My T-Nation Tattoo

I dont want to disparage anyone here, I enjoy visiting this website now and again. It is marginally informative, and entertaining. I also have nothing against tatoos, I have quite a few myself. But, as I have been reading some of these posts my jaw has dropped more than once.

ShaneM686, you say that you have learned values, morals, character traits and how to be a better man from T-Nation. Really? From a website. Dont get me wrong, but that is pretty sad.

And waylanderxx, you also live the T-Nation lifestyle. Does it also form your core values as you are pulling so much ass and feeling like a superstar because you use your own picture as an avatar on an internet forum?

I can understand if you read a training article and want to incorporate that into one of your workouts, the articles and rants in the forum can influence your training, and, for some, training is a huge part of their lives, I understand this. But, to say that you build the core values of your belief system around a web site is just plain fucked up.

To the OP, you have now branded yourself with an advertisement, but that is your choice and if you are happy with it then more power to ya.

[quote]totalfit wrote:
I dont want to disparage anyone here, I enjoy visiting this website now and again. It is marginally informative, and entertaining. I also have nothing against tatoos, I have quite a few myself. But, as I have been reading some of these posts my jaw has dropped more than once.

ShaneM686, you say that you have learned values, morals, character traits and how to be a better man from T-Nation. Really? From a website. Dont get me wrong, but that is pretty sad.

And waylanderxx, you also live the T-Nation lifestyle. Does it also form your core values as you are pulling so much ass and feeling like a superstar because you use your own picture as an avatar on an internet forum?

I can understand if you read a training article and want to incorporate that into one of your workouts, the articles and rants in the forum can influence your training, and, for some, training is a huge part of their lives, I understand this. But, to say that you build the core values of your belief system around a web site is just plain fucked up.

To the OP, you have now branded yourself with an advertisement, but that is your choice and if you are happy with it then more power to ya.[/quote]

I don’t think it’s necessarily true that people are forming a system of values around T-Nation: I think it would be more accurate to say that T-Nation is, in some cases, an extension of a person’s lifestyle rather than being the focus of it.

It all depends on how passionate you are about your chosen pursuit, whether it’s bodybuilding, powerlifting, or whatever. The more serious you are, the more you will value what this site has to offer. This may not always be the case, of course: a person who discovers this site early on in their training is naturally going to get more out of it than the veteran who has already ‘been there and done that’.

Not everybody is going to share the same opinion about T-Nation, some people are never going to view it as anything other than a website; others may delve a little deeper and find that there is in fact more to it. I don’t think it is unrealistic for someone to say they have taken lessons away from T-Nation that they can apply in everyday life. I’m not talking about the articles - people that make assumptions like that just aren’t looking at things objectively.

There is more to this site than a good read and some entertainment, if only you choose to look for it. If that’s what your here for, then fine. Having said that, it’s no reason to scoff at someone if they are taking advantage of an open exchange of ideas and benefitting from the experience of someone more knowledgeable than them. I’d venture to say that the ones that do take things a little more seriously and try to fully exploit the resources available here are going to progress further than the ones pointing and laughing.

I’m not trying to write a rousing speech about brotherhood or whatever. I don’t call myself ‘hardcore’ or a T-Man. Hell, to be honest I’m doubtful if the OP’s tat is even real, but I can appreciate that someone else’s path in life may lead them to a different perspective on things.


Rule #1 Don’t hate on tats. Who cares they’re not on you.

Ya wanna know why I got this?

GLADIATOR

Yea sweet and I’ve had it for a while now and still love it.

Gonna go eat now cause I look way too skinny in that picture.

Damn college budget.

[quote]1porsche wrote:
Rule #1 Don’t hate on tats. Who cares they’re not on you.

Ya wanna know why I got this?

GLADIATOR

Yea sweet and I’ve had it for a while now and still love it.[/quote]

Ya wanna what it means?

“The senate and the people of Rome.”

Benito Mussolini used it as his symbol, too.

Sweet.

:stuck_out_tongue:

My grandpa had a naked lady tattooed on his forearm. When he got “older” I’m sure he never lost any sleep worrying about what people thought about it.

[quote]totalfit wrote:
And waylanderxx, you also live the T-Nation lifestyle. Does it also form your core values as you are pulling so much ass and feeling like a superstar because you use your own picture as an avatar on an internet forum?

[/quote]

Yes, Yes it does. Be jealous.

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Goes perfect with yer monster truck, Oakley shades, and Brut cologne.[/quote]

Don’t forget the iPhone!

My father told me a story that while he was in the Army during Communism, many recruits got tats as a rite of passage when their military service was about to end. They claimed it signified the end of a life-changing experience, arrival of maturity, a traditional assumption of a warrior-protector role.

My father never got a tattoo and called them morons. Everyone else called him a pussy.

Years later, during one summer vacation, he gestured towards an older man sitting on a beach in a long-sleeved shirt. “I’ve been in the Army with that guy. Do you see how he never swims in the sea or takes his shirt off? That’s because he has a tattoo on his back of Lenin with “I love communism” under it with hammer-and-sickles around. He was a fucking idiot 30 years ago and is still paying for it”

Just a perspective on 20-something guys identifying themselves with a message board.

I’ve been on T-Nation from when it was T-mag and had cartoon drawings of different editors. How anyone can tattoo the logo (or any logo for that matter) on themselves is beyond me.

If I was Bill Gates, I would buy Biotest and turn T-Nation into a metrosexual site where all training articles would feature only bosu balls and 5 lb dumbbells. Just to fuck with those sporting T-Nation tattoos.

[quote]loppar wrote:

If I was Bill Gates, I would buy Biotest and turn T-Nation into a metrosexual site where all training articles would feature only bosu balls and 5 lb dumbbells. Just to fuck with those sporting T-Nation tattoos.
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haha, that was good.

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
Travacolypse wrote:
Ok guy.

Just because I don’t mindlessly embrace an advertising campaign I shouldn’t be lifting weights.

That’s some bulletproof logic.

Maybe you should. Then you could use yourself as an avatar instead of some Calvin and Hobbes comic, wise ass[/quote]

i dont buy into the whole T-Man marketing bullshit either but that was funny.

[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
Travacolypse wrote:
Ok guy.

Just because I don’t mindlessly embrace an advertising campaign I shouldn’t be lifting weights.

That’s some bulletproof logic.

Maybe you should. Then you could use yourself as an avatar instead of some Calvin and Hobbes comic, wise ass

i dont buy into the whole T-Man marketing bullshit either but that was funny.[/quote]

You know your argument is destined for fail when it has the support of livefromhismom’sbasement.

[quote]Travacolypse wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
Travacolypse wrote:
Ok guy.

Just because I don’t mindlessly embrace an advertising campaign I shouldn’t be lifting weights.

That’s some bulletproof logic.

Maybe you should. Then you could use yourself as an avatar instead of some Calvin and Hobbes comic, wise ass

i dont buy into the whole T-Man marketing bullshit either but that was funny.

You know your argument is destined for fail when it has the support of livefromhismom’sbasement.[/quote]

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[quote]loppar wrote:

Years later, during one summer vacation, he gestured towards an older man sitting on a beach in a long-sleeved shirt. “I’ve been in the Army with that guy. Do you see how he never swims in the sea or takes his shirt off? That’s because he has a tattoo on his back of Lenin with “I love communism” under it with hammer-and-sickles around. He was a fucking idiot 30 years ago and is still paying for it”
[/quote]

Alternatively, one could argue that he’s “paying for it” only because he finds it embarrassing in his mind’s eye.

[quote]1porsche wrote:
Rule #1 Don’t hate on tats. Who cares they’re not on you.

Ya wanna know why I got this?

GLADIATOR

Yea sweet and I’ve had it for a while now and still love it.[/quote]

IT’S ON BACKWARDS!!!1!

Yes, I know it’s a mirror but some dumbass was going to say it. Better it be me than anyone else, because I’m just that awesome.

Hahaha. This thread is hilarious. Why doesn’t everyone “Get a Life?” lol. Plus, I don’t think the OP was asking for your opinions on his motivations for getting the tat, but wanted to know how it looked. Why a person gets a particular tat is only going to make sense to them, not other people.

Also, why are you here if you don’t like the things that abound in every corner of this site? Hahahaha, people crack me up.

i thought it, just didnt say it…

[quote]loppar wrote:
…If I was Bill Gates, I would buy Biotest and turn T-Nation into a metrosexual site where all training articles would feature only bosu balls and 5 lb dumbbells. Just to fuck with those sporting T-Nation tattoos.
[/quote]

Brilliant!

[quote]roybot wrote:
totalfit wrote:
I dont want to disparage anyone here, I enjoy visiting this website now and again. It is marginally informative, and entertaining. I also have nothing against tatoos, I have quite a few myself. But, as I have been reading some of these posts my jaw has dropped more than once.

ShaneM686, you say that you have learned values, morals, character traits and how to be a better man from T-Nation. Really? From a website. Dont get me wrong, but that is pretty sad.

[/quote]

If you actually read all of the good posts by other intelligent members… I don’t see how you can’t understand my POV.

Let me break it down to you like you a child, since it seems that your thick skull can’t absorb what is being said to you somewhat eloquently by other members.

I was 18 years old when I signed on T-Nation. I didn’t join the forums right away, just read articles and skimmed through the forums once in awhile. At this point, I had been simply trying to get a 6-pack and be “fit”. After reading T-Nation, I was able to adjust my diet, my exercise routine, and I have had the pleasure of reading Atomic Dog articles/stories for a long time now.

In the beginning, I just felt better from the training I was doing. I was eating better, so that also improved my general mood and feeling throughout the day.

Anyone who has trained for 3-4 years at least, seriously, knows that the training is more mental than physical. Being focused on your goals, whatever they may be. Eating well, getting more sleep, pushing through the pain, turning away from shitty food, helping others in their endeavors, pushing your training partner, etc. All of that makes you a stronger person. It carries over to other parts of your life when you have an outlet like that.

The Atomic Dog articles, while almost always hilarious, have very valuable points made in them. If you laugh and move on, you get nothing. Some things about being a man, I was never taught when I was younger, as I didn’t have the greatest father. I had a great uncle and mother, so while T-Nation hasn’t formed the true core values and such, it certainly has helped mold that core into something better. The articles about him telling stories about men in relationships for many years and unhappy, but just never have the balls to get out of it. About following the less traveled path, not worrying about money, as RJJC(sorry, i think i screwed that up) traveled to, I think it was Thailand to work as a Scuba instructor in a beautiful exotic place. He mentioned TC having been a big part in this.

As my general knowledge, training knowledge, nutritional knowledge has expanded, I’ve been able to help a great number of people both on T-Nation and person to person. I’ve met a lot of similar minded people in different smaller gyms that I don’t think I would have normally in globo gym or in the work place. Also, many of the members on here are pretty amazing people. Of course the big names like Varqanir, Ponce, Prof. X, Mak. etc, but also a ton of other awesome and bad ass people, especially some of the awesome encouragement that comes out of the T-Vixen area, Buckeye Girl, Cheetah, OG, pch2, Jilly, Jen Heath… on and on. Conversing with these people and learning from them has been a pleasure.

So yea, If you don’t think T-Nation has made me a better man after explaining some of what I’ve gained and what has happened because of it, then yes, I think you are a fool.

what if they go out of business