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i would say that the dietary changes may not help directly, but how do you expect a child’s body to function normally with poor nutrition?

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I said it first! No fair.

Oh well.

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I order to not leave diesel out, my first sentence in my last post should be subbed for the following.

Phill

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Morg,

Unless you are completely certain that these “dietary changes” you suggest will be not only helpful, but also not harmful to this child, keep your trap shut.

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morg, your opinion of what good nutrition entails is debatable.

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t4, yes, i am completely certain, and ceegeebee, could you please be more specific?

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Thanks everyone for your responses. I really appreciate everyone in taking time out to help me.

To answer a few of the posts:

  1. Yes his health is very important thats why I didn’t want to jump right into taking GH replacement if something else could be done.
  2. GH is a last resort and will be our course of action if in the next few months we don’t find what we are looking for. (Naturally overcoming his lack of GH production)
  3. Yes for the last few months I’ve read hundreds of abstracts pertaining to this subject.
  4. My son prior to this was active during spring with soccer and summer with baseball. We added athletics in the fall and winter.
  5. His diet unfortunatly was like the typical kid. Too much white flour and too much sugar

Just to give a little more background.

My wife and I have read much about the Endocrine System. (Sometimes after speaking with so called experts on the subject, we feel we have acctually read more than they have.)

Since our search has started we have discovered a few important things.

  1. IGF and igfbp-3 are extremly important for children with regards to growth. (Research on Pygmies show that IGF (insulin like growth factor) is more important for growth in adolescents than any other age group)
  2. IGF levels elevate higher with high protein diets. (Carbs in a few studies have shown know effect on IGF.)
  3. Saturated fat will cause IGF levels to go low.
  4. Too much exercise can cause low levels of IGF in children.
  5. Milk raises IGF levels
  6. Many more things but too many to type.

Thanks everyone and good luck with your bodybuilding

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One point of focus besides diet would be his sleep. Is he getting 12 hours a night. There are some guidelines on the amount of sleep a child needs per night. I am not going to reference anything because I can’t quite remember but I believe I have read when I was investigating GH that the body has higher levels of GH at night. Also during periods when insulin is not present in the blood stream. Good luck, and I hope you get the help and support that you need!

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While I agree with goldie in the fact that diet will have fuck all of an effect on gh secretion, one of hte most common cuases of reduced growth is nutrient/caloric basis.

[quote]Breakfast:
Whole Egg
8oz Milk
Shredded wheat cereal

Lunch (For lunch we generally let him pick every other day) This day he picked
PBJ
8 oz Milk
Raw Carrots and Celery

Dinner:
Rotissere Chicken
Salad
Ranch Dressing
8oz Milk
[/quote]Where is the calories? where are the nutrients? fruits, veges, meats, nuts etc. Growing is an extremely energy costly business. While the growth at this age is not as large as in adolescence, and that is no where near sa much as 0-2years.

How is his bodyweight in relation to his height? (percentile or change in percentile?)

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maybe everyone else just got really tall?