In case anyone missed this
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The naĆÆvetĆ© of those who lamented Assangeās arrest as a blow to freedom of the press is remarkable. Heās truly a despicable little toad of a man.
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Ask Salman Rushdieā¦
Agree.
Was he extradited to face charges?
Why do you say that? How is this not a blow to press freedom? You support the US government committing war crimes over freedom of speech and freedom of the press?
Probably worse.
He had a fatwa issued on him by Ayatollah Ruhollah of Iran ordering his killing.
My understanding is that it never expires until he is dead.
Assange is a journalist?
How is Assange protected by freedoms the US grants to US citizens?
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Rushdie had the last laugh as he was on Curb Your Enthusiasm after Larry David got Fatwaād.
Obviously not; and Iām not sure that anyone officially requested him to be; not that any western government would have honored such a request in the first place. More importantly than whether or not he was extradited to face charges is the fact that he was sentenced to death without even the benefit of a trial.
Itās only worse if he actually gets extradited, otherwise it means nothing outside of a few fanatical countries.
Sort of, and other journalists are claiming him as one of their own.
On what basis do you deny that he is a journalist?
These are freedoms that exist outside the US as well. The UK supposedly has some degree of press freedom and freedom of speech, which is why there is a strong argument against his extradition.
If you ask me, I would say he made a big mistake by going to the UK in the first place. It is basically a police state. Pretty much anywhere else in Europe would have been better.
How is that more important than whether or not he was extradited? If he had been extradited he would be dead now, instead his āsentenceā is meaningless. In any case, itās called a trial/sentence in absentia, and it exists in many places. They could sentence Assange to 1000 years or the electric chair, its only relevant if he is actually extradited.
Donāt be silly, Itās worse because it gives license for any fanatic to openly kill him at anyplace and anytime they encounter him.
Is he dead yet? What about Charlie Hedbo, was there a fatwa issued against them?
It just seems like maybe itās not a great idea to make inflammatory statements against Islam/Islamic figures because the cost/benefit ratio is not in your favour. There are coherent arguments against various aspect of Islam and I have yet to hear of anyone being sentenced to death in absentia for that. Those Charlie Hebdo guys pretty much got exactly what they were asking for, printing stuff like that in a country with a substantial population of Muslim fanatics.
Tell that to these folks who were guilty of nothing more than being associated with him:
In 1991, Rushdieās Japanese translator, Hitoshi Igarashi, was stabbed to death in Tokyo, and his Italian translator was beaten and stabbed in Milan. In 1993, Rushdieās Norwegian publisher William Nygaard was shot and severely injured in an attack outside his house in Oslo. Thirty-seven guests died when their hotel in Sivas, Turkey was torched by locals protesting against Aziz Nesin, Rushdieās Turkish translator.
Unlike Sunni terrorism, Shiite terrorism is always centralized and top-down, with IRGC and the Council of Guardians calling the shots. If you look at the attempts at Rushdieās life, they came in the late 80ies and 90ies organized by terror groups under Iranian control.
In the last twenty or so years and especially now the IRGC have more pressing matters (Syria, Yemen, domestic disturbancesā¦) to attend to and cannot afford the luxury of going after Rushdie as it would be bad PR at the moment when theyāre trying to convince EU to eschew US imposed sanctions. Top-down terrorism.
Are you fucking serious? What they were asking for? In France?
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Was the UK government complicit in any of these incididents?
Iām not saying that it was right for them to be killed, but as you can see their own actions led to their demise. France is something like 10% Muslim with Muslim controlled no-go zones, in a place like that you donāt really want to incite the anger of Muslim fanatics because there is a real chance you will end up dead.
If someone posted a video with dynamite strapped to their chest, holding an AK-47, and yelling ādeath to Americaā, and tomorrow you hear they were blown up by a US drone, would you feel sad? Same idea.
You defend Assange, but Hebdo got what they deserved eh? Itās okay to work for Russian TV and publish classified info (and help hack it).
But itās certainly not okay to criticize a religion you donāt like in your world?
Okay.
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He doesnāt work for a newspaper or other source for news. News being facts without bias. He clearly, by his own admission, is biased.
Do they exist in Russia? You know, his employers.
No. Itās called a fatwa.
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Yes. Anytime a person is killed by a fanatical Muslim he was getting just what he asked for.
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If I were on their side of things I probably would. Iām on Hebdoās side so I feel bad for them.
It really isnāt.
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