There were no counters to what I pasted up to the point where I wrote the fuckingPAGE NUMBERand told you to go read the WHOLE thing for counter arguments. You’re acting like I’m someone from the far left.
Post it.
Jesus Christ.
Which tells us nothing unless the specific countries and complete details and events pertaining to economic and political structures are analysed.
It can easily be interpreted as a major market correction after going from artificial suppression of the market to a free one.
What does the long term trend say? Oh, I know! it’s NOW the economic model that zep wants so badly!!!
See, zep. When you are ignorant about these things, it’s not good to be dishonest as well.
Yes. Very fucking invalid. A smart phone was science fiction at that time.
Ok. Look at the Nordic countries NOW. How are the results?
You would have to define exploit.
An existing gap does not imply exploitation especially in emerging markets unless you are going to try to use Marxist logic which you don’t even fully understand.
PS
Post the link to the article you are quoting from.
Which means Bernie and his cronies are full of shit and you have drunk the koolaid.
What don’t you understand about this? Is it really that complicated?
Go look up the definition of “socialism” starting from the Paris Commune and Marx’s coining of the term “Dictatorship of the Proletariate” and then look up the real meaning of “communism”.
Then tell me what we really saw in Russia and China, and what we’re seeing happen in Venezuela.
So do the ultra-wealthy buy politicians to do their bidding or not?
What has more social democrat policies done for the Nordic countries? Destroyed their economy?
The main lesson to learn from the Nordics is not ideological but practical. The state is popular not because it is big but because it works. A Swede pays tax more willingly than a Californian because he gets decent schools and free health care. The Nordics have pushed far-reaching reforms past unions and business lobbies. The proof is there. You can inject market mechanisms into the welfare state to sharpen its performance. You can put entitlement programmes on sound foundations to avoid beggaring future generations. But you need to be willing to root out corruption and vested interests. And you must be ready to abandon tired orthodoxies of the left and right and forage for good ideas across the political spectrum. The world will be studying the Nordic model for years to come.
Better said, does the public typically have a say in the policies under which it lives? No. So they are generally under the mercy of the elites. Ready to be exploited for the ruling classes gains of money and power.
Compared to economic elites, average voters have a low to nonexistent influence on public policies. “Not only do ordinary citizens not have uniquely substantial power over policy decisions, they have little or no independent influence on policy at all,” the authors conclude.
So when did Bernie advocate for the means of production to be owned by the workers?
An unregulated free market is merciless on the sick. Don’t I know it.
\With higher welfare.
Maybe they have the definitions screwed up, as a lot of people do, but I don’t recall Sanders advocating for the workers to own the means of production.
Were these countries Socialists? Are you denying that the interference of the U.S. did not have anything to do with the failure of the U.S.S;.R. and what is currently going on in Venezuela? If the policies in these countries don’t work, then don’t use them. If the policies in the Nordic countries work, use them.
That’s it. I’m not carrying on with this because you do not know anything about the history of these countries. You are only parroting the opinions of other people.
I WILL CONTINUE only when you have knowledge beyond the wiki and quora versions of them, which means in-depth knowledge derived from accredited sources. I studied Russian history for 2 years. It will not take one or two days for you.
You don’t screw up the fucking NAME OF YOUR OWN POLITICAL PARTY.
You don’t tell people you are advocating for an entire SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT if you don’t understand what it means.
You especially don’t tell people you want to adopt “THE NORDIC MODEL” if you don’t UNDERSTAND THE FUCKING MODEL.
If they can screw up things as basic as these, how do you trust anything they say, especially their financial projections that can potentially go into TENS OF TRILLIONS of dollars when trying to apply policies from a country like Denmark which has a population of under 5 MILLION vs the US which has >300 MILLION?
You can liquidate the assets of EVERY SINGLE ULTRA WEALTHY PERSON in the US to cover for any fuck ups of this magnitude and you’ll still be fucked.
Yea … so fuckin great consumers have to borrow > 200% of their income to fund their private lives … about double than in the US - sounds super great - I’d love over half my income directly taken by the Gov and then I have to borrow 2x what I earn to fund my life … that is an unsustainable way of life my man
Compared to economic elites, average voters have a low to nonexistent influence on public policies. “Not only do ordinary citizens not have uniquely substantial power over policy decisions, they have little or no independent influence on policy at all,” the authors conclude.