NBA 2011-2012 Season Thread 2

[quote]therajraj wrote:
Am I the only one who was surprised by how much a difference Metta World War made even after so much time off?[/quote]

It was really his energy and effort that they missed. Bynum tends to disapear if he doesn’t get involved in the offense early, and Gasol, well, he will have his disapearing moments as well. Game 6 was proof enough, and Kobe said as much post-game, the rest of those guys don’t have the heart or will that Kobe himself has, but Metta certainly picks up the slack in that department.

[quote]Teledin wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
Two Game 7s in the first round!

Also Lebron is the MVP this year. Any disagreements?[/quote]

Unfortunately no. He really didn’t have much in the way of competition outside of Parker, Durant and Kobe. Unfortunately for Durant and Parker they are on deep teams, and Kobe didn’t have a career season either.[/quote]

I agree, an argument could probably have been made for Durant, but i don’t think this will be the last time those two are fighting for that prize. If Rose doesn’t have an injury plagued season he would most likely of been in the discussion, he will in the future i believe.

Its tough with Lebron because there just has never been anyone with his size, strength, speed, leaping ability, and skill set, the guy is going to be the front runner for MVP every year, its up to those other guys, Durant, Rose, etc to take it from him.

[quote]Aggv wrote:
Bynum needs to be boo’d HARD when he takes the floor for game7. [/quote]

I think Laker fans have seen Bynum before, his name was Lamar Odom, Lamar is one of the biggest fools gold players i think to ever play. The guy is 6’10 can play all 5 positions on the floor, but basically didn’t care, so much so that the Mavericks basically told him to go away! He worried more about eating candy and being a celebrity with a show.

Some guys just don’t get it, and worrying about it is pointless.

Every game in the NBA needs to be called like the clips V Grizz game 7 was today. They let them play, and it was amazing.

[quote]Aggv wrote:
Every game in the NBA needs to be called like the clips V Grizz game 7 was today. They let them play, and it was amazing. [/quote]

That was a great game. It reminded me of the palyoffs I grew up watching as a kid in the late 80’s early 90’s.

I watched the Heat/Pacers game too. Quite the opposite. I think if the Heat played in a game that was officiated like that, they wouldn’t have a chance.

Lebron and Wade score 42 of the Heats 53 points in the 2nd half. That’s crazy.

I’ve seriously underrated M. Gasol. Watching him yesterday, he’s one of the best defensive 5’s in the league. Active and smart, he was disrupting a lot of what the Clips were trying to do. On offense, almost every time he touched it, someone was getting an uncontested shot (either himself or a teammate). Frankly I think they would’ve had a shot if they went to him more down the stretch.

At the end of the day, if you can’t manufacture offense against the Clippers, you don’t deserve the 2nd round. Z-Bo was a nonfactor whereas last year, his dominance is what had them so competitive. Whether it’s because he’s still hurt or because of Rudy Gay’s presence in the lineup demanding touches, I don’t know.

Clips will get steamrolled by SAS.

[quote]scj119 wrote:

Clips will get steamrolled by SAS.[/quote]

What? No Lala land conference final circle jerk?

OKC-SAS conference final, OKC-MIA final and MIA takes it in 6

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]scj119 wrote:

Clips will get steamrolled by SAS.[/quote]

What? No Lala land conference final circle jerk?

OKC-SAS conference final, OKC-MIA final and MIA takes it in 6[/quote]

Did you make that prediction before or after hearing about Bosh’s injury? Heat might be in trouble.

[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]scj119 wrote:

Clips will get steamrolled by SAS.[/quote]

What? No Lala land conference final circle jerk?

OKC-SAS conference final, OKC-MIA final and MIA takes it in 6[/quote]

Did you make that prediction before or after hearing about Bosh’s injury? Heat might be in trouble.[/quote]

That kills them. Not that Bosh is that good, but his replacements are that bad.

Anthony/Haslem/Juwan Howard all get increased minutes now. yeesh.

Actually wouldn’t be surprised to see MIA go small a lot with Bosh out. Leave Anthony or Haslem at the 5, LBJ at the 4, and some combo of Wade/Miller/Jones/Chalmers fill out the other 3 spots.

[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]scj119 wrote:

Clips will get steamrolled by SAS.[/quote]

What? No Lala land conference final circle jerk?

OKC-SAS conference final, OKC-MIA final and MIA takes it in 6[/quote]

Did you make that prediction before or after hearing about Bosh’s injury? Heat might be in trouble.[/quote]

I did, but when I read abdominal strain I figured it wasn’t that serious. Maybe a game or 2. Is really going to miss anymore than than the 2nd round?

[quote]scj119 wrote:

Not that Bosh is that good, but his replacements are that bad.

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I would say Bosh is a top 25 player. Pretty silly statement to say he isn’t that good.

[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]scj119 wrote:

Clips will get steamrolled by SAS.[/quote]

What? No Lala land conference final circle jerk?

OKC-SAS conference final, OKC-MIA final and MIA takes it in 6[/quote]

Did you make that prediction before or after hearing about Bosh’s injury? Heat might be in trouble.[/quote]

If they don’t have a healthy Bosh, they might not even make to the Finals. Also, there’s no way they’re even giving OKC a fight without him.

[quote]scj119 wrote:
Actually wouldn’t be surprised to see MIA go small a lot with Bosh out. Leave Anthony or Haslem at the 5, LBJ at the 4, and some combo of Wade/Miller/Jones/Chalmers fill out the other 3 spots.[/quote]

Miami played much better yesterday without Bosh.

Indiana could have easily won that game. They kinda blew it in the second half.

It seems like Bosh has gone from highly overrated to highly underrated. Because he’s not as good as LBJ and Wade but gets paid the same, the perception of his abilities have been dragged through the mud.

If the heatles go small, i think the pacers should go big and pound the ball inside with hibbert.

[quote]therajraj wrote:
It seems like Bosh has gone from highly overrated to highly underrated. Because he’s not as good as LBJ and Wade but gets paid the same, the perception of his abilities have been dragged through the mud.[/quote]

He’s not nearly the player he was in Toronto. He’s basically a spot up shooter now. I realized LBJ and Wade take up possessions but his free throw rate, ts% , offensive/defensive rebounding have all plummeted while somehow he still turns it over just as frequently.

There are plenty of PFs in the game who could average 18/8 on that Miami team. Bosh, while not as bad on D as everyone thinks, isn’t exactly all-defense either.

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]scj119 wrote:
Actually wouldn’t be surprised to see MIA go small a lot with Bosh out. Leave Anthony or Haslem at the 5, LBJ at the 4, and some combo of Wade/Miller/Jones/Chalmers fill out the other 3 spots.[/quote]

Miami played much better yesterday without Bosh.

Indiana could have easily won that game. They kinda blew it in the second half.[/quote]

Indiana has David West at the 4; better than serviceable for sure, but it’s not exactly KG(who seems to be playing some rejuvenated ball in the playoffs), or Duncan/Griffen, or the LA/OKC frontlines they’ll see in the finals if they get there.

Joel Anthony and Ronny Turiaf are not giving you the quality 30+ minutes Bosh would, so either the Heat need Haslem to step his game way up like he did last year around this same time, or one of the other skill players as scj mentioned.

Playing 1 half with a guy down is totally different than playing entire series, both emotionally and physically(guys can ‘step it up’ and play some inspired ball a lot easier for 24 minutes than 360).

I wonder if LAL will be able to steal one tonight. OKC hasn’t played a game in years and LAL is in the swing of things.

Lets go Lakers!

We need to keep playing inside out. OKC can’t handle the bigs.