Well that bum is the most popular politician in the states. Denmark has a higher effective tax rate than the U.S. and more extensive social policies, right?
So Co-Ops are communism?
Do you even know what communism is?
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I donāt know. Itās not like I care for politicians in the first place.
Yes. So?
Just because a politician says they are a Bernie supporter doesnāt mean itās so.
What proposals is he supporting? What did he support before Sanders moved the party left? Maybe he is just jumping on the bandwagon.
Where in the article did it mention a socialist government? Was the U.S.S.R. a socialist government?
Do you even have any idea what socialism is? I really donāt think you do.
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I canāt be bothered. Heās free to do whatever he wants.
Yes. If the authors have any understanding of the subject they are speaking of or integrity at all.
Words do not simply mean whatever you want them to at the time you make a wish. They have definitions that are important to know and understand.
āSocial causesā, āsocial policyā, and āwelfareā can all be used to refer to programs designed to help the less fortunate. āSocialismā is a defined thing, it is not the same nor can it be used interchangeably with the above. Anybody who does so exposes either their ignorance or their dishonesty.
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Exactly!
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Wow, more propaganda. Designed to keep you unaware of how the ruling class is screwing you over with the help of their paid for lackeys in Congress. If the ruling class wants to leave letāem.
So maybe the Nordic countries donāt have socialism in itās strictest sense, but they do have a stronger social system. Maybe itās social democracy. If their system works better than ours, it ought to be adopted and made better.
Does the tax rate cost more than the capitalist leanings of America? Take single-payer as an example. You may pay more in taxation but less overall as you are not paying premiums etc.
Still wrong. Always wrong. Youāre a shill for alt left propaganda.
Affiliate link math rejecting lazy shill.
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None of what you wrote here is an argument or even attempts to refute anything in said āpropagandaā - point out where anything in that sophomoric video is inaccurate.
Stop obfuscating and deflecting with your appeal to ridicule tactic. Itās boring and makes you look weak - well, your argument IS weak hence the tactic but still ā¦ if you want to make a point, do so - if you want to ridicule, youāll be treated as the clown you areā¦
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So take an average middle class income of 60 k. Per year and impose the Nordic tax structure- 60%. Thatās 36,000 dollars. Now subtract from that our typical tax burden of 30%. Or 18,000 dollars.
Thatās $18,000 more per year, with all of the same cost burdens typical to that social strata, just minus $18,000.
That would completely fuck the entire population.
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Propaganda tends to be state sponsored. This is a teenager trying to break complex ideas down for his millennial lefty peers. Not exactly Goebbles.
Howās Venezuela doing? Cuba?
Remember they face a lot of different headwinds than the US. They donāt pay for defense. They have a mostly homogeneous population (in terms of culture, race and language) and they arenāt all fat sedentary people.
Iām with you on the low corporate taxes part of the nordic model. Corporations donāt pay taxes anyway, the customers, investors and employees of those corporations ultimately shoulder the burdens of taxation. People always pay the taxes, corporate taxation is just a lie and obfuscation to have something to rile the peasants up over.
Hereās where Iāve got you though. The reason the individual income taxes in the Nordic Model collect so much revenue is because (drumroll) they are significantly less progressive than in the USA. They are way flatter. Someone who makes $60k in Denmark pays the top marginal rate of 60%!
The VAT taxes are hidden, insidious and stupid. Nobody anywhere should want a VAT.
So what youāre saying when you want the Nordic model is: āWe need to triple income tax rates on the working classes, place a 25% regressive tax on purchased goods and lower the rates corporations pay.ā @Zeppelin795 -2018
If Bernie were honest about copying the nordic model, thatās what heād be advocating. Thereās something in there for every one of our 325 million citizens to be pissed about.
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I remember when the tax for the ACA kicked in at my sons daycare and all of those hens started clucking about how much was missing from their paychecks. They were actually complaining to Me about it and saying they need a raise. I said to the one woman āYou asked for it. You didnāt actually think it was Free health care, did you?ā. She did.
Then my daycare cost went up $200.00/ month. So many people dropped their kids from there they had to let a few workers go. I simply reiterated " You asked for it, free healthcare!".
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Man, I was just having a conversation about how people really canāt think past stage 1 - how this shit WILL affect them. This just reinforces that notion ā¦
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He did say āmade betterā.
Get rid of the crap. Keep their lower corporate tax rates and the more capitalist economy with less government involvement.
Theyāre just too dumb. Some of the conversations I had with people about this were shockingly stupid.
Who knew healthcare could be so complicated?!?
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