My friend is currently in the hospital and is in a very bad situation. He is there for a different issue, but because of a recent abdominal muscle strain which happened doing rehab after surgery, he has been beed bound for 2 weeks now and the muscle strain wont heal. The issue is that he has gotten so weak that even just getting out of bed to sit or stand or even doing light exercises in bed flares up the strain. His doctor has now prescribed him Deca Durabolin and is open to also prescribing testosterone or whatever else might help heal the strain. However, his doctor says he does not know much about these things. So my friend and I basically have to find out the dosing ourself and think about what else could help.
Things that complicate the situation:
My friend is on 100% TPN, meaning he gets all of his nutrition and fluids through a central line in the chest.
He is mostly bed bound now, but tries to get up and sit and stand for a few minutes a few times a day.
So far he has gotten one dose of 50mg deca (yesterday)
We are looking into adding testosterone and would like bpc157 (but dont think this is available), also considering HGH but not sure if the side effects of this are too great, since his liver numbers are very high
He is currently receiving Piritramide (an opiod), Lorazepam (benzodiazepam), Zofran (anti nausea), Paspertine (anti nausea).
TLDR:
Bed bound friend (30 years old male) in hospital need to heal abdominal muscle strain as soon as possible. So far he has gotten 1 dose of 50mg of deca, but what else should he add to heal as fast as possible? The Doctor does not know much about it and is open to our suggestions. Right now we are thinking 50-100mg or more deca per week and then add testosterone (I assume fast release such as testosterone propionate, but not sure about dose?)
It is very urgent and he need to heal asap since his other issues are getting worse and worse every day from being bed bound.
Well deca will not “heal” anything. In fact AAS cause additional inflammation in the body. Deca will cause water retention in the joints which gives the impression it is doing something but it’s not. It’s masking the issue. I think there is more to this then your post says.
None of these things accept the BPC will make a difference
This is true, but the recovery is from use and the muscle fiber breakdown from that use, not acute injury such as a tear. I don’t have all the facts here so take from this what you will but this just seems like an odd path to take.
I hope your friend makes a speedy recovery.
In the early days of anabolic steroids all of the development was for medical conditions with absolutely no consideration of use by athletes. Many medical conditions included that could benefit from anabolic steroids were those persons who are bed ridden.
Totally agree. Can’t imagine a hospital messing with this guys hormone profile to heal a strain. Sounds like maybe a muscle wasting issue? A couple weeks in bed in not gonna turn a healthy person to jello.
I agree there could be a place for this. Your also siting a 45yo blurb about dianabol. I think modern medicine has evolved. But again, we don’t have all of the facts here.
I just feel as you are commenting on AAS from an athlete’s point of view. It seems OP’s friend is far from being an athlete.
I was just mentioning the money behind anabolic steroid research in America was solely for those persons who had illnesses. This area is far from my expertise. And I would qualify any comment that I made about the use of anabolic steroids prescribed to treat an illness.
I have mentioned a couple times in this thread that more into is needed.
Original post was trying to help a muscle strain from a rehab incident. When have anabolic steroids ever been used to treat this? Seems ludicrous take at face value
I’m in this camp as well. Normally with Deca/Nandrolone I would insist on Test as well but Nandrolone does aromatize a little and strong erections aren’t important right now. I don’t think it gonna help but I’d still prob put him on 100mg of Test a week if you are going to give him Nandrolone and fire all shots at this. Long ester Test is fine as Nandrolone is longer than long ester Test.
@RT_Nomad i enjoy seeing your old book captions. The warning text made me grin.
My 1979 Physician’s Desk Reference replaced an older edition that I had. The older edition did not have a warning that “anabolic steroids do not enhance athletic ability.”
But maybe the science made a tiny step forward. Science found that athletes and high school boys were using anabolic steroids to improve their performance.
I will say that it was very common for the medical community to insist that, basically, anabolic steroids did not do exactly what was obvious to all of us users. To help prevent future users science decided to do an “education” campaign. That was the better science at that time. Maybe? But, isn’t that the most logical explanation.
I do know that a good friend of mine had his doctor prescribe him Winstrol when he was in high school to help him excel in the 880 yard run (1965-1966). It was the doctor’s idea.
