New Business Failures

What? The cost of wars always plunges us into debt, while making more enemies for us. As we end up killing a lot of innocents.

Wrong again.
You assume only the pharma companies can formulate medicines. When their primary goal is to maximize profits at any cost, which leads to keeping more effective, less costly alternatives from coming to the market that they can’t compete with and make billions from. Essentially limiting the choice of the public… Even death is not a deterrent for them. Think opioids.

Self employed company owners and contractors are socialist!

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This idiot should be institutionalized but it would be a waste of tax payer’s money.

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When it is actively limiting choice of the public to keep up their profits it is.

Always, huh… He said Related to healthcare… Reading is difficult…

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We should like start a Go-fund-me campaign to raise funds to send him to Venezuela which he can live with all the other happy socialists. I’ll be nice and sponsor a year’s supply of toilet paper. After that, he’s on his own.

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I’m sure the Venezuelan’s will gladly pay for his medication, disability, healthcare, living accommodations, and food/basic necessities.

Pretty sweet deal if you ask me.

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Not that this should surprise anyone, but had we not gone to war in Iraq we could afford about a year and a half of medicare for all.

Compelling stuff.

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You’re fucking with me right? WHAT DO YOU THINK SOCIALISM WOULD DO YOU MORON???

Everyone would be equal, duh!

literally said actively limiting choice of the public…the cognitive dissonance man … it’s overwhelming

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I thought a far left sycophant could be at least educated a little when I posted the exact definitions of communism and socialism with the exact quotes from Marx and Lenin. Plus actual history, marxist philosophy, a real propaganda poster translated into English… He goes and finds a video from FOX NEWS to confirm his own beliefs.

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We’re also not happy with the status quo, and we shouldn’t be, since Americans pay the most for health care and generally get the worst outcomes among advanced nations.

Wow, sounds like something to brag about.

while eliminating all their spending on health care, it would still amount to a net savings for businesses.

Is that what you’re talking about?

American businesses, now the biggest source of health care coverage in the United States, could completely exit the business of providing health care, if national or even statewide single-payer coverage ever takes root. That could make American firms more competitive globally and leave a lot more money for employee raises and other benefits.

Or maybe it’s this?

The United States is the only advanced economy where employers are the primary source of health care. Famed investor Warren Buffett has called employer-provided health care the “tapeworm of American competitiveness,” because it forces American firms to bear a costly bureaucratic burden their foreign competitors don’t have to deal with.

Say it ain’t so.

On the whole, the Blahous analysis finds that total health spending would actually decline under the Sanders plan,

And what is that headline on Yahoo Finance that says it would save about 2 trillion.

Individual taxpayers are the biggest source of federal tax revenue,

Is this the only way to procure taxes?

On the whole, overall health spending would decline slightly, even as more people got access to care. Rand estimates that net health care costs, including new taxes, would fall for 90% of the state’s residents, while they’d rise for the top 10% of earners.

My heart just bleeds for the top 10%. Doesn’t yours?

Lol, now I’m disappointed I didn’t watch the video.

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When your position is utterly obliterated go back to your standard talking points. No one will notice…

It’s one of the things, yes.

Again, I would like you to explain why evil capitalist businesses should get to save money on healthcare while individuals suffer/pay more for healthcare because M4A will shift the burden to individual taxpayers? Can’t wait to hear this justification.

You’re literally just copying and pasting the article I gave you and it’s a PRO CAPITALISM ARGUMENT for SINGLE PAYER

I gave you the actual analysis by Blahouse. I don’t just read headlines and abstracts like you. I find and read the actual research.

I’m all ear as to where the fuck else you’re gonna get tax revenue from?

Well, seeing as I’m well within the 10% that’s already being bleed dry by leech like you…

How do the Netherlands and Australia do it?

In other words, ignoring the economic impact of eliminating a trillion dollar industry, the net effect is a total savings of $10 billion (according to a libertarian…) IF AND ONLY IF the government’s cost savings estimates are accurate AND healthcare professionals take at least a 40% pay cut.

Wouldn’t hold my breath on either of those two things happening.

Do healthcare professionals have a choice in what they can demand from the Medicare-For-All system?

Does the increase in people going to a doctor for care increase the cost? Is it less expensive for them to skip the potential preventative step and wait till they have to go to the ER?

How do other countries pay far less of a cost for their drugs?

Show me one American (who doesn’t work for a pharmaceutical company) who would be opposed to getting their drugs at 50% to 75% off.

Maybe savings would be greater than the assumptions of what the numbers say not less?

Lol. Fucking lol. A 2% saving. HOLY SHIT! WOWZERS!! Sign this legislation NOW! Cost to implement not included, shocking.

https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR2424.html

Whatever, dude. Let’s do it. I don’t give a fuck. I can afford to pay a doctor out of pocket for care. Stick it to the Middle Class that pays for your roof and care. Fuck those guys anyway.

Can’t be serious

I’m gonna go with no because if they do then Single-payer will definitely not cost less than status quo as no doctor with their six-figure student loans is going to take a 40% pay cut by choice.

Can’t be serious.

Can’t be serious.

Of course, everyone would love that because most people, you especially, haven’t the slightest fucking clue how much money it costs to R&D a drug.

I’d love to get my car for 50% off too. Groceries, hell ya!

There is no free lunch despite what you think.

Ya, maybe we’ll find Bigfoot too.

I need to go back on vacation, Jesus Christ.

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The same government that is in bed with the military-industrial complex. Where does the money come from? Why would you think the government who is owned and controlled by the ruling class would even care? To not know this is to be completely divorced from reality.