[quote]pookie wrote:
JPBear wrote:
Why does it bother you so much?
Because having a typo on your back for the rest of your life sucks?[/quote]
If you want me to hate you, you are going to have to try harder than that!
Just remember Pookie, the meaner you are to me, the more I will be remembering you in my prayers.
[quote]JPBear wrote:
If you want me to hate you, you are going to have to try harder than that![/quote]
I don’t want you to hate me, I want you to get your brain back on-line. The Bottle and the Babble aren’t the only two choices you know.
Anyway, if I wanted you to hate me, I wouldn’t bother with the typo, I’d just point out that the tattoo makes you look fat. (It doesn’t really, well not much, but if there’s one thing that brings out the fury in a woman…)
Don’t you get enough of me here? Do you expiate your sins by inflicting bad Pookie thoughts on yourself?
[quote]pookie wrote:
Don’t you get enough of me here? Do you expiate your sins by inflicting bad Pookie thoughts on yourself?
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Maybe you’re some sort of cyber hair shirt.
[quote]futuredave wrote:
pookie wrote:
Don’t you get enough of me here? Do you expiate your sins by inflicting bad Pookie thoughts on yourself?
Maybe you’re some sort of cyber hair shirt.
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Only if it’s another way to say ‘hateful atheist jerk’. This is probably one of the lowest possible uses of your time that doesn’t involve drug sales or sex crimes.
Don’t hate the prayer, hate the game.
[quote]pookie wrote:
I don’t want you to hate me, I want you to get your brain back on-line. The Bottle and the Babble aren’t the only two choices you know.
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Pookie,
How many times have we seen this with recovering addicts? She’s just traded one addiction for another.
[b]Alcoholic
Mood alters up by drinking; mood alters down by not drinking or simply by thinking about the prospect of not drinking.
Chooses to be with people who have a relationship with alcohol similar to their own; relationships with others become a casualty.
Gravitates toward places that cater to, are sympathetic to, or even encourage using behavior (e.g., the local bar).
Religious Addict
Mood alters up by behaving religiously; mood alters down when they do not or can not (attend church, read the Bible daily, pray enough, etc.)
Chooses to be with people who have a religious belief system similar to their own, withdrawing from friends and even family members who do not.
Attends church and activities with people who believe the same or attends activities that are sponsored by like-minded groups and organizations.[/b]
As far as the tat goes, you should never make life altering descisions while in a highly emotional state. But that doesn’t help her as now, she’s marked herself for life. How she’ll feel about it in five or twenty years? Who knows.
She should have just bought a T-shirt instead.
I’ve always wondered: people who feel compelled to get a tatoo of Jesus or scripture like this, do they think this will get them in the express line to heaven? Do they think this will get them free champagne in first class of the heavenly 747, while everyone rides coach? If you feel so strongly about it, why not tatoo JESUS across your forehead where everyone can see it?
That is REALLY mean, Gojira.
Why do ppl CARE what she does and how? She’s HAPPY with herself, she got a tattoo she likes, she’s not hurting anybody or herself anymore. Let her be.
Just because someone may not like what she wrote on herself doesn’t mean they need to be so nasty. SEVERAL ppl have been rude about her ink. Why do you care so much about what someone else chose to put on their body?
[quote]Carrie77 wrote:
That is REALLY mean, Gojira.
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There’s something you don’t see everyday.
I think it’s sweet that pookie cares so much!
You know what I find very interesting?
The atheists/agnostics/non-religious who are speeking against the tat seem to be expressing concern for JP’s wellfare and mental state. They are worried that she’s made a decision that she will regret later on in her life, and while they may not agree with the reasoning behind the tat, they generaly wish her well and say “hey, if you like it, it’s cool with me”
The other christians who have expressed displeasure with JP’s body art have mostly spewed scripture to support the fact that JP will burn in hell.
Interesting divide.
La’
Redsol1
[quote]Carrie77 wrote:
That is REALLY mean, Gojira.
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The truth hurts.
Is she happy with herself? If so, why bother posting the picture on here? Her right to be left alone came to a screeching cessation when she posted a picture of her Jesus tattoo.
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Just because someone may not like what she wrote on herself doesn’t mean they need to be so nasty. SEVERAL ppl have been rude about her ink. [/quote]
If she wasn’t prepared to take the criticism, then she shouldn’t have posted the picture on here in the first place. You’re forgetting that this is the Internet.
Lastly, she seems to be taking all criticism just fine thus far. I don’t understand why you felt the need to jump in and defend her.
[quote]Carrie77 wrote:
That is REALLY mean, Gojira.
Why do ppl CARE what she does and how? She’s HAPPY with herself, she got a tattoo she likes, she’s not hurting anybody or herself anymore. Let her be.
Just because someone may not like what she wrote on herself doesn’t mean they need to be so nasty. SEVERAL ppl have been rude about her ink. Why do you care so much about what someone else chose to put on their body?[/quote]
Totally in agreement here. We should not care why she did it. She put the pic up to show us and not for us to begin to analyze the why, what if, and the what next. She is not pushing anything on anyone, yet people are mobbing on her for it. Very unclassy.
[quote]Carrie77 wrote:
That is REALLY mean, Gojira.
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Yeah that was pretty harsh. It’s probably healthier to be drunk on Jesus than alcohol anyway.
Best Jesus tattoo I’ve ever seen: “Jesus Saves, Gretzky scores on the rebound”
[quote]Carrie77 wrote:
That is REALLY mean, Gojira.
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How is it mean? Because I think she may have made a life-lasting decision based on a possible ephemeral infatuation? I felt the same way about Rainjacks T-Nation tatoo. People need to think really long and hard before they commit their skin as a canvas for a cause they may not feel the same way about in the furture. She already has one tatoo she hates.
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Why do ppl CARE what she does and how? She’s HAPPY with herself, she got a tattoo she likes, she’s not hurting anybody or herself anymore. Let her be.
Just because someone may not like what she wrote on herself doesn’t mean they need to be so nasty. SEVERAL ppl have been rude about her ink. Why do you care so much about what someone else chose to put on their body?[/quote]
She knew the job was dangerous when she posted. She’s no newbie and has been around here long enough to know we are a diverse group that can be pretty stinging in our commentary.
Sooooo…how 'bout them Olympics…???
JP
To hell with anyone who judges you…period.
I like your tattoo. All that matters is that you like it and it means something to you.
And for all who are trying to play shrink in a box…stop. You are not her and you don’t know exactly where she is in life.
Stop judging her.
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
JP
To hell with anyone who judges you…period.
I like your tattoo. All that matters is that you like it and it means something to you.
And for all who are trying to play shrink in a box…stop. You are not her and you don’t know exactly where she is in life.
Stop judging her.
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Right on Rock.
[quote]gojira wrote:
Carrie77 wrote:
That is REALLY mean, Gojira.
How is it mean? Because I think she may have made a life-lasting decision based on a possible ephemeral infatuation? I felt the same way about Rainjacks T-Nation tatoo. People need to think really long and hard before they commit their skin as a canvas for a cause they may not feel the same way about in the furture. She already has one tatoo she hates.
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Your whole post came across as mean. Moreso than the others who were negative about it.
SHE made her decision for HERSELF. You didn’t make it for her. So what if she hates the tat she got at 13? She probably thought about that before getting her 2nd one. And if she didn’t, well that’s her deal.
A LOT of ppl on here have bitched about her tat. Here’s a clue, folks: It’s not your body! She’s not shoving religion down your throat, she’s showing a picture of a tattoo that means something to HER. If you don’t like it, you don’t have to look at it.
And? Big deal.
I’ve been here a year and I know there’s MUCH criticism about many issues. But to sit there and berate someone for their choices in life and tell them they go from one addiciton to another while listing the “wrongs” of each addiction is just mean. Especially when one physically harmful addiction is exchanged for something that harms no one. So she loves Jesus. So? Lots of ppl do. She isn’t shoving it down anybody’s throat. Quit harping on her over it.
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
JP
To hell with anyone who judges you…period.
I like your tattoo. All that matters is that you like it and it means something to you.
And for all who are trying to play shrink in a box…stop. You are not her and you don’t know exactly where she is in life.
Stop judging her.
[/quote]
Absolutely.
Okay you guys, I am going to share my story with you all because I think there are some misconceptions about who I am and where I am at in life.
When I was a child, my mother was a very abusive, hateful person. She let me know every day how much she hated me and made her goal in life to make mine a living hell. She was a horrid, evil person, physically and emotionally abusive. I had my first suicidal thoughts at the age of five and by the time I was 11 I thought about killing myself constantly. My father had a gambling addiction and we were often on welfare. We moved constantly to escape his debts. My mom eventually left my dad and we lived in several different woman and children’s shelters.
At the age of 12 I met one of my aunts for the first time. She did not want to leave me with my mom so she took me to live with her family in another province. I have only seen my real family two times since.
My aunt was a good person but I didn’t stay there long because I turned rebellious. At the age of thirteen I was kicked out of school, drinking and doing every drug I could get my hands on including cocaine, sleeping around, and living with whoever would let me stay with them. I was placed in foster care and sent to live in group homes, and was locked up in psychiatric wards three times (twice after suicide attempts). I was beaten by cops (which I did deserve) and spent a night handcuffed on a cement floor in a jail cell, I was gang raped by strangers, and I was often beaten up. This was all at the age of thirteen.
What was interesting throughout all of this is that I really despised Christians. I hated them for being so stupid and blind. I loved to meet Christians so I could tear them to pieces.
So, during one of my psychiatric ward stays I was sitting in the smoking room, recovering from the night before when I had to get my stomach pumped because of a suicide attempt. Looking back at myself at that point I see a blackened heart full of pain and hate. Most of me just wanted to die, but a small part of me was afraid to. I also had no ability to trust anyone.
A man started talking to me. I didn’t know who he was, but I would later find him to be one of the most Godly men I have ever met. He started talking to me about God, which made me spit hateful comments back at him and try and trap him with what I thought were clever arguments. He asked me if he could pray for me. I was taken aback. I said: “sure, but it’s not going to change anything”.
We went to another room and he began to pray over me. For a long time nothing happened and I remembered thinking “this is so dumb”. But then all of a sudden, the whole room was filled with God’s Spirit. It swept through my whole body like a light pouring through it and I knew at that moment that there was a God and He was calling me. I had no choice but to accept Him. I went back to my room and found the little Gideon’s Bible in my bedside drawer and read the Gospels from start to finish.
My life was not instantly perfect after that. I served God the best I could through my teenage years but it took me a while to completely leave the drugs and other self destructive behaviors behind. I got to live in a wonderful Christian foster home for three years, and that really helped me to grow. I caught up on my missed year of school and graduated with honors.
At 18 I met and married my soul mate, a wonderful Christian man and we began our life together. For the next five years we both had great jobs, made good money, bought nice homes, did tons of political work and volunteer work, were active in the Church and community, had good friends, and went on nice vacations. I started to work out seriously and did a figure competition. Yet in my heart I knew that I was not really serving God, but serving my own ambitions. God chased me and prodded at my mind constantly, but I ignored Him, because I did not want to give up my dream life. At the same time, I struggled inwardly to deal with my Disthymnia, which is a chronic depression. I began to mask it with drinking. Most of my drinking was done in secret. To this day, most people do really believe I was an alcoholic.
After I had Malakai the depression became so bad I finally made the decision to go on anti depressants. Finally, the chemical imbalance in my brain was corrected and I felt great. But I still had an addiction to alcohol, and the addiction resurfaced after I gave birth. By the end of December I was drinking more than ever.
On January 1, I woke up and knew I had to choose between destroying my life with alcohol or never taking another drink. I chose to stop drinking and one of the first things I did was post on this board. I got an unbelievable amount of support from the people here, and I have not had a drink since.
A few weeks after I stopped drinking God began to prod at me again. For the first time in a long time I was able to come before Him without the desire to continue living in sin. I made a simple commitment to Him to serve him with all my heart. I was saved before, but I was not truly a disciple of Jesus. Now I am. He has filled me with so much joy, peace and purpose, there are no words to describe it. I am serving Jesus because this is my calling. I love Him and I am willing to give up my own desires and do whatever He asks. I have known in my Spirit since the day I was saved that this is my calling, but I spent 10 years running from it. I am now where I am supposed to be and I will not be going back.
This tattoo is an outward sign of the inward commitment I have made to my Lord.
Thank you for sharing your experience, J. You’ve risen above an extremely troublesome beginning. Good for you. 