[quote]gojira wrote:
Carrie77 wrote:
That is REALLY mean, Gojira.
How is it mean? Because I think she may have made a life-lasting decision based on a possible ephemeral infatuation? I felt the same way about Rainjacks T-Nation tatoo. People need to think really long and hard before they commit their skin as a canvas for a cause they may not feel the same way about in the furture. She already has one tatoo she hates.
Why do ppl CARE what she does and how? She’s HAPPY with herself, she got a tattoo she likes, she’s not hurting anybody or herself anymore. Let her be.
Just because someone may not like what she wrote on herself doesn’t mean they need to be so nasty. SEVERAL ppl have been rude about her ink. Why do you care so much about what someone else chose to put on their body?
She knew the job was dangerous when she posted. She’s no newbie and has been around here long enough to know we are a diverse group that can be pretty stinging in our commentary.
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HA! I wonder what you would say about my Chicago Bull on my shoulder!
[quote]Chris Adams wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Probably the same reason it bothers me that I can’t read a fuckin thread around here without seeing another goddamn Bible quote.
On the other hand, nice tattoo. When you getting another one? It gets addictive
Atleast you could do is not use God’s name in vain. Thank you![/quote]
[quote]BIGRAGOO wrote:
Carrie77 wrote:
That is REALLY mean, Gojira.
Why do ppl CARE what she does and how? She’s HAPPY with herself, she got a tattoo she likes, she’s not hurting anybody or herself anymore. Let her be.
Just because someone may not like what she wrote on herself doesn’t mean they need to be so nasty. SEVERAL ppl have been rude about her ink. Why do you care so much about what someone else chose to put on their body?
Totally in agreement here. We should not care why she did it. She put the pic up to show us and not for us to begin to analyze the why, what if, and the what next. She is not pushing anything on anyone, yet people are mobbing on her for it. Very unclassy. [/quote]
Why post it.
If i had a face lift and posted, i am sure i would get agro, even if i did it for what i felt were healthy reasons.
You could get enough acolites from the local church, but not here.
[quote]JPBear wrote:
some deep disturbing, emotional shit.
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Damn, JP, what a life. You have proved that your will to live is a testament to your faith. You’ve been through shit most others can’t even fathom. It takes guts to reveal that, and I commend you. I hope all the bashers read that and compare it to where they’ve been in their lives. It should let them know how shallow their complaints have been.
Thanks for sharing your story. I’m really excited for you that you’re becoming at peace with yourself and your place in life. I think you have created a thoroughly beautiful, intelligent woman out of the ashes of your past. I know you have incredible things in store for you with the attitude you now posses.
[quote]redsol1 wrote:
You know what I find very interesting?
The atheists/agnostics/non-religious who are speeking against the tat seem to be expressing concern for JP’s wellfare and mental state. They are worried that she’s made a decision that she will regret later on in her life, and while they may not agree with the reasoning behind the tat, they generaly wish her well and say “hey, if you like it, it’s cool with me”
The other christians who have expressed displeasure with JP’s body art have mostly spewed scripture to support the fact that JP will burn in hell.
[quote]Nate Green wrote:
redsol1 wrote:
You know what I find very interesting?
The atheists/agnostics/non-religious who are speeking against the tat seem to be expressing concern for JP’s wellfare and mental state. They are worried that she’s made a decision that she will regret later on in her life, and while they may not agree with the reasoning behind the tat, they generaly wish her well and say “hey, if you like it, it’s cool with me”
The other christians who have expressed displeasure with JP’s body art have mostly spewed scripture to support the fact that JP will burn in hell.
Interesting divide.
La’
Redsol1
Best post in the entire thread.
-Nate[/quote]
I guess you see what you want to see.
Who are all these Christian’s spewing scripture that I will burn in hell? Sam 747 quoted a verse, but I don’t know if he is a Christian or not. That is all I can think of. Others quoted verses in order to clarify the whole “law vs. grace” issue, which I think is great.
Now, as for these people concerned about my welfare, I am curious about something. Let’s say you had a friend with an eating disorder and you were concerned about her well being. What approach would you take in order to help her? Would you go up to her and say “well, all your puking isn’t working, 'cause you are still fat you disgusting bulimic!” or would you write a nasty letter about her behaviour and email it to all her friends and family? I sure hope not.
You would only do this if you were motivated by hate, spite or anger. This is my view of the behaviour displayed by these lovely people who are just so concerned about my welfare.
[quote]JPBear wrote:
You would only do this if you were motivated by hate, spite or anger. This is my view of the behaviour displayed by these lovely people who are just so concerned about my welfare. [/quote]
Wanted to let you know how much I admire the way you have handled yourself on this thread.
A lot of questions have come forward and wanted to offer you (as well as Helga) that if you would like to expound on a subject you can PM me anytime. I have been teaching pastors for the last 7 years in Apologetics and Applied Theology. I do not claim to be an expert at all but as a brother in Christ want to let you know you can ask me anything you want. If I do not know the aswer I have quite the ‘Theology Think Tank’ available and will bounce it off to them.
I pray His Peace will continue to rest on you and your family,
Thank you for the offer Marq, I will be taking you up on this in the future. I really wanted to answer Helga’s question, so I did a bunch of research. I came up with a lot of different explanations, but I am not positive which one is correct, so I didn’t post anything.
God showed me something this morning. At first I was slightly irritated by all the unbelievers accusing the believers of picking and choosing which parts of the Bible we follow, but now I realize that their complaints have merit.
The New Testament is very clear that the old religious, ceremonial, sacrificial, health and cleanliness laws are no longer in effect. But what replaced these things was not an easier set of commandments, but a higher, more difficult calling.
I know I have spent most of my Christian walk clinging to the verses that I liked, mostly those that told me what God would do for me, while ignoring the verses which told me what I must do for God.
We as Christians often think of Jesus as our Saviour. He is our Saviour, but He is also our Lord. He did not command us to live our lives as we please and have Him as our weekend hobby. He commanded us to surrender our lives to Him, love our neighbour as ourselves and love other Christians as He loved us (be willing to die for them).
The Bible says that the unbelievers will know us by our love for each other, our good works, and the fruit of the spirit (love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control). The Bible does not say they will know us just because we say we are Christians.
We should use the observations of these unbelievers to examine ourselves, rather than become defensive and lash out, and I apologize that I have lashed out.
