It may have to do with dopamine as well
Possible… I just haven’t seen a lot that seems to help with that though other than Wellburtrin and I’d really like to avoid that if possible. I have had issues with super cold hands/feet and low body temp (like, low 97’s) for a while now, so I’m hoping just fixing Thyroid will have me back to being a minute man, haha
Had my appt w/Dr Saya earlier.
Basically he said to keep doing what I’m doing for now except try to add back in smaller doses of HCG to keep the balls going since kids are in the plan for next year, but otherwise keep with the same protocol unless something comes up that warrants looking into further. I had been slacking with doing the HCG but maybe smaller amounts will not make me feel as crappy.
I’m still interested in trying Thyroid meds though. Not sure how I’m going to proceed with that. I thought with my TSH going from 2 to 2.9 it would warrant trying something like Armour to see how I responded, or at least testing ft3, etc.
Prolactin he said keep an eye on but also doesn’t want to do anything since I’ve felt pretty good the last week or two.
I forgot to ask about the TRH/TSH/Prolactin relationship, gah. I should have made some notes beforehand.
Did someone have sex twice last night without any issues for the first time in over a year, probably a year and a half? Yes, this guy did
I’ve managed to do twice in the same day not too terribly long ago but the second time was a struggle and it was like 8+ hours apart.
This time… no issues.
And I’m pretty sure I could have at least attempted a third. And was ready to go again this morning.
And… it’s week 7 of consistently using the cream. That’s exactly how long it took me to get to feeling good on injections too, so hopefully this sticks around. It sure as hell didn’t hurt my confidence to finally be able to do that again.
I always thought the 6, 7, 8 week “stay the course” thing was bs, but it sure seems to be true for me.
Woohoo.
I also resumed HCG last night at 200IU’s, 2x a week, so I hope that doesn’t negatively impact this too much but who knows.
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I’ve continued on pretty good. The sex diary continues, haha.
Wednesday was the 2x night I posted about last.
Thursday-Saturday was at least once a day and there was a morning or two in there somewhere which used to be impossible, twice Sunday, super quick one of those times in the last few days (which also used to be impossible)… so yeah, I’m doing pretty good it seems.
I’m starting to worry about it less which I think can only be a positive.
I still want to look closer at my thyroid hormones as I’m pretty tired a lot of the time still. Any ideas for getting my hands on some Armour to try out? I guess I should do some new lab work first to get a new baseline for ft3, etc.
I’m going to continue with 250IU’s of HCG on Sunday and Wednesday and see how I do. That should be enough to keep the ol boys going. If I feel like crap I may back it down even further but hopefully I am fine at that dose.
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If you need Armour Google aipct
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Thanks, I didn’t see it on their site but I’ll look again when I’m not using my phone and see if I can find it
Still not seeing it? I dunno. Any other ideas? I’d like the real Armour stuff if I can get it so I don’t gave to figure out dosages again later if it helps and I get a legit prescription for it.
What state do you live?
North Carolina
Guess I spoke too soon on that one. Monday was good, Tuesday was pretty difficult but I just figured it had been a lot lately. Wednesday wife was out of town. Thursday tried like 4x and couldn’t get done. Going totally numb again. I feel like I’ve taken an ssri or something. Head is tingly and I have the same weird fake alertness feeling I got from those. Doesn’t matter what I do, can’t make it happen myself or with her.
I tried a tiny dose of pt141 Wednesday night (she was getting back in town Thursday morning for anyone wondering why I would take it while she was gone… lol) so I’m afraid I had a bad reaction to that. Hopefully I get back to normal soon. The half-life is only like 5 hours for the stuff and I took less than 0.5mg. But I tend to take forever to feel normal after I take anything.
I feel like an idiot for even trying it when I was finally feeling better. I feel like a zombie right now. Super depressing.
Now I have no way of knowing whether it was that that caused this or something else. I’m stopping HCG until it’s baby making time. I hate the stuff.
I’m starting to wonder if my e2 is off the charts or something because of the hcg. I don’t know. I’m still no better. Still haven’t gotten done since Tuesday no matter what I try.
Can’t get any blood work until Monday so probably Wednesday or Thursday to get results
I don’t know wtf to do. Guess I’ll email the doc and see what he thinks. But yeah. This sucks.
I know, AI’s bad, etc. But I’d take about anything at this point if it fixed me. I have some on hand but am afraid taking them will make this misery last longer.
No improvement. I’m relatively fine erection wise, but cannot climax. I’m pretty sure if I had two porn stars in my bed, I STILL wouldn’t be able to.
I’m at the end of my bottle of creme and am really starting to wonder if the very bottom wasn’t mixed correctly or got separated or something somehow. It’s extremely thin/lotion like, more so than I remember it being. I usually have a slightly white residue left after it dries and I haven’t had that lately. My constipation has returned (TMI? Sorry, but it went away for the first time in years when TRT was working…), skin isn’t oily anymore, acne is gone, etc. All these little things that changed are going back to how they were pre TRT. It really feels like I’m just not getting any T out of this creme right now for whatever reason. It would at least make sense as I feel EXACTLY like I did a year ago sex wise, before I figured out low T and low E2 were the cause of my issues.
I’m going to do some basic blood tests on Monday. Total T, Free T, Estradiol, Prolactin and see where I stand.
I guess this is one area where injections are still superior… I still have some T in a vial I had leftover, so I could inject that, but I am going to hold off at least until Monday so I can get a real blood test and see if my theory is right. I also express ordered a new bottle of creme. I’m going to light someone’s ass up if this creme wasn’t made correctly and is what is caused all of this. But I’ll be glad at the same time because it’s an easy fix.
It sucks but hang in there so you can get labs and figure out what’s going on.
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I guess on the positive side, this is the best my skin has looked in months? Haha
I’d sure take my dick working over baby skin though.
And I’ve lost about 8lbs
Pew pew, got’r done. My wife is going to be sore but at least I made it happen after almost a week.
I’m still doing bloods tomorrow assuming defy gets me the paperwork in time
We’ll see if there’s anything interesting in a few days. LabCorp has been turning around tests in about 2 business days for me lately so I may know something mid week
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hi do you have pfs too? Have you tried cabergoline?
Where did you get the cream? If the pharmacy is not really good at compounding cream it is easy to screw up. It takes one lazy employee to screw it up.
You’ve been on trt since may. Lots of changes in the first year. I had low libido issues 6 months in for a couple weeks but it always comes back. The body is not going to be consistent.
You cannot say trt isn’t working just because libido is off. How do you feel . That’s what matters. Give it a week or two without trying to get an erecrion (if possible) and it should be back in no time.
The cream i have from med quest does not leave a residue. The cream from another pharmacy does. It works when the scrotal area gets warm and humid. The heat helps the skin absorb the cream.
@enackers It’s from empower. My issues have always been sexual so from that perspective I don’t feel good. Numb genitals, etc. No ED issues but I’ve never really had any issues there. It’s the anorgasmia that sucks the worst. My head has this weird aching feeling that I’ve never had before. That’s the only other symptom I’ve noticed. I know it doesn’t seem super likely that I randomly hit a spot in this tube that had something wrong with it but I don’t have another explanation as to how I’d go from the best I’ve been in years to as bad as I’ve been over the course of only a week. I guess I’ll see if there’s anything obvious on my blood tests and go from there.
I’ve been on TRT in one degree or another since May but I wasn’t consistent about it until the end of June and only started cream early August, so it is still a bit newer to me.
It’s just weird to so suddenly go backwards to basically the worst I’ve ever been. Hopefully it works itself out soon, either via a new tube of correctly made creme or just plain more time on TRT, whichever it is I need.
I had issues that I believe are related to finasteride use, yes. My SHBG was off the charts high and my free T and E2 were super low. This all started when I stopped/restarted then stopped taking fin again in a short period of time.
I hesitate to say it’s pfs because I believe there are multiple types of pfs. One type is like me where shbg is way too high, causing a lack of free sex hormones. That one is easy to treat. The other type creates some sort of androgen receptor issue that doesn’t get resolved by increasing sex hormones. I’m not sure anyone knows how to resolve that one, which makes it pretty scary.