Narcissistic Personality Disorder

[quote]KrohDaddi wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]KrohDaddi wrote:
would you prefer your kids to have absolutely no self-esteem, no ego whatsoever, feel like they don’t deserve any consideration and stagger through life willing to take any abuse anyone is handing out?[/quote]

Who are you talking to?[/quote]

if i don’t specify, it is a general retort to a standard typical position
i don’t have enough specific information to know who it applies to here
if it seems to apply to you it is because the shoe fits and you must wear it
i have no idea yet
if it’s making you angry, you are experiencing a transference issue[/quote]

hahahahaahahahahahaha

Okay man first you have not been on here so I will give you a break.

I tend to not take guys serious who do not even know fucking punctuation. That lends me to think you are either a 20 year old know it all or your mentally challenged.

Possible Troll also, there is always that.

Now go away the grown ups are talking.

Rocky talking to his son. My son got this speech a few times from me before I even saw this.

He’s a great kid.

[quote]tom63 wrote:
That seems like my step daughter. Lazy, can’t take criticism. Excuses etc.
At her sixteenth birthday party an old friend asked me how my twins were doing in school. I told them how they did their freshmen year. They were 2nd and 12 in their class st the end of the school year. She heard thst walking by and took a fit and ran in the house. They’re both much smarter and work harder than her, but she always made excuses .

There is so much more to this than an incident or two . After she left the house( she was told she’s following are rules or leaving) her mother found some sex tapes on her cell phone. She denied it until she was blue in the face and ran to relatives complaining how her mother was spreading lies.
Her mother got her a summer job making 10+ dollars an hours a half mile from our home ( she works st the sister plant). Kid failed s drug test. Using an idiot friend’s hot pee. She stole my dons chuck taylor’s even though they were much to big for him.
She screws up and it’s always poor pity me.

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without knowing any more than this, i can begin to see possible alternate explanations for her behaviour

holding these academic achievements up for praise in her presence and at her 16th birthday party (which she likely had big expectations about being HER day) may have re-activated feelings of inferiority (you say the twins are both smarter AND work harder; you can’t beat someone if they are both more naturally gifted and work harder than you so what hope is there?)

there may be feelings she can’t articulate or have a vague suspicion about her grades being artificially lower than they should have been because she was discriminated against as some kind of freak or too pretty or too chubby or something by the teachers

you don’t specify what you mean by academic achievement but that has come largely to mean math and science and computers in contemporary society and all the humanities dismissed as romantic frilly nonsense

this can begin a spiral into a personality problem
someone who may have considerable innate talent can feel utterly devalued in an unjust way by these tendencies

drug testing and being sixteen. 'nuff said?

and as many have begun to note, if there had been cameras everywhere when we were young we would not have the luxury of playing all brand-new now
embarrassing photos and vids on the internet are probably going to be about as significant in the future as all those people who said you would never get a job with a tattoo or a facial piercing.
Now, so many people have them there is nothing you can do to avoid them so that has become moot.

i can easily see her viewpoint here from the details you choose to include
the job was gotten for her, it’s near your home, it is related to the place her mother works

it all sounds like you had expectations of her behaviour serving as an extension of your own accomplishments, you wanted to feel proud of her etc.

from her point of view, she wishes you would choose to be on her side and not pick the side of random people you happen to work with, that her feelings should be more important to you than what people outside of the home think about your honour

to her, you have already emotionally abandoned her

Good to hear. It is tough on my wife . There’s so much more. More of the problem is my wife’s mother and sister who buy her bs. She lies like people breath.

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Yo Momma wrote:

[quote]tom63 wrote:
That seems like my step daughter. Lazy, can’t take criticism. Excuses etc.
At her sixteenth birthday party an old friend asked me how my twins were doing in school. I told them how they did their freshmen year. They were 2nd and 12 in their class st the end of the school year. She heard thst walking by and took a fit and ran in the house. They’re both much smarter and work harder than her, but she always made excuses .

There is so much more to this than an incident or two . After she left the house( she was told she’s following are rules or leaving) her mother found some sex tapes on her cell phone. She denied it until she was blue in the face and ran to relatives complaining how her mother was spreading lies.
Her mother got her a summer job making 10+ dollars an hours a half mile from our home ( she works st the sister plant). Kid failed s drug test. Using an idiot friend’s hot pee. She stole my dons chuck taylor’s even though they were much to big for him.
She screws up and it’s always poor pity me.
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Could be bi-polar disorder.

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Could be a lot of thinks Momma, reason we go to school for 14 years plus. Only way to help is the actually person needs to seek the help.

Tom, sorry man, has to be fucking hard on your wife. Mine had a very hard year and half when her son was on the dark side. Every night hearing her cry to sleep is fucking brutal on a husband. Again we just got him back about 3 months ago, fixing his mistakes etc, but he has a job and is sober. [/quote]

[quote]tom63 wrote:
Good to hear. It is tough on my wife . There’s so much more. More of the problem is my wife’s mother and sister who buy her bs. She lies like people breath.

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Yo Momma wrote:

[quote]tom63 wrote:
That seems like my step daughter. Lazy, can’t take criticism. Excuses etc.
At her sixteenth birthday party an old friend asked me how my twins were doing in school. I told them how they did their freshmen year. They were 2nd and 12 in their class st the end of the school year. She heard thst walking by and took a fit and ran in the house. They’re both much smarter and work harder than her, but she always made excuses .

There is so much more to this than an incident or two . After she left the house( she was told she’s following are rules or leaving) her mother found some sex tapes on her cell phone. She denied it until she was blue in the face and ran to relatives complaining how her mother was spreading lies.
Her mother got her a summer job making 10+ dollars an hours a half mile from our home ( she works st the sister plant). Kid failed s drug test. Using an idiot friend’s hot pee. She stole my dons chuck taylor’s even though they were much to big for him.
She screws up and it’s always poor pity me.
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Could be bi-polar disorder.

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Could be a lot of thinks Momma, reason we go to school for 14 years plus. Only way to help is the actually person needs to seek the help.

Tom, sorry man, has to be fucking hard on your wife. Mine had a very hard year and half when her son was on the dark side. Every night hearing her cry to sleep is fucking brutal on a husband. Again we just got him back about 3 months ago, fixing his mistakes etc, but he has a job and is sober. [/quote]
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Went through that with my parents, who thought my son could do no wrong. Took a few years of him just taking their money and blowing it on Drugs. Nothing like being a divorced father and watching your X enable bad behavior because they are afraid of rejection from their child.

Cause you know he has to learn to explore his world, as his father I should not pressure him with what I think is correct.

It was s passing comment from a godfather about a kid when she walked by. People have conversations.

As for emotional abandonment , she’s the one who would ignore people, display antisocial behavior, lie , manipulate. In the past she stole from my wife , her grandmother’s church . Myself. My son. There’s a whole lot of stuff here more than I feel like typing.

I don’t tolerate bs like this. I have two other kids to take care of. And if it’s not all about her, it’s never good enough.

Personality disorder, bi polar, just being an asshole, or a pussy. It all adds up to bad.

[quote]KrohDaddi wrote:

[quote]tom63 wrote:
That seems like my step daughter. Lazy, can’t take criticism. Excuses etc.
At her sixteenth birthday party an old friend asked me how my twins were doing in school. I told them how they did their freshmen year. They were 2nd and 12 in their class st the end of the school year. She heard thst walking by and took a fit and ran in the house. They’re both much smarter and work harder than her, but she always made excuses .

There is so much more to this than an incident or two . After she left the house( she was told she’s following are rules or leaving) her mother found some sex tapes on her cell phone. She denied it until she was blue in the face and ran to relatives complaining how her mother was spreading lies.
Her mother got her a summer job making 10+ dollars an hours a half mile from our home ( she works st the sister plant). Kid failed s drug test. Using an idiot friend’s hot pee. She stole my dons chuck taylor’s even though they were much to big for him.
She screws up and it’s always poor pity me.

[/quote]

without knowing any more than this, i can begin to see possible alternate explanations for her behaviour

holding these academic achievements up for praise in her presence and at her 16th birthday party (which she likely had big expectations about being HER day) may have re-activated feelings of inferiority (you say the twins are both smarter AND work harder; you can’t beat someone if they are both more naturally gifted and work harder than you so what hope is there?)

there may be feelings she can’t articulate or have a vague suspicion about her grades being artificially lower than they should have been because she was discriminated against as some kind of freak or too pretty or too chubby or something by the teachers

you don’t specify what you mean by academic achievement but that has come largely to mean math and science and computers in contemporary society and all the humanities dismissed as romantic frilly nonsense

this can begin a spiral into a personality problem
someone who may have considerable innate talent can feel utterly devalued in an unjust way by these tendencies

drug testing and being sixteen. 'nuff said?

and as many have begun to note, if there had been cameras everywhere when we were young we would not have the luxury of playing all brand-new now
embarrassing photos and vids on the internet are probably going to be about as significant in the future as all those people who said you would never get a job with a tattoo or a facial piercing.
Now, so many people have them there is nothing you can do to avoid them so that has become moot.

i can easily see her viewpoint here from the details you choose to include
the job was gotten for her, it’s near your home, it is related to the place her mother works

it all sounds like you had expectations of her behaviour serving as an extension of your own accomplishments, you wanted to feel proud of her etc.

from her point of view, she wishes you would choose to be on her side and not pick the side of random people you happen to work with, that her feelings should be more important to you than what people outside of the home think about your honour

to her, you have already emotionally abandoned her
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men with Personality Disorders attempt to manipulate therapists into coaching them in the art of making labels which will stick

so that they can control the behaviour of the ‘weak’ people they feel they are the shepherds over

typically, they are lured into ‘couples therapy’ or the wife insists he speak to someone about his anger or she is going to divorce him, and when he gets in the therapist’s office, his belief system is revealed. He doesn’t think there is anything wrong with his conduct and that the point of the therapy is to instruct him in how to straighten out all the slackers he is stuck with in his home.

[quote]KrohDaddi wrote:

[quote]tom63 wrote:
That seems like my step daughter. Lazy, can’t take criticism. Excuses etc.
At her sixteenth birthday party an old friend asked me how my twins were doing in school. I told them how they did their freshmen year. They were 2nd and 12 in their class st the end of the school year. She heard thst walking by and took a fit and ran in the house. They’re both much smarter and work harder than her, but she always made excuses .

There is so much more to this than an incident or two . After she left the house( she was told she’s following are rules or leaving) her mother found some sex tapes on her cell phone. She denied it until she was blue in the face and ran to relatives complaining how her mother was spreading lies.
Her mother got her a summer job making 10+ dollars an hours a half mile from our home ( she works st the sister plant). Kid failed s drug test. Using an idiot friend’s hot pee. She stole my dons chuck taylor’s even though they were much to big for him.
She screws up and it’s always poor pity me.

[/quote]

without knowing any more than this, i can begin to see possible alternate explanations for her behaviour

holding these academic achievements up for praise in her presence and at her 16th birthday party (which she likely had big expectations about being HER day) may have re-activated feelings of inferiority (you say the twins are both smarter AND work harder; you can’t beat someone if they are both more naturally gifted and work harder than you so what hope is there?)

there may be feelings she can’t articulate or have a vague suspicion about her grades being artificially lower than they should have been because she was discriminated against as some kind of freak or too pretty or too chubby or something by the teachers

you don’t specify what you mean by academic achievement but that has come largely to mean math and science and computers in contemporary society and all the humanities dismissed as romantic frilly nonsense

this can begin a spiral into a personality problem
someone who may have considerable innate talent can feel utterly devalued in an unjust way by these tendencies

drug testing and being sixteen. 'nuff said?

and as many have begun to note, if there had been cameras everywhere when we were young we would not have the luxury of playing all brand-new now
embarrassing photos and vids on the internet are probably going to be about as significant in the future as all those people who said you would never get a job with a tattoo or a facial piercing.
Now, so many people have them there is nothing you can do to avoid them so that has become moot.

i can easily see her viewpoint here from the details you choose to include
the job was gotten for her, it’s near your home, it is related to the place her mother works

it all sounds like you had expectations of her behaviour serving as an extension of your own accomplishments, you wanted to feel proud of her etc.

from her point of view, she wishes you would choose to be on her side and not pick the side of random people you happen to work with, that her feelings should be more important to you than what people outside of the home think about your honour

to her, you have already emotionally abandoned her
[/quote]

Hey Joe, how about you tell us how many children you have? And their ages?

Cause everything you typed screams I Have No Children, But I know Everything about raising kids. Prove me wrong Joe.

Btw, paying for school and earning money for her education should be a good thing. God, you’re a nitwit! So parents should just pay for their kids mistakes even if it means jeopardizing what you can do for the others ?

There’s to much excuse making in this society. And a lot of unemployed humanities majors.

[quote]tom63 wrote:
Btw, paying for school and earning money for her education should be a good thing. God, you’re a nitwit! So parents should just pay for their kids mistakes even if it means jeopardizing what you can do for the others ?

There’s to much excuse making in this society. And a lot of unemployed humanities majors.[/quote]

Tom read my post above yours.

[quote]tom63 wrote:
It was s passing comment from a godfather about a kid when she walked by. People have conversations.

As for emotional abandonment , she’s the one who would ignore people, display antisocial behavior, lie , manipulate. In the past she stole from my wife , her grandmother’s church . Myself. My son. There’s a whole lot of stuff here more than I feel like typing.

I don’t tolerate bs like this. I have two other kids to take care of. And if it’s not all about her, it’s never good enough.

Personality disorder, bi polar, just being an asshole, or a pussy. It all adds up to bad.

[/quote]

you can’t apply a label like ‘anti-social’ to a teenager
it has no significance
it’s like saying children will eat too much candy if you let them

‘ant-social’ is a diagnosis of an adult who has been arrested in their ethical development and not achieved the mature ‘big-picture’ viewpoint
is on the spectrum leading to ‘psycho-path’
the path is paved with an absence of empathy

Yep . Getting a kid the highest paying job in the area to help pay for their education is manipulation ? Smoking weed and losing said job is just kids will be kids? Stealing from your family is because they’re not loved enough. Ungrateful behavior is ok, because they deserve it?

Two school years ago I sent my kids to costa rica for a Spanish class trip I paid for one of the twins while my ex paid for the other . My wife and I paid for the sd to go to Barcelona and Paris this year with her photography school. 4000$. 1500$ more than costa rica. We thought we should be " fair". My wife barely got a thank you . My daughter gave my wife more thanks when she bought her a pack of gluten free cookies . I mean literally more thanks.

But that was life with her. She’s a shit disturber. When she’s around there’s always shit to deal with.

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
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quote]KrohDaddi wrote:

[quote]tom63 wrote:
That seems like my step daughter. Lazy, can’t take criticism. Excuses etc.
At her sixteenth birthday party an old friend asked me how my twins were doing in school. I told them how they did their freshmen year. They were 2nd and 12 in their class st the end of the school year. She heard thst walking by and took a fit and ran in the house. They’re both much smarter and work harder than her, but she always made excuses .

There is so much more to this than an incident or two . After she left the house( she was told she’s following are rules or leaving) her mother found some sex tapes on her cell phone. She denied it until she was blue in the face and ran to relatives complaining how her mother was spreading lies.
Her mother got her a summer job making 10+ dollars an hours a half mile from our home ( she works st the sister plant). Kid failed s drug test. Using an idiot friend’s hot pee. She stole my dons chuck taylor’s even though they were much to big for him.
She screws up and it’s always poor pity me.

[/quote]

without knowing any more than this, i can begin to see possible alternate explanations for her behaviour

holding these academic achievements up for praise in her presence and at her 16th birthday party (which she likely had big expectations about being HER day) may have re-activated feelings of inferiority (you say the twins are both smarter AND work harder; you can’t beat someone if they are both more naturally gifted and work harder than you so what hope is there?)

there may be feelings she can’t articulate or have a vague suspicion about her grades being artificially lower than they should have been because she was discriminated against as some kind of freak or too pretty or too chubby or something by the teachers

you don’t specify what you mean by academic achievement but that has come largely to mean math and science and computers in contemporary society and all the humanities dismissed as romantic frilly nonsense

this can begin a spiral into a personality problem
someone who may have considerable innate talent can feel utterly devalued in an unjust way by these tendencies

drug testing and being sixteen. 'nuff said?

and as many have begun to note, if there had been cameras everywhere when we were young we would not have the luxury of playing all brand-new now
embarrassing photos and vids on the internet are probably going to be about as significant in the future as all those people who said you would never get a job with a tattoo or a facial piercing.
Now, so many people have them there is nothing you can do to avoid them so that has become moot.

i can easily see her viewpoint here from the details you choose to include
the job was gotten for her, it’s near your home, it is related to the place her mother works

it all sounds like you had expectations of her behaviour serving as an extension of your own accomplishments, you wanted to feel proud of her etc.

from her point of view, she wishes you would choose to be on her side and not pick the side of random people you happen to work with, that her feelings should be more important to you than what people outside of the home think about your honour

to her, you have already emotionally abandoned her
[/quote]

Hey Joe, how about you tell us how many children you have? And their ages?

Cause everything you typed screams I Have No Children, But I know Everything about raising kids. Prove me wrong Joe. [/quote]

[quote]tom63 wrote:
Btw, paying for school and earning money for her education should be a good thing. God, you’re a nitwit! So parents should just pay for their kids mistakes even if it means jeopardizing what you can do for the others ?

There’s to much excuse making in this society. And a lot of unemployed humanities majors.[/quote]

you are excusing putting your reputation in the neighbourhood before the well-being of a child by claiming the moral high-ground of ‘working to make money for school’

it also souunds like she is poorly-motivated to do so because what she would want to do with her life is already a waste of time in your mind.

Sure you could. She was very unsocial . I’m not saying she has this or thSt disorder . But she has something . She always had s poor attitude. I don’t know if it’s this or that. I just know we can’t trust her and she refuses to take personal responsibility . And we cannot tolerate this behavior. It puts us and my children and their future at risk.

Newsflash , we’re required to make judgements each day. Whether she has this or that , it doesn’t matter . We can’t do more for her without putting the future of the other two in jeopardy.

[quote]KrohDaddi wrote:

[quote]tom63 wrote:
It was s passing comment from a godfather about a kid when she walked by. People have conversations.

As for emotional abandonment , she’s the one who would ignore people, display antisocial behavior, lie , manipulate. In the past she stole from my wife , her grandmother’s church . Myself. My son. There’s a whole lot of stuff here more than I feel like typing.

I don’t tolerate bs like this. I have two other kids to take care of. And if it’s not all about her, it’s never good enough.

Personality disorder, bi polar, just being an asshole, or a pussy. It all adds up to bad.

[/quote]

you can’t apply a label like ‘anti-social’ to a teenager
it has no significance
it’s like saying children will eat too much candy if you let them

‘ant-social’ is a diagnosis of an adult who has been arrested in their ethical development and not achieved the mature ‘big-picture’ viewpoint
is on the spectrum leading to ‘psycho-path’
the path is paved with an absence of empathy[/quote]

[quote]KrohDaddi wrote:

[quote]tom63 wrote:
Btw, paying for school and earning money for her education should be a good thing. God, you’re a nitwit! So parents should just pay for their kids mistakes even if it means jeopardizing what you can do for the others ?

There’s to much excuse making in this society. And a lot of unemployed humanities majors.[/quote]

you are excusing putting your reputation in the neighbourhood before the well-being of a child by claiming the moral high-ground of ‘working to make money for school’

it also souunds like she is poorly-motivated to do so because what she would want to do with her life is already a waste of time in your mind.[/quote]

Bullshit. We don’t have enough money to pay for everyone’s schooling. They must also help out. She blew a job by smoking weed. She was lazy, didn’t care, and she cost herself 5000$ in income.

You’re a moron.

Joe you messed up the quote, still waiting on the answers to my questions.

Made this smaller so it will be easy for you.

i don’t own any children

What ever happened to responsibility ? Paying fir your mistakes . Common sense and not making them inthe first place ? Guess what? The other two kids in this equation didn’t do any of this silly horseshit. They get good grades. They don’t use drugs . They don’t steal.

And they deserve my help also. And the problem child is not going to take away from them. They didn’t make the same self indulgent lazy choices and should be rewarded for their hard work. We paid over 12000$ put of our pocket last year for her education. Now my kids will start next September . For the twins it will be 20,000.00 a year put of pocket. I can’t afford anymore than that .

But she doesn’t care. She just deserves it in her opinion. Well, we’re done with her.

[quote]tom63 wrote:
What ever happened to responsibility ? Paying fir your mistakes . Common sense and not making them inthe first place ? Guess what? The other two kids in this equation didn’t do any of this silly horseshit. They get good grades. They don’t use drugs . They don’t steal.

And they deserve my help also. And the problem child is not going to take away from them. They didn’t make the same self indulgent lazy choices and should be rewarded for their hard work. We paid over 12000$ put of our pocket last year for her education. Now my kids will start next September . For the twins it will be 20,000.00 a year put of pocket. I can’t afford anymore than that .

But she doesn’t care. She just deserves it in her opinion. Well, we’re done with her. [/quote]

you’re not her father, are you?

[quote]KrohDaddi wrote:
i don’t own any children[/quote]

Dude you need help.

I really hope you have not reproduced.

Save the world, if your not already I would say go full Ghey please.