Pat Riley needs to do a Jedi mind trick on the big 3 and convince them to opt out of their current deals so that they can all resign for a little less and add a big 4th like Carmelo or sometbing. (Not a big fan of Melo but story is that they want him)
Then after they get James and Melo signed they need to tell Bosh and wade that they are pulling their offers to them and try to sign someone who can actually play PT guard and some big guy who knows how to rebound, wants to protect the rim and doesn’t think they’re a 3pt specialist.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
I cant see melo winning anything, ever. He’s a black hole on offense and really not a team guy imho.
Lebron + kyire + #1 pick = it’s something to think about, just sayin…
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I think LeBron leaving to go back to Cleveland would be awesome. I would like to see him go back there and win a championship some day. I also think that’s the only place he could go and wouldn’t catch holy hell for it from fans and the media.
I hope he opts out and goes back there… Or to the Lakers
[quote]Aggv wrote:
I cant see melo winning anything, ever. He’s a black hole on offense and really not a team guy imho.
Lebron + kyire + #1 pick = it’s something to think about, just sayin…
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Agreed on Anthony. He does literally nothing but score the ball, and he turns everyone on his team into spectators while he dribbles the air outta the ball and forces up bad shots. He’d be a great 2nd or 3rd option on a team with a legitimate closer and strong interior defenders to erase his mistakes, but he’d never go for that. In his mind he’s #1.
Also, I’m surprised James hasn’t caught more shit for indifference to losing. He literally said after game 4 that if Miami lost it’s not the end of the world and 4 Finals in as many years is ok with him. He’s right, but damn dude. Sounded like he already gave up.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
As much as I dislike James and feel that the NBA just hands him, he truly is a phenomenal player. With that, Miami’s done. Wade should hang 'em up, Bosh needs to come to Houston (if they can’t get Love) and Miami needs to start “rebuilding”. I know that sounds crazy for a team that made FOUR straight Final’s, but there is zero chance they reach another one with this roster. The Spurs made 'em look like a college team. Not sure there’s ever been such a lopsided whooping, at least that I’ve seen.[/quote]
It’s also crazy that four straight finals appearance basically feels like a failure. I mean back-to-back championships is special, but they way it started with “The Decision” and “The Welcome Party” it seems rather unfulfilling.
It will be interesting to see what happens this offseason.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Also, I’m surprised James hasn’t caught more shit for indifference to losing. He literally said after game 4 that if Miami lost it’s not the end of the world and 4 Finals in as many years is ok with him. He’s right, but damn dude. Sounded like he already gave up.[/quote]
And this is why he’ll never hold a candle to Jordan.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Also, I’m surprised James hasn’t caught more shit for indifference to losing. He literally said after game 4 that if Miami lost it’s not the end of the world and 4 Finals in as many years is ok with him. He’s right, but damn dude. Sounded like he already gave up.[/quote]
And this is why he’ll never hold a candle to Jordan. [/quote]
Exactly. You’d NEVER hear Jordan, Bryant, Bird, hell any of the past greats say that. They wouldn’t even think it. It’s a different breed of player today. The laziness and entitlement is crazy. Think Durant is one of the few new school players with old school attitudes. Paul George strikes me that way as well.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Also, I’m surprised James hasn’t caught more shit for indifference to losing. He literally said after game 4 that if Miami lost it’s not the end of the world and 4 Finals in as many years is ok with him. He’s right, but damn dude. Sounded like he already gave up.[/quote]
And this is why he’ll never hold a candle to Jordan. [/quote]
Exactly. You’d NEVER hear Jordan, Bryant, Bird, hell any of the past greats say that. They wouldn’t even think it. It’s a different breed of player today. The laziness and entitlement is crazy. Think Durant is one of the few new school players with old school attitudes. Paul George strikes me that way as well.
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Your opinion on Kawhi Leonard?
Love everything about Durant except his endorsement of Scotty Brooks; although Durant supports everybody…
Like Leonard’s game, but gonna wait to see how he does without three HOF’ers around him. Been saying for years that Rondo is super overrated and anyone can look good dishing to 3 high scoring HOF’ers and sho 'nuff, he played like shit this year. Granted he was coming off of a serious injury but the point remains. Don’t think Leonard is or will be overrated, just need time. Kid played his ass off this year though.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
And this is why he’ll never hold a candle to Jordan. [/quote]
I am not a huge fan of judging individual greatest on team successes like winning championship, but…
Jordan basically shut out a generation of players from getting rings. Olajuwon got his while Jordan was on his baseball hiatus, but so many other guys never got theirs. For example check out this link and what it says about Jordan’s legacy:
So far Lebron has let Dirk get a ring and Leonard just got one. As WhiteFlash was saying we still have to see if Leonard will be one of this era’s greats. It will be interesting to see if Durant gets his on Lebron’s watch.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
And this is why he’ll never hold a candle to Jordan. [/quote]
I am not a huge fan of judging individual greatest on team successes like winning championship, but…
Jordan basically shut out a generation of players from getting rings. Olajuwon got his while Jordan was on his baseball hiatus, but so many other guys never got theirs. For example check out this link and what it says about Jordan’s legacy:
So far Lebron has let Dirk get a ring and Leonard just got one. As WhiteFlash was saying we still have to see if Leonard will be one of this era’s greats. It will be interesting to see if Durant gets his on Lebron’s watch.
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Olajuwon and the Rockets would’ve given the Bulls problems. Aside from the fact that the Dream is the best center of the modern era and the Bulls obviously had no answer for him (neither did anyone else) their ball movement, spacing, ability to hit shots and incredible team defense would’ve been a lot for Chicago to overcome.
Also, don’t think Leonard will be one of his generation’s defining talents. Kid can play, and I think he can be very good and maybe even a few time All-Star, but he’s not a franchise changer.
Good point. I mean to take nothing away from Olajuwon. He had a winning record all time against Jordan and the Bulls (13-10). The Rockets were definitely a match up problem for the Bulls. It is too bad we never saw them meet in the Finals. Both those guys absolutely brought it on the big stage in the Finals. In 1993 Jordan averaged 41.0!!!, 8.5, and 6.3. The Dream averaged 32.8, 11.5, and 5.5 in 1995.
So, by no means am I saying the Rockets titles are not legit. Just the fact Jordan was gone and we can say “what if?” only adds to MJ’s legend. And not only is Jordan 6-0 in the finals, he is 6 time Finals MVP. But had they run into the Rockets that may have been different.
I remember these guys playing when I was very young. At the time I did not have the perspective to realize how special they were.
Even if the Heat keep Lebron, Wade and Bosh that team is going to look extremely different. Chalmers, Lewis, Anderson, Allen, Oden will all possibly be gone, It will be interesting to see what happens.
Going back to to Jordan, The 1992-93 Knicks had the best shot of beating Jordan and the bulls, won the first two games…got domed in Chicago then game 5, Charles Smith…SMH
I don’t know what will happen with the Heat, but I think Lebron teams up with someone new next year (Melo?). I think either Lebron is leaving the Heat, or if he stay Wade and Bosh will be gone.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
bosh is a fake big man, and wade corpse is worthless. That team needs a ground up rebuild. [/quote]
Lebron led the Heat in rebounding this season (and in the post season as well) with 6.9 per game. So, I agree Bosh is really bringing nothing to the table.
[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
You guys are just as bad as the media. Still talking about the Heat even though they were the losers of the series.[/quote]
People are talking about the heat because they were the two time defending champs, they have the best player in the NBA and they got absolutely CRUSHED in one of the most lopsided finals ever.
[quote]JMac31 wrote:
Good point. I mean to take nothing away from Olajuwon. He had a winning record all time against Jordan and the Bulls (13-10). The Rockets were definitely a match up problem for the Bulls. It is too bad we never saw them meet in the Finals. Both those guys absolutely brought it on the big stage in the Finals. In 1993 Jordan averaged 41.0!!!, 8.5, and 6.3. The Dream averaged 32.8, 11.5, and 5.5 in 1995.
So, by no means am I saying the Rockets titles are not legit. Just the fact Jordan was gone and we can say “what if?” only adds to MJ’s legend. And not only is Jordan 6-0 in the finals, he is 6 time Finals MVP. But had they run into the Rockets that may have been different.
I remember these guys playing when I was very young. At the time I did not have the perspective to realize how special they were.[/quote]
Didn’t think you were being dismissive of Houston’s accomplishments. Also didn’t realize the Rockets had a winning record against the Bulls during Olajuwon’s tenure. That’s awesome. You gotta think that during their first championship they had Vernon Maxwell who played Jordan as well as anyone (they actually got into a fight once) and their second chip they had Drexler. Not saying the Rockets would’ve kicked their ass, but I think Jordan’s unbeaten Final’s record wouldn’t be there.
Couldn’t agree more on your last point. Late 80’s through mid 90’s basketball was truly the Golden Age for the NBA. Looking back at some of those teams and those players it’s insane how much awesome basketball was being played. You take it for granted 'cause you’re young and have no point of reference, then you get older and realize how special that time period was. They definitely don’t make 'em like that anymore.
