NBA Free Agency/Offseason

[quote]aznt0rk wrote:

[quote]tmoney1 wrote:
Damn, just read Dan Gilbert’s letter to Cavs fan. Raw and uncut. Wow!

Yea, I was shocked when they read it on ESPN. Cavs can’t win a championship before james does.[/quote]

HAHA yeah. But if they do, beating MIA to get there would be the ultimate revenge.

[quote]tmoney1 wrote:

[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]tmoney1 wrote:
Mike Miller currently considering 5 yr/$27.5M deal to join MIA.

Honestly, I don’t see what’s to ‘consider’ just sign already.[/quote]

Honestly I don’t know why any shooter wouldn’t be completely salivating to get on that roster. There are going to be some wide open shots to be had considering the zone they are almost certainly going to be facing 95% of the time. How many teams are equipped to stop them with anything other than a zone, LA, maybe Boston, other teams can do 2/3 but then you throw a shooter on the wing and you’re going to be so fucked by the 3rd having space.[/quote]

For sure. Guys are killing to get on that squad. Miller is a nice fit. Good shooter, doesn’t need to be the main guy. As Flash mentioned, him and Bron are boys, so I think it will work out good.

So the possible starting 5 becomes:

Bron
Bosh
Wade
Miller
Chalmers

Pretty solid…
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Shit, you know they all wish Kapono was still there. And, I honestly think they’re gonna run James at the point. If they get Miller I see it as: PG-James, SG-Wade, SF-Miller, PF-Bosh, C-???. Obviously I could be wrong, but on this squad I see James as a set-up man. Or you could be right and they run James as a point-forward. Guess we’ll see.

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]tmoney1 wrote:

[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]tmoney1 wrote:
Mike Miller currently considering 5 yr/$27.5M deal to join MIA.

Honestly, I don’t see what’s to ‘consider’ just sign already.[/quote]

Honestly I don’t know why any shooter wouldn’t be completely salivating to get on that roster. There are going to be some wide open shots to be had considering the zone they are almost certainly going to be facing 95% of the time. How many teams are equipped to stop them with anything other than a zone, LA, maybe Boston, other teams can do 2/3 but then you throw a shooter on the wing and you’re going to be so fucked by the 3rd having space.[/quote]

For sure. Guys are killing to get on that squad. Miller is a nice fit. Good shooter, doesn’t need to be the main guy. As Flash mentioned, him and Bron are boys, so I think it will work out good.

So the possible starting 5 becomes:

Bron
Bosh
Wade
Miller
Chalmers

Pretty solid…
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Shit, you know they all wish Kapono was still there. And, I honestly think they’re gonna run James at the point. If they get Miller I see it as: PG-James, SG-Wade, SF-Miller, PF-Bosh, C-???. Obviously I could be wrong, but on this squad I see James as a set-up man. Or you could be right and they run James as a point-forward. Guess we’ll see.[/quote]

Yeah the 5 will be the issue. Even if Bosh plays center (or is assigned to the 5) they will be a pretty small team. CB4 isn’t a true center anyways, so I can see teams just going down low and dominating.

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:

Some people think they should go to heaven but NOT have to die to get there.

Sorry, but thatâ??s simply not how it works.

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MY POINT EXACTLY.

Now I actually have a team to root against next year. Thanks LeBron :slight_smile:

[quote]randman wrote:
Dude, let me enlighten you about the Blake signing strategy. It is absolutely the best move by the Lakers by a long shot to sign Blake first ahead of all three and let me tell you why.

When the Lakers look at their point guard situation, this is what they consider they’re ideal point guard in descending order of importance considering how they’re current team is set up with the triangle offense and the talent level that they have.

The ideal Lakers point guard has

#1 - a high basketball IQ
#2a - has defensive skills that can slow down other point guards
#2b - a pass first mentality
#3 - can knock down the long ball consistently at a high percentage

Farmar was never a good fit for the triangle offense and the Lakers have been as disappointed in his lack of growth as Farmar is with the Lakers triangle offense. He wants the ball in his hands as a typical point guard in the NBA today in pick and roll situations dictating a majority of the offense. He scores ok on #1, mediocre on #2a, mediocre to bad on #2b, and putrid on #3. Farmar is a little more athletic than Blake and can finish at the rim better but Blake is more consistent in decision making and tougher on defense.

Brown is not even a point guard so I’m not going to break him down. That being said, the Lakers will still have room to bring back Fisher (at a discount) and Brown unless some other team overpays him but not all three (Fish, Brown, and Farmar). Brown is the most athletic and he can definitely still play a useful utility role with the Lakers but Blake’s value far outweights Browns if you had to choose between the two for what the Lakers actually need at the PG position.

Fisher ranks best in these 4 aforementioned criteria ahead of Farmar and Brown and that’s why he got a majority of the minutes last year. That being said, Blake is 31/32 years old (2 years younger than Fisher) and can play 30 + minutes a night; giving Fish some needed rest. Blake still ranks higher than Fisher considering the four criteria I laid out but Fisher has an untouchable leadership role with the Lakers and playoff experience where he rises to the occasion.

So it’s not an either/or with Fisher and Blake. But by signing Blake first, the Lakers get a guarantee of not being left high and dry with none of their existing three guards (Fisher, Brown or Farmar). The Lakers just don’t want to pay Fisher another $10 million/ 2 year deal. They offered a 1 year/$2.5 mil deal. I believe both sides will work it out.

So it will be Fisher and Blake complementing each other. I don’t even know who will start and who will be back up at this point but I think it’s moot. The point is that signing Blake was a brilliant signing by the Lakers and he ranks high on all four criteria for what the Lakers need going into next year at the point guard position.

Does that clear it up for you? ;0[/quote]

Great answer, no disagreement.

Ive since been reminded that Blake doesnt turn the ball over much either, which Phil and staff obviously value

this is just crazy!

.greg.

[quote]tmoney1 wrote:
Not trying to be a homer, but I think Durant just locked up the next few scoring titles.[/quote]

True

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Shit, you know they all wish Kapono was still there. .[/quote]

heh he’s a great fit now

I know its early but who are you guys going to be rooting for next season.

I’m going for my usuals: San Antonio, Boston and possibly Dallas.

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
I know its early but who are you guys going to be rooting for next season.

I’m going for my usuals: San Antonio, Boston and possibly Dallas.[/quote]

THUNDER!!!

That’s it

LeBron is now pretty much hated everywhere except Miami by nearly every one.

BREAKING NEWS: Mike Miller to MIA, 5 yrs/30M

I think Miami will go for a defense first point guard next. They are much cheaper than bigs generally these days. Then they play ? at point, Wade, Miller, James (point-forward in half court), and Bosh at center. James is heavier and stronger than most centers in the league. I think they’ll be fine.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see that Pittman kid they drafted do well taking up space as a big body, they’d clearly prefer to sign a veteran C but I don’t think they’re completely empty with him(he reminds me of Big Baby who has developed into a solid ass player who just happens to come off the bench because Perkins also developed into a more than serviceable big).

I really think you guys are crazy to really think this team won’t win championships. These 3 players have more basketball IQ between them than whole teams. THEY WILL FIGURE IT OUT.

[quote]therajraj wrote:
I really think you guys are crazy to really think this team won’t win championships. These 3 players have more basketball IQ between them than whole teams. THEY WILL FIGURE IT OUT.

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It’s not that easy. Just check recent history for US Olympic basketball failures. You always…ALWAYS need the right complimentary players to win championships. Teams on paper look great because on paper, you don’t need to share the ball, execute, play defense, rebound, make stops, make shots, have good coaching, etc.

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
I really think you guys are crazy to really think this team won’t win championships. These 3 players have more basketball IQ between them than whole teams. THEY WILL FIGURE IT OUT.

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It’s not that easy. Just check recent history for US Olympic basketball failures. You always…ALWAYS need the right complimentary players to win championships. Teams on paper look great because on paper, you don’t need to share the ball, execute, play defense, rebound, make stops, make shots, have good coaching, etc. [/quote]

Bingo. And, for all their talk about being unselfish and welcoming the bullseye this has potential for a massive implosion. Basketball is still a team sport and James has been pretty unwilling to share up to this point, so why is everyone so ready to believe he’ll do it now?

I can easily see this not working out the way they planned, LeBron pointing fingers and not taking responsibility, Wade getting frustrated and the whole thing culminating in an epic meltdown. The preside these dudes have just put on themselves is truly at unprecedented levels, and I don’t think they (or even us) understand how crazy this can and will get.

The comment that sticks out for me after all the talking heads were finished lastnight was the one where (I think it was Mike W) that James might have to be like Magic was with the Lakers. I thought that was pretty interesting.

If I was was chapstick I would be calling Lebron up. He looked very uncomfortable lastnight to say the least and had a really bad case of dry mouth lol.

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:

Overall, I don’t like this entire free agency so far just because all the talent has been distributed so unevenly. [/quote]

SAME HERE.

It would have been better if they all went on different teams, hell even the same teams they were on already. NJ just got owned, NY embarrassed themselves for the second time in 5 years over trying to land LeBron, TO is rebuilding again, and so is Cleveland. All of those teams got owned so that Miami could have a team full with 3 marquee dudes.

It’s bad enough that you only have to be a .500 team to make the Eastern Conference Playoffs, but now it’ll be even worse than that, like it was a few years back. Boston, Orlando, Miami. The other teams don’t matter. Make no mistake, this is BAD for the league, and makes things less interesting as a whole for us.