. Also to be clear, I don’t have a problem with getting (and staying) hard once it’s showtime. I have a problem getting myself to even want to have sex.
For what it’s worth I watched some porn the other day which I haven’t done for some time and that was ‘fun’ to say the least. I feel the engine is ready, but just needs something a bit extra to fire it up, so to speak.
So, more drugs, a candlelight dinner, putting the kid up for adoption… I’m open to all and any suggestions.
Edit: needless to say I’m taking all of the usual OTC supplements (magnesium, zinc, vitamin D, a good multivitamin, vit C, 200mg caffeine pre-workout etc…)
@hankthetank89 might have some tips as we discussed once what we do when we don’t feel like it but have to
I normally do something with her that turns me on, then I’m ready to go.
There’s some plant stuff, that increases sexual arousal in the brain. Supposedly horny goat weed, Ashwaghanda and Tongkat Ali work for a lot of people. Mucuna pruriens contains L dopa which increases dopamine but mostly not in the brain. The mechanism of these drugs is not the testosterone increase. Curcumin also increases my drive and ability to perform acutely.
I’d be careful with Ashwaghanda while on Benzos as there have been reports that it can act on some Gaba receptors
I unintentionally skipped through this post and just saw it now so sorry about that. As for the ashwaghanda, I tried it months ago and must say I was underwhelmed. It had no effect on me, even after taking handful of pills (used a well known brand, the ksm-66 type). Never tried horny goat weed or Tongkat Ali. At this point I think most of these herbal remedies mostly induce a placebo effect and that is their main point of action.
I think this is the best way to go - turn the TV off, go into foreplay mode and see what happens. What usually happens is she comes once or twice but it takes me longer to finish. At this point she’s already worn out. I’ll also need to skip the porn for a day or two since this obviously has an effect on how fast I can come.
If you want to fire up these neurons like mad, go for it, but if you want to increase sexual desire and performance I personally would abstain at least in the long run, that would be like fixing a stain on your wall by burning your house down
Opioids have more reliable and in general more side effects than any medication I know. There’s 30 side effects you’ll definitely get from opioids, ranging from hormonal effects and immune system effects to respiratory depression and obstipation. I’m not saying they don’t have their place, but if one doesn’t need them it’s way better to not get involved.
Is well substantiated. I can attest to the effects.
I’ve also had some effects with Ashwaghanda but not effects I liked. I got very nervous, hot and sweaty. Felt like too much T3.
(I always do at the least 2 reexposure experiments months apart to see how I feel and then write it down, so I can compare the effects. Ashwaghanda was not pleasant thrice)
Just don’t and keep your sexual prowess in tact. Then give it to her again later. I know women mentally struggle when their man doesn’t finish, but you can give it to her more often. Sex can be fun without finishing in my opinion.
I think the effects of stopping porn start to be felt at day 3 or 4. If you can’t cum, dont watch at all.
Not calling you a liar by any means here, but these sound like dating or newlywed numbers, if true. I believe it is more likely that this is what you remember it being like, rather than it actually being like that - not judgement, just saying that this is an absurd amount of sex for any couple.
Can I suggest talking to her about it, if you haven’t already? You two are going to get old together and shit is going to happen; this is some of that - and you (both) will need to be able to find a way to deal with that. She should be patient, just like you will need to be patient with her when she has troubles too.
Sorry, didn’t come here intending to give marriage advice, but I hope some perspective may help.
Foreplay of any sort tends to get neglected severely in long-term relationships… If the shoe fits here, I would suggest both of you putting more effort into foreplay when you can. It’s “fun” when first dating/married, but much more necessary as time goes on.
Disagree with the timeframe (probably showing my age here), personally 1-2 days would do just fine (for me), but agree with the second part of the statement 100%.
I find on the occasion that I am just not feeling like having sex, foreplay does the trick almost every time. Getting her going gets me going. That is a rare occasion (me not wanting it), but this technique also works well when I want it and she doesn’t. Foreplay is the answer.
I think you should read again. He meant his wife. 10 orgasms would be like 2 to maybe 3 times sex a day.
I don’t think that’s absurd.
Sorry man for the coming harsh words. Please @rusty_hammer dont. The open communication BS kills attraction and will do nothing good at all for the relationship. Men are expected to perform, sexually and in life. No talking to your wife will change that. I mean it will change her desire, she won’t want you anymore and then you can chill with the sex haha
I misunderstood, still I do think sex 2-3 times per day is extremely frequent and very uncommon for any long term relationship… People have lives and can’t just lay around fucking all day long - though it could happen on some days (not once children are in the house though).
Disagree strongly, but I guess this depends on the relationship really. If you are always in open communication with your spouse, suddenly not communicating these things would bring issues. If you aren’t always open in communication, then I think @lordgains has a point.
I know that my wife would rather I talk about it with her; if I wasn’t feeling into it on a frequent basis, but she would notice rather quickly. More than that, she would want to help if I came to her with these concerns… It is, after all, her O’s that she’d be missing. If she wants 'em, she can work for 'em too lol
I felt like he meant his wife too. Some women orgasm easily. I’ve had two that I could hit double digits for HER with two sessions a day. And yes, without kids, we just f’ed all the time. My max outside of my 20’s is six times in one day. At that point my cock is sore.
