NBA Free Agency/Offseason: The Return

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[quote]randman wrote:

[quote]el pollo loco wrote:

Kobe- Pissed and moaned for a trade till the team got Pau
MJ- Pippen top 50 all time NBA player. Rodman was one of the better defenders in the league. WHo would lead that? Different situations
MJ- Again why would he leave? Everything is fine when you have weapons around you to win.
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Kobe is #1, Pau is #2
MJ is #1, Pippen is #2, Rodman is #3
Wade is #1, Lebron a pathetic #2. Lebron ain’t no #1 and never was. Couldn’t handle it. Your arguments are full of logic holes.
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The same Wade that hasn’t gotten his team past the first round in the last 4 years? Lebron is the number one on the team. Lebron is so pathetic the way he has broken records and carried a piss poor franchise. Lebron went to a place where he could win multiple championships. Staying cleveland would have resulted in futility and ruining a great career.

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[quote]el pollo loco wrote:
Kobe- Pissed and moaned for a trade till the team got Pau
MJ- Pippen top 50 all time NBA player. Rodman was one of the better defenders in the league. WHo would lead that? Different situations
MJ- Again why would he leave? Everything is fine when you have weapons around you to win.

Lebron not only got out of craptastic Cleveland,Ohio for warm south beach but he could set up his own dynasty. Anybody with some intelligence about basketball knows Lebron is the guy in miami not D-wade. Cleveland failed to give Lebron anything to work with. He carried that team an next year without him they will be a lottery team with a high chance at one of the top picks.[/quote]

Do you think Pippen being a top 50 player had anything to do with playing alongside the GOAT?

MJ didnt win a ring till his 7th season (LBJ just finished his seventh season)

LeBron didnt have weapons? The Cavs brought in tons of players for him to play with. They have the best record in the entire NBA to seasons in a row? How can you do that without weapons? James just choked/quit on the cavs in the playoffs. No one can deny he quit on the team and considering the DeLonte West thing I dont honestly blame him too much for being distracted.

and your statement about “anybody with some intelligence about basketball knows LeBron is the guy in miami not D-wade” is absolutely rediculous. Its Wade’s team. He won a championship there. He talked to Bosh and LeBron in the off season and said lets team up. Come to miami… James didnt create this team up Wade did.

I’m starting to think you’re Drewdines second account conveniently created this month and spouting off the same type of statements

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[quote]el pollo loco wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]sardines12 wrote:
Kobe took the easy way out by playing with Shaq and Pau. MJ took the easy way out playing with Pippen and Rodman. Magic took it easy playing with Kareem. Lebron should have stayed with thr great Mo Williams and Anderson Verajao then and only than can he be mentioned with the greats who had awesome teammates. See how stupid you sound.[/quote]

but to actually respond to your post (as if you are a serious contributor)

Kobe didn’t leave his team to go join up with Shaq or Pau.

MJ didn’t leave his team to go play with Pippen or Rodman.

Magic didn’t leave his team to go play with Kareem.

Do you see a reoccurring theme here? None of these great players left their team to go somewhere else and try to win. (which is what james did)[/quote]
Kobe- Pissed and moaned for a trade till the team got Pau
MJ- Pippen top 50 all time NBA player. Rodman was one of the better defenders in the league. WHo would lead that? Different situations
MJ- Again why would he leave? Everything is fine when you have weapons around you to win.

Lebron not only got out of craptastic Cleveland,Ohio for warm south beach but he could set up his own dynasty. Anybody with some intelligence about basketball knows Lebron is the guy in miami not D-wade. Cleveland failed to give Lebron anything to work with. He carried that team an next year without him they will be a lottery team with a high chance at one of the top picks.[/quote]

Amen finally an intelligent person. But watch out of you don’t join the Kobe dick sucking patrol you’re a troll.

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[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]el pollo loco wrote:
Kobe- Pissed and moaned for a trade till the team got Pau
MJ- Pippen top 50 all time NBA player. Rodman was one of the better defenders in the league. WHo would lead that? Different situations
MJ- Again why would he leave? Everything is fine when you have weapons around you to win.

Lebron not only got out of craptastic Cleveland,Ohio for warm south beach but he could set up his own dynasty. Anybody with some intelligence about basketball knows Lebron is the guy in miami not D-wade. Cleveland failed to give Lebron anything to work with. He carried that team an next year without him they will be a lottery team with a high chance at one of the top picks.[/quote]

Do you think Pippen being a top 50 player had anything to do with playing alongside the GOAT?

MJ didnt win a ring till his 7th season (LBJ just finished his seventh season)

LeBron didnt have weapons? The Cavs brought in tons of players for him to play with. They have the best record in the entire NBA to seasons in a row? How can you do that without weapons? James just choked/quit on the cavs in the playoffs. No one can deny he quit on the team and considering the DeLonte West thing I dont honestly blame him too much for being distracted.

and your statement about “anybody with some intelligence about basketball knows LeBron is the guy in miami not D-wade” is absolutely rediculous. Its Wade’s team. He won a championship there. He talked to Bosh and LeBron in the off season and said lets team up. Come to miami… James didnt create this team up Wade did.

I’m starting to think you’re Drewdines second account conveniently created this month and spouting off the same type of statements[/quote]

Bosh had no intention of going to cleveland it is a shithole and does not compare to south beach full of clubs and hot girls. Very few teams had the cap room to support 3 all stars. Wade won a championship 4 looong years ago. In a league that is what for you done me lately wade has not done much beside a frequent of one and dones in the playoffs. What weapons did they bring in for him? Old man Jamison? Shaq did nothing in cleveland to help them? Lebron is the best player in the league it is his team. Ya lebron is a real quitter when he popped off for 38/8/7 an the cavs still lost. MJ never needed to go find somebody to play with when he always had a go alongside him. Its not very competitive to stay in a place where if it wasn’t for you your team would be a lottery pick. Cleveland will be in the bottom 5 records in the league without lebron. Good luck with mo williams as your number 1.

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[quote]LarryDavid wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]LarryDavid wrote:
If he wanted to get past Boston he should have developed a better outside game. Boston’s D is perfect for stopping people trying to score from closer to the net, but they have no answer for good outside shooting. And anyone who say the last two games of that series knew that this was a man who was not confident him his shooting. He couldn’t score in the paint but he kept going there and resorted to some bad passes to get himself out of trouble.[/quote]

The above is wrong. Lebron lacks a midrange game. Every time he shoot from distance, he takes the pressure off the defense. He is either a 3 point shooter or heading to the hole. What he doesn’t do well is put a defender on his heels and pull up with a reliable 12 footer, or put a defender on his heels and draw a double and pass. HE NEEDS TO ASK SANTA FOR A MIDRANGE GAME TO BE BETTER. His outside shot is respectable. And obviously he can get to the hole - not anytime he wants, but nothing that smacks of “needing improvement”. An even better outside shot just makes his problem worse - letting the D off the hook. Which would you rather have to do? Get a hand in the face of an outside shooter or, defend that marvelous athlete against all 3 options?[/quote]

That’s what I meant, I must have worded it wrong. He needs a good mid-range shot AND he needs to have more confidence in his 3’s. He has a below average mid range shot and in his series against Boston he seemed afraid to take a jump shot, even from long range. I remember in the last game he made two straight 3s in a short span, then missed one and never took another jump shot.

And he really couldn’t do anything inside against Boston. They are too good at stopping people driving to the hole, and when the calls weren’t in James’ favour all he could do was make bad passes. Anybody who watched that series knew that by the last two games James [and a few others on the Cavs] could barely get a good shot close to the net and were looking at the refs to make calls. [/quote]

I don’t mean to quibble, but he doesn’t lack a good mid range shot. He is capable of hitting the 12 footer, or anywhere else for that matter. What he lacks is a MID RANGE GAME; putting a defender on his heels and making him play D and putting pressure on the rest of the team to play help defense. If he develops that ability, he will be unstoppable, and indefensible - and he will put a ton of pressure on the defense. Right now, every time he settles for that long jump shot (which of course is sometimes appropriate if its there and in the flow of the offense), he let’s the defense and the defender off the hook. If I were coaching, I’d settle for Lebron shooting those shots all day - not b/c he won’t make them, but because there is a big difference from him scoring 30 from downtown, and scoring 30 all over the court and putting the defense to tough decisions. Understand?

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[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[ That’s worse than when athletes call themselves “soldiers”. These people need to be more aware of their place in society. They’re entetainers. Highly paid entertainers[/quote]

yeah I cant stand that stuff man. Especially UFC fighter guys who say they’re “warriors.” “going to war.” “In a battle out there” I hate that shit. you’re not a fucking warrior going to war. Thats kind of a slap in the face to the real warriors who are overseas bleeding and dying so that these athletes can sit back here in the US and get paid a lot of money to play a sport. Its definitely a pet peeve of mine from since I’ve actually spent quite a bit of time overseas and seen/done things these “warriors” couldn’t even comprehend… Such bullshit.

Ok end Rant :slight_smile:

back to basketball[/quote]

Bad misinformed rant. Fighters ARE going to war. People die in the ring. People become permanently disabled in the ring. There is another man attempting to do you harm. Yes sir, it is war. It is combat. Period.[/quote]

bullshit… complete bullshit. You are wrong sir. they are highly paid entertainers not warriors.

here are the definitions of the words:
War:
noun
a state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state

Combat:
noun |�?k�¤m�?bat|
fighting between armed forces [/quote]

LOL well you are entitled to your opinion. Combat does not have to armed. You are nit picking. A man risks his life stepping in the ring. I take it you have never tasted such combat, or you wouldn’t speak as you do. Entertainment? Yes, to you, the fan sitting at home or in the cheap seats, but the men you’re watching are risking health and potentially life. And that sir, is a fact, not opinion. They have 11 year olds in Africa who will pick up and fire a AK47 and kill quite well. I’m not sure I’d term them “warriors”.

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[quote]el pollo loco wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]sardines12 wrote:
Kobe took the easy way out by playing with Shaq and Pau. MJ took the easy way out playing with Pippen and Rodman. Magic took it easy playing with Kareem. Lebron should have stayed with thr great Mo Williams and Anderson Verajao then and only than can he be mentioned with the greats who had awesome teammates. See how stupid you sound.[/quote]

but to actually respond to your post (as if you are a serious contributor)

Kobe didn’t leave his team to go join up with Shaq or Pau.

MJ didn’t leave his team to go play with Pippen or Rodman.

Magic didn’t leave his team to go play with Kareem.

Do you see a reoccurring theme here? None of these great players left their team to go somewhere else and try to win. (which is what james did)[/quote]
Kobe- Pissed and moaned for a trade till the team got Pau
MJ- Pippen top 50 all time NBA player. Rodman was one of the better defenders in the league. WHo would lead that? Different situations
MJ- Again why would he leave? Everything is fine when you have weapons around you to win.

Lebron not only got out of craptastic Cleveland,Ohio for warm south beach but he could set up his own dynasty. Anybody with some intelligence about basketball knows Lebron is the guy in miami not D-wade. Cleveland failed to give Lebron anything to work with. He carried that team an next year without him they will be a lottery team with a high chance at one of the top picks.[/quote]

they had 60 win seasons. he wasn’t given anything to work with? tell me you’re not serious.

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IMO I think Lebron has gotten waaaaaay too much hate for this move.

Maybe he doesn’t care about whether we armchair athletes include him in some arbitrary discussion of who is the GOAT? Perhaps all he wants is to win multiple championships and figured Miami was the fastest route to that goal.

And really…

Lets be honest, even if Lebron delivered in Cleveland and in the rest of his career he would never be chosen as the undisputed GOAT. Or will Kobe or any other player for the simple fact there will always be a huge camp that says MJ is and will always be the GOAT.

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[quote]el pollo loco wrote:
Wade does not miami they are a football town first. Wade won his championship on one of the most epic collapses of a team any championship series has ever seen. Wade won a championship 4 years ago with a still dominant Shaq. What has wades career been since? A bunch of one and dones and not getting it done in the playoffs. Lebron carried a bunch of misfits through the playoffs. Averaging triple double through the playoffs would be the only way for them to get it done and that is next to impossible. He left a shitty team and a shitty organization. Lebron is the 2 time defending MVP who carried a incredibly bad team for 7 years. His numbers in miami will be godly along with improved defense from not having to carry the entire offensive load.[/quote]

You are warping the past and current reality to suit your argument. Wade is one of the marquee players in the league. He won Miami a championship as the lead dog on that team. Yes, before Shaq. Everything I just wrote can’t even be argued so please don’t bother.

What has done since with the shit sandwich of a team he’s had the last few years? Is the a serious question? Does this somehow devalue his incredible talent?

I’m not going to argue whether Miami is a football or basketball town. You missed my point. From a basketball perspective, Wade does own Miami. And for good reason, he was the leader on that championship team and still super talented with crap surrounding him.

It’s like you’re saying that Lebron is going to come into town and be Derek Jeter all of a sudden and Dwayne is going to be Arod. Ain’t gonna happen.

Have you read anything in the offseason? Lebron says himself that he’s glad he doesn’t have to take the “lead dog” scoring roll and can play more of a facilitator. Wade has been and always will be top dog, head honcho, the man, the undisputed leader of that team.

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[quote]el pollo loco wrote:
The same Wade that hasn’t gotten his team past the first round in the last 4 years? Lebron is the number one on the team. Lebron is so pathetic the way he has broken records and carried a piss poor franchise. Lebron went to a place where he could win multiple championships. Staying cleveland would have resulted in futility and ruining a great career.[/quote]

Are you really trying to say that Wade’s supporting cast on Miami is somehow equivalent to Lebron James supporting cast in Cleveland the last few years. Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant would have definitely won a championship on Lebron’s team in one of the last couple of years. Lebron’s supporting cast has been WAY better than Wade’s.

I can’t believe your argument stance is that you are trying to denigrate Dwayne Fucking Wade. You’re kidding right? Is this the only way in your mind that you can reconcile Lebron’s punk ass bitch move to Wade’s TEAM?

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[quote]sardines12 wrote:
Amen finally an intelligent person. But watch out of you don’t join the Kobe dick sucking patrol you’re a troll.[/quote]

This is all about Lebron. You wanna twist it how you want. Look, drewdines has another troll friend on the interwebz now.

Their multiplying…

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[quote]randman wrote:

[quote]el pollo loco wrote:
The same Wade that hasn’t gotten his team past the first round in the last 4 years? Lebron is the number one on the team. Lebron is so pathetic the way he has broken records and carried a piss poor franchise. Lebron went to a place where he could win multiple championships. Staying cleveland would have resulted in futility and ruining a great career.[/quote]

Are you really trying to say that Wade’s supporting cast on Miami is somehow equivalent to Lebron James supporting cast in Cleveland the last few years. Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant would have definitely won a championship on Lebron’s team in one of the last couple of years. Lebron’s supporting cast has been WAY better than Wade’s.

I can’t believe your argument stance is that you are trying to denigrate Dwayne Fucking Wade. You’re kidding right? Is this the only way in your mind that you can reconcile Lebron’s punk ass bitch move to Wade’s TEAM?[/quote]
Bull Fucking Shit and you know it.

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[quote]therajraj wrote:
Lets be honest, even if Lebron delivered in Cleveland and in the rest of his career he would never be chosen as the undisputed GOAT. Or will Kobe or any other player for the simple fact there will always be a huge camp that says MJ is and will always be the GOAT.

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You still don’t understand the angle of where the harsh criticism comes from? Hmmm…Maybe it’s Lebron James self-proclaiming himself a KING. How bout how much he talks about himself in the 3rd person? How bout thousands of people that initially swooned over this guy when he first came into the league like he was already GOAT without winning anything yet? He and his clones and every fan who gets a hard-on waiting to crown the next GOAT was behind the setup for this avalanche of criticism. Did that ever occur to you?

The criticism is well justified and well founded. Don’t even mention GOAT or anything close to it and Lebron James in the same sentence after his career and career choices thus far. That conversation is dead…for good.

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CP3 Asks to be traded to the knicks before the season begins.

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/68279/20100721/report_paul_has_demanded_trade_to_knicks_magic_lakers/

edit: if i were pat riley, i would trade him for lebron

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[quote]randman wrote:

[quote]el pollo loco wrote:
Wade does not miami they are a football town first. Wade won his championship on one of the most epic collapses of a team any championship series has ever seen. Wade won a championship 4 years ago with a still dominant Shaq. What has wades career been since? A bunch of one and dones and not getting it done in the playoffs. Lebron carried a bunch of misfits through the playoffs. Averaging triple double through the playoffs would be the only way for them to get it done and that is next to impossible. He left a shitty team and a shitty organization. Lebron is the 2 time defending MVP who carried a incredibly bad team for 7 years. His numbers in miami will be godly along with improved defense from not having to carry the entire offensive load.[/quote]

You are warping the past and current reality to suit your argument. Wade is one of the marquee players in the league. He won Miami a championship as the lead dog on that team. Yes, before Shaq. Everything I just wrote can’t even be argued so please don’t bother.

What has done since with the shit sandwich of a team he’s had the last few years? Is the a serious question? Does this somehow devalue his incredible talent?

I’m not going to argue whether Miami is a football or basketball town. You missed my point. From a basketball perspective, Wade does own Miami. And for good reason, he was the leader on that championship team and still super talented with crap surrounding him.

It’s like you’re saying that Lebron is going to come into town and be Derek Jeter all of a sudden and Dwayne is going to be Arod. Ain’t gonna happen.

Have you read anything in the offseason? Lebron says himself that he’s glad he doesn’t have to take the “lead dog” scoring roll and can play more of a facilitator. Wade has been and always will be top dog, head honcho, the man, the undisputed leader of that team.[/quote]
What is Lebron supposed to say? Wade get out of my way its title time? Your ignorance is off the charts if you believe he was supposed to say anything else. They will look to Lebron the back to back MVP to lead them back to title town. Lebrons supporting cast has been terrible yet hes managed to have 60 win seasons and advance in the playoffs. Wade hasn’t managed to carry his team past the first round. The baseball comparison is horrid. It is hardly jeters team the legacy the yankees have and all the greats that have come through there. Jeter has less impact on the outcome of the game than a single player does in basketball. Lebron will be the deciding factor in more victories. Wade knows Lebron is the better player. Everybody knows lebron is the better player. He will lead the team. Wade owns miami till Lebron pops off a triple double an shows that he is the best player on the planet.

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[quote]randman wrote:

[quote]el pollo loco wrote:
The same Wade that hasn’t gotten his team past the first round in the last 4 years? Lebron is the number one on the team. Lebron is so pathetic the way he has broken records and carried a piss poor franchise. Lebron went to a place where he could win multiple championships. Staying cleveland would have resulted in futility and ruining a great career.[/quote]

Are you really trying to say that Wade’s supporting cast on Miami is somehow equivalent to Lebron James supporting cast in Cleveland the last few years. Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant would have definitely won a championship on Lebron’s team in one of the last couple of years. Lebron’s supporting cast has been WAY better than Wade’s.

I can’t believe your argument stance is that you are trying to denigrate Dwayne Fucking Wade. You’re kidding right? Is this the only way in your mind that you can reconcile Lebron’s punk ass bitch move to Wade’s TEAM?[/quote]

How good was Kobe when he had to play with crap players? The kwame brown and smush parker years that team went no where.

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[quote]el pollo loco wrote:

[quote]randman wrote:

[quote]el pollo loco wrote:
The same Wade that hasn’t gotten his team past the first round in the last 4 years? Lebron is the number one on the team. Lebron is so pathetic the way he has broken records and carried a piss poor franchise. Lebron went to a place where he could win multiple championships. Staying cleveland would have resulted in futility and ruining a great career.[/quote]

Are you really trying to say that Wade’s supporting cast on Miami is somehow equivalent to Lebron James supporting cast in Cleveland the last few years. Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant would have definitely won a championship on Lebron’s team in one of the last couple of years. Lebron’s supporting cast has been WAY better than Wade’s.

I can’t believe your argument stance is that you are trying to denigrate Dwayne Fucking Wade. You’re kidding right? Is this the only way in your mind that you can reconcile Lebron’s punk ass bitch move to Wade’s TEAM?[/quote]

How good was Kobe when he had to play with crap players? The kwame brown and smush parker years that team went no where. [/quote]

Shhhhh. Randman doesn’t want to talk about how Kobe couldn’t win 50 games without Shaq or Gasol.

Kobe’s alpha though bro. Totally fucking Alpha!

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[quote]el pollo loco wrote:
What is Lebron supposed to say? Wade get out of my way its title time? Your ignorance is off the charts if you believe he was supposed to say anything else.
[/quote]

I don’t even know what point your trying to make here. So ummm…ok.

The only one who says his supporting cast was terrible is you. You don’t have a 66 win season with a terrible supporting cast. In fact, you’re the favorite to win a championship yet the leader couldn’t lead so it didn’t happen. Lebron’s a follower, not a leader.

Yes, what part of “shit sandwich” for role players didn’t you understand? It still sounds like you’re trying to make a comparison between Wade’s supporting cast and Lebron’s the last few years. It’s not even close. Lebron’s supporting cast was way better. Stop trying to say otherwise. No one will agree with you on this very weak point. And you’re using this as the argument to say Wade ain’t nobody. Ok, a majority of sports fans out there all agree it’s Wade’s team, he won the championship as the lead dog, and he’s still one of the most talented players in the league. Your opinion is worthless.

Actually, it’s appropriate. And I guess dozens of sports analysts out there who write sports articles for a living are all way off base too because they have also used this analogy. Do I need to provide you with links to make my point or can you find them on your own? It’s obvious you don’t do much sports reading or listen to sports radio because these are not new novel ideas I’m sharing here.

I live with a die hard Yankees fan. She and every other Yankee fan will say it’s “Jeter’s team”. He’s their leader, not Arod. My point is even made further since you’re right, a single player in baseball does have less impact than in basektball and yet Yankee fans and many casual baseball fans still say it’s Jeter’s team, which means he’s the undisputed leader.

Yes, Arod was and is the better player than Jeter. But Jeter will have a special and much higher place in Yankees lore than Arod will by a long shot.

Dude, are you dense? I’ve already referenced the fact that Lebron himself says he’s glad he will not be the main scoring option, the guy who will have the ball at the end of the game in his hands. It will be Wade. Wade is the alpha of that team. The “Jeter” of the Yankees. Gaybron = Gayrod.

[quote]
Wade owns miami till Lebron pops off a triple double an shows that he is the best player on the planet.[/quote]

Did you just say “he is the best player on the planet” after he rips off a triple double??? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!! We are all witnesses!!!
The

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[quote]Douchebag and shithead wrote:
How good was Kobe when he had to play with crap players? The kwame brown and smush parker years that team went no where.

Shhhhh. Randman doesn’t want to talk about how Kobe couldn’t win 50 games without Shaq or Gasol.

Kobe’s alpha though bro. Totally fucking Alpha![/quote]

And we have another snake coming out of the woodwork. Umm ok. Once again. Kobe also had a shit sandwich of a support cast pre-Gasol days. Absolutely. He needed a good #2 go to guy and that was Gasol. What’s the controversy here? I’ve never said otherwise. Go back and reread everyone of my posts and I’ve never said you could win on your own.

The criticism of Lebron for the ten thousandth time is that he is not nor will be an Alpha Dog on a Dwayne Wade team. He couldn’t lead his team with 66 wins to a championship and he will not lead Wade’s team to a championship.

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[quote]randman wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
Lets be honest, even if Lebron delivered in Cleveland and in the rest of his career he would never be chosen as the undisputed GOAT. Or will Kobe or any other player for the simple fact there will always be a huge camp that says MJ is and will always be the GOAT.

[/quote]

You still don’t understand the angle of where the harsh criticism comes from? Hmmm…Maybe it’s Lebron James self-proclaiming himself a KING. How bout how much he talks about himself in the 3rd person? How bout thousands of people that initially swooned over this guy when he first came into the league like he was already GOAT without winning anything yet? He and his clones and every fan who gets a hard-on waiting to crown the next GOAT was behind the setup for this avalanche of criticism. Did that ever occur to you?

The criticism is well justified and well founded. Don’t even mention GOAT or anything close to it and Lebron James in the same sentence after his career and career choices thus far. That conversation is dead…for good.[/quote]
There was this guy in the past named King James OH SHIT!!! I wonder if that’s where his nickname came from.