Natural Bodybuilders at Lean 220?

[quote]archilles2 wrote:
Can anyone attest to knowing any large NATURAL body builders with the above
qualities ? IF so, happy to hear from you.

Very rarely have seen or known anyone to have reached these qualities NATURALLY

  • ( I.E.NO DRUGS) .

I see alot of naturals that look big, but not OLYMPIA big. Most think it’s impossible
,anyone disagree? [/quote]

Your post makes no sense. There is a HUGE difference between lean 220 and “OLYMPIA big”. You will never be olympia big without drugs. I think lean 220 isn’t very difficult, i’m cutting down to 220 from 240 and im not carrying alot of bodyfat either.

[quote]Hallowed wrote:
^^^
You should see his before and after.

Yeah, Gregs pretty awesome.[/quote]

Thanks hallowed… You’re gonna make a guy blush over here.

I can post a pic tomorrow in here if you’re really interested OP but as you can tell from the responses in this thread, a contest shape 220 @ 5’8-5’11" isn’t going to happen as a natty.

Intact a contest shape 220 @ 5’8-5’11 would be damn good for a non natty competitor lol

You’re right, I have never seen or heard of a natural that is 220lb OLYMPIA BIG/CONTEST BIG.

What i was asking is if anyone knows of anyone like that or has these qualities themselves
( natural )?

I’ll be honest, i have thought of going on afew cycles myself, and wouldn’t completely rule it out, however i would be very happy if i could hit 220lb LEAAAAAANNNNN.

True, it will not be Olympia/Contest big, however at this stage i’m not interested in competing or having the " super cut skin tight contest look "

I would honestly be happy reaching 220lb LEAN NATURALLY, even if my body doesn’t look contest.

Would you say that is achievable ?

[quote]Mr. Zero wrote:

[quote]archilles2 wrote:
Can anyone attest to knowing any large NATURAL body builders with the above
qualities ? IF so, happy to hear from you.

Very rarely have seen or known anyone to have reached these qualities NATURALLY

  • ( I.E.NO DRUGS) .

I see alot of naturals that look big, but not OLYMPIA big. Most think it’s impossible
,anyone disagree? [/quote]

Your post makes no sense. There is a HUGE difference between lean 220 and “OLYMPIA big”. You will never be olympia big without drugs. I think lean 220 isn’t very difficult, i’m cutting down to 220 from 240 and im not carrying alot of bodyfat either.[/quote]

[quote]archilles2 wrote:
You’re right, I have never seen or heard of a natural that is 220lb OLYMPIA BIG/CONTEST BIG.

What i was asking is if anyone knows of anyone like that or has these qualities themselves
( natural )?

I’ll be honest, i have thought of going on afew cycles myself, and wouldn’t completely rule it out, however i would be very happy if i could hit 220lb LEAAAAAANNNNN.

True, it will not be Olympia/Contest big, however at this stage i’m not interested in competing or having the " super cut skin tight contest look "

I would honestly be happy reaching 220lb LEAN NATURALLY, even if my body doesn’t look contest.

Would you say that is achievable ?

[quote]Mr. Zero wrote:

[quote]archilles2 wrote:
Can anyone attest to knowing any large NATURAL body builders with the above
qualities ? IF so, happy to hear from you.

Very rarely have seen or known anyone to have reached these qualities NATURALLY

  • ( I.E.NO DRUGS) .

I see alot of naturals that look big, but not OLYMPIA big. Most think it’s impossible
,anyone disagree? [/quote]

Your post makes no sense. There is a HUGE difference between lean 220 and “OLYMPIA big”. You will never be olympia big without drugs. I think lean 220 isn’t very difficult, i’m cutting down to 220 from 240 and im not carrying alot of bodyfat either.[/quote]
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Yes.

[quote]ebomb5522 wrote:

[quote]archilles2 wrote:
You’re right, I have never seen or heard of a natural that is 220lb OLYMPIA BIG/CONTEST BIG.

What i was asking is if anyone knows of anyone like that or has these qualities themselves
( natural )?

I’ll be honest, i have thought of going on afew cycles myself, and wouldn’t completely rule it out, however i would be very happy if i could hit 220lb LEAAAAAANNNNN.

True, it will not be Olympia/Contest big, however at this stage i’m not interested in competing or having the " super cut skin tight contest look "

I would honestly be happy reaching 220lb LEAN NATURALLY, even if my body doesn’t look contest.

Would you say that is achievable ?

[quote]Mr. Zero wrote:

[quote]archilles2 wrote:
Can anyone attest to knowing any large NATURAL body builders with the above
qualities ? IF so, happy to hear from you.

Very rarely have seen or known anyone to have reached these qualities NATURALLY

  • ( I.E.NO DRUGS) .

I see alot of naturals that look big, but not OLYMPIA big. Most think it’s impossible
,anyone disagree? [/quote]

Your post makes no sense. There is a HUGE difference between lean 220 and “OLYMPIA big”. You will never be olympia big without drugs. I think lean 220 isn’t very difficult, i’m cutting down to 220 from 240 and im not carrying alot of bodyfat either.[/quote]
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Yes. [/quote]

I already said yes before, and so did ebomb. And what if we told you No, it’s not possible, were you going to just quit?? Don’t set limits on yourself, you should even try to get to a lean 260 as a natural, you won’t reach it, but you’ll be happy where you end up. Kind of like the saying with shooting for the stars or moon or whatever it is.
btw, I knew a few football players that had pretty impressive physiques and were a little over 220.

[quote]gregron wrote:
…but as you can tell from the responses in this thread, a contest shape 220 @ 5’8-5’11" isn’t going to happen as a natty.

Intact a contest shape 220 @ 5’8-5’11 would be damn good for a non natty competitor lol[/quote]

Truth…and as Ebomb posted, most people don’t have a clue what ‘stage ready’ really means!

[quote]BlueCollarTr8n wrote:
Truth…and as Ebomb posted, most people don’t have a clue what ‘stage ready’ really means!
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Exactly! I don’t usually chime in on these types of threads, but I do laugh every time someone posts up how they’re 10% bodyfat.

A few points I have about people discussing bf levels:
-Most people are ‘fatter’ than they think.
-Contest conditioning is leaner than anyone who hasn’t competed can imagine.
-Larger people (with more muscle over a big frame) can have low bodyfat #s but still not look truly lean.

The few pros I know who compete around 200 lbs would be considered ‘lean’ by normal standards anywhere up to 220, but they know what they need to look like to win shows. When I get down to 190, every college kid in my gym go on and on about how ‘ripped’ I look, but I know that I’m nowhere close to being where I need to be to step onstage and dominate.

S

That really makes you stand back in awe when you know this stuff. I talk with Nasser El sonbaty often, as he frequents the gym i go to. The man used to be on stage in the 290s. Really mind boggling.

jesus christ just let this thread die.

^ you mad bro?

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
jesus christ just let this thread die. [/quote]

It has already risen from the dead! three months after it’s death!

edit: Go tell it on the mountain!

HOW TALL is the trainer (makes a MASSIVE difference); a 5’8" guy with 7 inch wrists who gets to 200lbs/220lbs naturally (if he can that is), can’t be compared to a guy who is 6’+ with a similar bone structure, can he? So I ask you - is this a height competition or bodybuilding? Weight means a lot, but paradoxically, it also means very little without context; height, bones, body fat (your real body fat).

olympia big, no. peter north big, yes.

[quote]ebomb5522 wrote:
as you diet down, you don’t just lose pure muscle.

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I hope so :stuck_out_tongue:

OP looks like your not going to get any names or pictures.

[quote]zraw wrote:

[quote]ebomb5522 wrote:
as you diet down, you don’t just lose pure muscle.

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I hope so :p[/quote]

Lol…fail.

Pure fat, pure fat Hahah.