That’s an interesting move. Are they going to end up moving Farmar and having Blake come off the bench, or is Fisher maybe not coming back, or just stockpiling good guards?[/quote]
Farmar wants to have the ball in his hands like a traditional point guard in pick and roll scenarios, he wants more money, he wants more relevance. I knew he was as good as gone before they won the championship. The Lakers also will have no love lost here. He just really never did fill in the PG role well for the Lake Show. They Lakers actually allowed him to become a FA now.
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
According to Comcast Sports Chicago on Twitter, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh are together at the office of their agent, Henry Thomas, along with Chicago Bulls management on Friday night.This is obviously getting uglier for the Heat by the minute. And you also have to wonder if LeBron would also be there if he was in Chicago and not Cleveland. And speaking of LeBron, his swap to make his meeting with the Bulls his final one? It’s looking like a bigger part of the story than ever. At this point, we wouldn’t be surprised if all three players agree to take lower, matching salaries to somehow make a deal work, but that’s obviously just speculation.[/quote]
Wade’s not going anywhere man. He’s staying in Miami and Bosh is probably joining him there. And, like I’ve been saying this whole time I still think James signs with Jersey or a short deal with the Cavs and see’s what’s out there in 3 years. All this talk by big names about taking less money and a smaller role to win is absolute bullshit. The only guy I can see that would even be somewhat ok with sharing the spotlight [and ball] is Wade, and none of us know if that’s actually the case or not. Bosh has made it pretty clear he doesn’t see himself as a #2, so if he does sign in his mind it’s a 1 & 1A kinda thing. And James? That guy has the biggest ego on the planet and is clearly not ok with anyone getting any of his shine. All these dudes are doing is posturing to let their respective teams sweeten the pot. Also, if Bosh winds up with soeone else I bet dollars to donuts it’s Wade, not James.
All this does is lock up money for several years while keeping the ball clubs in limbo: Too good to get high draft picks, not good enough to contend and not enough money to sign big FA’s that push them into contention. It’s a really shitty business move all the way around.[/quote]
You should be a preacher because this is gospel right here.[/quote]
Haha, I’ll look into it. I just don’t understand what these teams are thinking. Especially Atlanta. Yeah it’s a “smaller” market, but Atlanta is like black man’s paradise. I’m pretty sure they could get some ball players if their money was right. Keepng a guy on because he’s the face of the franchise makes no sense when the franchise has chronically underachieved during his time there. And Memphis? Rudy gay has a bright future, but he is nowhere near a max deal player. That is fucking ridiculous to give him that when he wouldn’t have gotten 2/3rd’s of that elsewhere.
All this does is lock up money for several years while keeping the ball clubs in limbo: Too good to get high draft picks, not good enough to contend and not enough money to sign big FA’s that push them into contention. It’s a really shitty business move all the way around.[/quote]
You should be a preacher because this is gospel right here.[/quote]
Haha, I’ll look into it. I just don’t understand what these teams are thinking. Especially Atlanta. Yeah it’s a “smaller” market, but Atlanta is like black man’s paradise. I’m pretty sure they could get some ball players if their money was right. Keepng a guy on because he’s the face of the franchise makes no sense when the franchise has chronically underachieved during his time there. And Memphis? Rudy gay has a bright future, but he is nowhere near a max deal player. That is fucking ridiculous to give him that when he wouldn’t have gotten 2/3rd’s of that elsewhere.[/quote]
I think a lot of it has to do with GMs and their own jobs. A GM may have a 5 year contract, and if his team is average or looks like it has potential at the end he might get a contract renewal, whereas if it’s shit then he wont.
So when a budding start or just below elite guy like Johnson wants to leave, to the GM he’s worth a lot more than just what he contributes to the team. If he leaves to get overpaid elsewhere it may be good in the long run for the team, as they aren’t trapped and can sign good players/ a superstar when an opportunity arises for them a few years later. It’s just that opportunity might happen with a new GM after the team suffers for a year or two.
Which means Johnson get max money, the Hawks will probably be stuck being a 45-50 win team [or worse] instead of doing what’s right and not overpaying. But the guy who designs the contracts has better job security.
Did y’all hear Johnson won’t sign with Atlanta until he sees what everyone else does? Think it’s all for show, but if he did sign somewhere else for [way] less money to be on a winner I think it’d be one of the more honorable things I’ve seen a pro athlete do.
Bosh says he’s done with meetings, as is LeBron and Wade. Amar’e big offer from NYK (5 yrs/100M).
Next week is when guys are looking to sign, so when one guy signs (which everyone is waiting on LeBron) it’ll break out into an avalanche of signings).
Paul Pierce set to sign four-year extension with BOS. Knew he wasn’t going anywhere.
[quote]tmoney1 wrote:
Bosh says he’s done with meetings, as is LeBron and Wade. Amar’e big offer from NYK (5 yrs/100M).
Next week is when guys are looking to sign, so when one guy signs (which everyone is waiting on LeBron) it’ll break out into an avalanche of signings).
Paul Pierce set to sign four-year extension with BOS. Knew he wasn’t going anywhere.[/quote]
Apparently LeBron is expected to make a decision by Thursday. I don’t know what the basis of that expectation is, but yeah.
I don’t know what the money is for the Pierce deal, but I’m going to assume it’s a pay cut from the 20+ million he would have made had he kept the last year of his old deal. And with that, they have enough money to resign Allen, assuming he knows that he has to take a pay cut due to his declining performance. I think Allen’s a pretty smart guy and will. Boston’s still a title contender.
Article on why an LBJ-Wade-Bosh superteam would be bad for the League and LeBron. Most of it was just decent, but what interested me was this:
[quote]
If James goes to Miami, he risks always being A-Rod to Dwyane Wade’s Jeter. Wade, like Derek Jeter, is a likable, future Hall of Famer who brought his fans a championship. James is more talented than Wade, just as Alex Rodriguez is more talented than Jeter. But James, like A-Rod, could be viewed as the cold, corporate mercenary who is simply using his employer to advance his own interests. [/quote]
Makes sense. Wade’s already won a title with them and is already that dude in Miami. If LeBron joined him it’d be exactly like A-Rod. He’d already have the bad will of everyone who saw him leave Cleveland, and if he didn’t win quick they’d hate his ass. Granted it’d be a little less harsh in Miami, than what A-Rod dealt with in NY.
[quote]tmoney1 wrote:
Bosh says he’s done with meetings, as is LeBron and Wade. Amar’e big offer from NYK (5 yrs/100M).
Next week is when guys are looking to sign, so when one guy signs (which everyone is waiting on LeBron) it’ll break out into an avalanche of signings).
Paul Pierce set to sign four-year extension with BOS. Knew he wasn’t going anywhere.[/quote]
Apparently LeBron is expected to make a decision by Thursday. I don’t know what the basis of that expectation is, but yeah.
I don’t know what the money is for the Pierce deal, but I’m going to assume it’s a pay cut from the 20+ million he would have made had he kept the last year of his old deal. And with that, they have enough money to resign Allen, assuming he knows that he has to take a pay cut due to his declining performance. I think Allen’s a pretty smart guy and will. Boston’s still a title contender. [/quote]
D-Line might be Thurs. because LeBron is holding his Nike Skills camp pretty soon, which brings forth the best HS prospects, at the AKRON University. What the logical speculation is is that if LeBron makes a decision soon i.e before the camp then, he’s going to be a Cavalier. Think about it, he can’t say he’s signing with the Knicks 1 day before his Skills camp which is in Ohio.
Firstly, it would be disrespectful, which is inside the realm of any high paid spoiled professional athlete and secondly, issues of security. LeBron saying bye bye to Cleveland and still having the audacity to be Ohio after the news would anger a lot of people. So much so that I’d imagine some would want to ‘fuck him up.’
Article on why an LBJ-Wade-Bosh superteam would be bad for the League and LeBron. Most of it was just decent, but what interested me was this:
[quote]
If James goes to Miami, he risks always being A-Rod to Dwyane Wade’s Jeter. Wade, like Derek Jeter, is a likable, future Hall of Famer who brought his fans a championship. James is more talented than Wade, just as Alex Rodriguez is more talented than Jeter. But James, like A-Rod, could be viewed as the cold, corporate mercenary who is simply using his employer to advance his own interests. [/quote]
Makes sense. Wade’s already won a title with them and is already that dude in Miami. If LeBron joined him it’d be exactly like A-Rod. He’d already have the bad will of everyone who saw him leave Cleveland, and if he didn’t win quick they’d hate his ass. Granted it’d be a little less harsh in Miami, than what A-Rod dealt with in NY.[/quote]
I find this excerpt funny because the suggestion that Dwayne Wade is likable, especially to the Jeter standard is berserk, for lack of a better word. We’re talking about a second grade character is D-Wade. The man just had a nasty divorce with his wife whose throwing around all these allegations about him like how he sleeps around, doesn’t give a shit about his son etc…
Maybe he’s well liked in Miami because this is the city Miami Vice was set in but theres no doubt in my mind LeBron could come into South Beach and quickly become the face of Miami with his charisma. Lets face it, Jeter is charismatic, Wade isn’t.
[quote]tmoney1 wrote:
Bosh says he’s done with meetings, as is LeBron and Wade. Amar’e big offer from NYK (5 yrs/100M).
Next week is when guys are looking to sign, so when one guy signs (which everyone is waiting on LeBron) it’ll break out into an avalanche of signings).
Paul Pierce set to sign four-year extension with BOS. Knew he wasn’t going anywhere.[/quote]
Apparently LeBron is expected to make a decision by Thursday. I don’t know what the basis of that expectation is, but yeah.
I don’t know what the money is for the Pierce deal, but I’m going to assume it’s a pay cut from the 20+ million he would have made had he kept the last year of his old deal. And with that, they have enough money to resign Allen, assuming he knows that he has to take a pay cut due to his declining performance. I think Allen’s a pretty smart guy and will. Boston’s still a title contender. [/quote]
Yeah I remember LBJ saying something he wanted to sign somewhere by July 8 (which is Thursday) so we’ll see.
Pierce’s proposed deal is 4 yrs/$61M, so yes you’re right, it is a paycut. Re-signing Jesus would be big, albeit as you said will probably have to take a paycut as well. Allen would be best to re-sign with BOS than to shop his services elsewhere, because I don’t think a lot of clubs (if any) will want to take on his big salary as well as a guy who may only have a couple of years left to play.
[quote]tmoney1 wrote:
Bosh says he’s done with meetings, as is LeBron and Wade. Amar’e big offer from NYK (5 yrs/100M).
Next week is when guys are looking to sign, so when one guy signs (which everyone is waiting on LeBron) it’ll break out into an avalanche of signings).
Paul Pierce set to sign four-year extension with BOS. Knew he wasn’t going anywhere.[/quote]
Apparently LeBron is expected to make a decision by Thursday. I don’t know what the basis of that expectation is, but yeah.
I don’t know what the money is for the Pierce deal, but I’m going to assume it’s a pay cut from the 20+ million he would have made had he kept the last year of his old deal. And with that, they have enough money to resign Allen, assuming he knows that he has to take a pay cut due to his declining performance. I think Allen’s a pretty smart guy and will. Boston’s still a title contender. [/quote]
D-Line might be Thurs. because LeBron is holding his Nike Skills camp pretty soon, which brings forth the best HS prospects, at the AKRON University. What the logical speculation is is that if LeBron makes a decision soon i.e before the camp then, he’s going to be a Cavalier. Think about it, he can’t say he’s signing with the Knicks 1 day before his Skills camp which is in Ohio.
Firstly, it would be disrespectful, which is inside the realm of any high paid spoiled professional athlete and secondly, issues of security. LeBron saying bye bye to Cleveland and still having the audacity to be Ohio after the news would anger a lot of people. So much so that I’d imagine some would want to ‘fuck him up.’[/quote]
Good points. Doesn’t make sense for him to do that.
Alright, so LeBron has visited CLE, MIA, NJN, NYK, CHI and LAC. Who do you think is in/out of the running?
I can kinda see why he met with LAC (Davis, Gordon, B-Griff) but they seem to be the longest shot.
I’m still sticking with my prediction of NJN, but I’m wondering if he wants to start from the bottom of the league, or go somewhere that is ready to compete immediately.
CLE and NYK I feel have the same chance.
MIA looks to be intriguing with D-Wade for sure, maybe Bosh, and Pat Riley possibly going to coach them.
He met with CHI for the longest time frame (over 3 hours) and D-Wade/Bosh met with CHI on Friday (D-Wade’s second meeting with CHI in less than 24 hours) so maybe trying to pull something together there? Guess we’ll find out…
Okay so apparently the Skills camp is from the 5th to the 7th. Meaning if he announces his decisions later in the week the chances he stays in Cleveland is hypothetically lower.
Article on why an LBJ-Wade-Bosh superteam would be bad for the League and LeBron. Most of it was just decent, but what interested me was this:
I see where you’re coming from with Wade in Miami not being as popular as Jeter in NY, but I disagree with the rest. Neither Wade or Jeter a ‘charismatic’ on their own but they’re the sentimental favourites because they’ve brought titles to Miami/NY and they’re veterans there. Wade if he quits tomorrow can call his stay in Miami a success. If LeBron went to Miami it’d be exactly like A-Rod, but less intense. If they didn’t win a title people would be like “what did we get him for”, and would be a little harsh on him the way NY fans were to A-Rod before he won a title there.
And LeBron’s not charismatic, either. He’s well loved because he’s an exciting player to watch, like Wade, and he’s forged a strong bond with his team and city, like Wade. I know he likes to foster this image of being a multifaceted, corporate superstar or whatever, but I don’t actually think that helps his popularity either, like it would a Jay-Z or a Diddy. He’s a beloved player in the league despite that image he likes to have. If he leaves he’s no longer the the kid with a not so ideal upbringing, playing for his home state on a team that needs him in every way, and being a bright spot in one of the worst sports cities around. Other than the Nets and the Clippers, the other teams that want him will be fine as franchises without him.
If James leaves Cleveland people aren’t gonna like him like they used to. They wont feel bad for him when he loses, the way they do now. They’ll feel impatient instead. He’d better stay.
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
LeBron going to the Knicks would make them the NBA’s #1 franchise, rolling back the Lakers.[/quote]
They’re already Number 2, so it could happen. But you have to wonder if it’d be enough to push them to the top. It seems like they’ve already gotten as large as they can get. They’re like the Maple Leafs in hockey, it doesn’t matter if they win, they’ll still be popular as hell.