[quote]Ross_AlanUSN10 wrote:
Cyco… you say longterm suppression. Now what are we talking in terms of recovery time. Thats kinda why I mentioned a test taper pct… what would be a sufficient rebound protocol for a long ass cycle like that? would you be forced into trt for the rest of your days? Haha or could u get your natural back after a dedicated long post cycle[/quote]
well, the shorter the cycle, the quicker guys seem to recover. 8-10 weeks is pretty easy. 12 is okay, but we start to see issues at 16 weeks and longer… (smart use of an AI and HCG can reduce risk, but it’s still there)
27 weeks is asking for trouble, IMO. especially for a spec ops guy, who has all sorts of other stressors that can wreck their endocrine system…
if one were planning a cycle that long, then i’d plan on being on a TRT dose for life…
FWIW, i started a thread on some PCT ideas a while back: Thoughts on Planning PCT - Pharma - Forums - T Nation
I know the life of test E and Cyp thank you very much. half life is what I would be concerned with during hell week.
Why do you need AICAR with GW? i don’t know shit about that.
what is pre buds in chicago?
deca and anavar would be great for performance and recovery no doubt. yeah winny would hurt like hell and make you stiff.
how did those guys get busted in 3rd phase? that’s what I’m the most interested in.
nah man, this is a cool discussion. Hijack away 
yeah deca would be great, but for me it fucks with my head way too much. IDGAF about sexual sides. you’re right it would be a moot point.
How did they get caught in third phase?
Yeah keeping it in the car would be a good idea I guess.
anyone here have experience with GW, I’ve heard and read it gives crazy stamina. I’ve also heard it can make you feel like shit, similar to clen.
bro, you have to be A MORON to have shit in your drawers. #mygawd. and I’d rather die than give up my friends. that means, you tell no one. Sounds like if you’re off base, don’t gain too much and don’t make it obvious you are on gear you’re set. when do they do the drug tests for stuff? at the end or begining of buds?
Ok so… just read through this wholeeeee entire thread and its exactly what ive been looking for. not a lot of douche bags saying “you shouldn’t use gear.” Anyways, as I was reading through this i kept seeing “hypothetically”. I actually want to join BUD/s and am going to give it a try in 2-3 years. I am finishing college first and then am going to join and try to go in the Navy as an officer and then test my Manhood at BUD/s. so yea lets go hypothetically i guess because i might just stick with my officer position but BUD/s would be the ultimate test of my mind and willpower to keep going even when i want to quit and i really want to test that and see if I can make it through and be one of the few Elite task force members for fuckin 'MERICA BABY!!! go and kill some those isis sons of bitches 
LETS GET ON WITH MY FUGGIN QUESTION:
what if anything would increase my edurance output for when the pool evolutions come? i think running and all that I will be fine. but yea i want to be a force to be reckoned with.
as of right now I am 20 years old, 6 foot 4.5 inches, 225-230lbs lean, only sups ive taken is creatine so all of this will be new to my body. I had shoulder arthroscopic surgery to clear out some frayed tissue like 2 years ago and was gonna get HGH to recover faster but i was back fully recovered in like 2 months and then i bought Test P and Nolva and Clomid and a Sarm that i was planning on taking but never ended up doing it. So as of right now i can honestly say im Natty but idgaf about that shit i will take Gear without second thoughts…
OK so my real question is… Honestly, if you were going to buds, what would you take for both strength and endurance and when would you take them and how would you take them and not get caught?
i love seeing people think muscular strength alone will help you on the tip of the spear.
are you even in the military or some some fuckface kid speculating steroids to complete what everyone does with grit and will.
fuck you.
i’d drag you by your throat in front of your sm myself if i knew you
Well if you could read, you fuck stick… You could see that I said I am finishing up college first and then am going to enter as a Navy Officer and then try and give it a shot at BUD/s with the hopes of making it. I was asking around to get some opinions like any smart and educated person should do before going into something blindly. As I wrote in my post above… and again, if you could read “fuckface” as you would call it… I said I am 20 years old, 6’4" and between 225-230lbs. And I am asking around to further my knowledge because I have never taken any pro hormones or steroids before, so I’m doing my research. You speak of grit and will, yet you are the one sitting behind your keyboard trying to bring me down, when I am actually going to join the Navy and try and make it at BUD/s. If you say “oh well fuck you, you’re never going to make it”… How many SEALs who actually made it through BUD/s (plus the 6-12 months training after BUD/s that candidates have to do before they are pinned with the Trident and now can say they are SEALs… in case you didn’t know “fuckface” 
) do you think were told they weren’t going to make it? So as of right now, I have more “grit and will” than you have. Will I make it as a SEAL? That my friend is entirely in the hands of God. Im not trying to sound like a dick here, but when you say you would drag me by the throat (good luck)… I don’t take too kindly to those words.