[quote]Cortes wrote:
oscarhs wrote:
Here some pics of my last injection spot , which is a bit lower than where i used to inject.
I would like to try this ventrogluteal site, but i can’t seem to find it as easily as people say it is.
Go up a little higher (toward your waist) on your next injection and see how that does you. The spot you indicate looks like where I hit a nerve last time.[/quote]
Usually when i inject a little higher more pain is involved. That place where i did it seems to be painless, Also I’ve never seen any blood when i aspirate so i guess i havn’t hit a nerve no matter where i inject into my quads. Ill try a little higher next injection tomorrow.
Just back from the gym, did back. Started with deadlifts and i hit a new PR on that, 120kg for 2 reps. weeee. I know its still weak but hey at least I’m improving. I feel a little dazzy today and also noticing some bloat on arms\forearms. I usually take 50g protein + 5g creatine straight after a workout, then ride my bike home and have a meal, for a weird reason last two days i haven’t been able to eat so quickly, so i delay it for 1hour or so. What im trying to say is, i can’t eat at all even the thought of eating makes me choke, Really weird cause i used to only feel this when i was full and when i eat stuff with alot of oil. Maybe its my bodies way of recovering from that red mark on thigh i dunno, can only hope for the best.
just had another injection 250mg, I went a little higher like Cortes suggested and i must say this higher spot stings while needle is in there nearly all the time. I noticed the test kick in after 4th week i felt drowsy and felt very pumped all day , strength wise I’ve noticed only little improvements week by week, I been using 5 weeks now and i just got sent a before pic of mine that i had lost, and i must say my whole body has improved (not too much tho) 3.5kg gain over the whole body is not much of a difference. My weight hasn’t really gone higher than 89kg and im eating like crazy, 8 eggs per day, alot of tuna … heaps of shakes, just from the shakes im taking in about 150-200g protein, depending on if i have 2 servings b4 bed or not.
I Also have this huge ass pimple under my right nostrol which is the first of its kind since i started. No other sides to report my nipples are fine with the adex and occasionally about every fortnight i take 20mg nolvadex if i feel i need it. Oh forgot to say I also don’t feel any pain from workouts the day after, no matter how hard my intensity is , like with hack squats i did about 6 sets after not training legs for 2weeks because of thigh pain, and only felt a pump in quads the next day etc (No muscle soreness at all) I guess thats the recovery rate working fast. Will report here in some days till then have fun and Happy Australia Day to the aussies here.
oscarhs,
When my dosage was almost as high as yours, I had REALLY oily skin, and bance, and my face was breaking out too, I went to 2mg/week of adex and it all went away. All except a tiny bit of oily skin. You might want to try slight increase in your adex dosage to see if it helps you like it did me.
You never know…
I just had a chest workout, there was no strength increase today, my weight has not changed either from 89kg. Its been 5 weeks now and if this doesn’t kick in anytime sooner im gonna start to think either Eco Oils is underdosed or really shit gear, i don’t think 3.5kg is alot of weight in 5weeks, if this increases i will have no complains but i do have my doubts at this very moment. We will see how we go next couple of weeks, I got some 15ml of Tren shipped to me, and some enanthate later for my second cycle.
Ok time for some raging, I’m really pissed off its been 5weeks i don’t feel the test at all if any it could all be placebo from all the reading i have done, about week 5-6 i should have exploded or atleast gained a great deal of strength which i haven’t. Yesterdays and Todays workouts i have felt weak as a butterfly no strength gains at all, even a decline from last week. I’m starting to think the Eco Oil sachets i received is nothing but pure oil or very under dosed i took some pics of what the oil looks like, i have complained to the site i got it off (also did another order from a different site, once i recieve them i can compare the two)
here are the pics.
I’ll still continue injecting since i guess its 100% sterile what ever it is, otherwise i would have been sick already ;p. bloooody hell annoyed ( and this anger is not roid rage just frustration)
I’ve never taken steroids so I may be talking out of my ass for a little but I doubt it. At your age (21?) would 250 mg of test 2x a week really swole you up? Its not like your a 40 year old man with low test levels, 250 twice a week seems low… Also you started your cycle with your bodyfat in the high teens showing you dont know much about proper nutrition and dieting (maybe you should have gaven roids a year or so)… Your doing Waterburys ABBH program which is a beginer level program that wouldnt put much stress on your muscle fibers to grow anyway. I would have done a more anabolic and demanding workout like A.G.V.T. (advanced german volume training)…The gains you have gotten off your test are WORSE than what I get when im dialed in naturally (dialed in as in my diet my workouts and my recovery are all optimal).
I have been keeping up with your log because im curious to see what roids is all about (your log makes me want to stay natural BTW) keep the log all the way through your PCT…
dude first of all, where did you not understand that this is fake test. Second of all my body fat is high because im a carb addict and i really don’t wanna be lean atm, just wanna get huge. I finished ABBH, I’m constantly switching programs back and forth and really don’t care what program im on aslong as it looks fine which ABBH is, Ill do it. Also just to let you know if you have done any reading at all the average testosterone your body makes per day is between 4-10mg a day , that = to about 70-100mg a week. So ‘YES’ 250mg injected E3D’s is a nice amount for juicer beginner or not, its a fact. Because its fake juice im 100% certain now, that would mean i gained 3.5kg naturally in 4-5weeks which is a nice amount, i’ve also cut a little fat, not much.
I did not understand it was fake test from reading all the bullshit about your puffy nipples, your bacne and your increased sex drive. And just before my post you stated your going to keep injecting… But alright I got it now, it was fake test.
I would not advise ABBH for an on cycle workout program or even TRIBEX for that matter… Grow some balls and do a demanding workout if your gonna be juicing. Thanks for the stat regarding how much test our bodies produce naturally.
And 400mg (thought you were on 500mg) a week is still low as the typical recommened dosage of Test is 500mg-1000mg a week. Don’t be using the word fact when there are so many variables on how much mgs. of test would be optimal for each individual.
[quote]LilDaDDyDreW wrote:
I did not understand it was fake test from reading all the bullshit about your puffy nipples, your bacne and your increased sex drive. And just before my post you stated your going to keep injecting… But alright I got it now, it was fake test.
I would not advise ABBH for an on cycle workout program or even TRIBEX for that matter… Grow some balls and do a demanding workout if your gonna be juicing. Thanks for the stat regarding how much test our bodies produce naturally.
And 400mg (thought you were on 500mg) a week is still low as the typical recommened dosage of Test is 500mg-1000mg a week. Don’t be using the word fact when there are so many variables on how much mgs. of test would be optimal for each individual.[/quote]
I know you mean well bro, but you don’t know shit. What i mean by that is you don’t even know if im still doing ABBH or not, i finished it like first week of my cycle, but u still choose to attack me from that angle. Also how is 500mg test a little for a newbie first cycle? please explain.
From everything i have read anything over 600mg test a week for a newbie would out way the sides\benefits (so why take more than that?). I know friends who have gained 30lbs with 500mg a week on a 10 week cycle (First Cycle).
Anyways I’m truely sad that the site i ordered from is selling fake eco oil sachets, and yes I’m 100% certain there fake, I’m gonna speak to a friend to see if i can get it tested. Oh and about my libido, well im 22 and my sex drive is always high, i guess placebo owned me. I recently ordered some more sachets which on there way from another site, we’ll see how that goes.
The reason i continue to inject for another 2 weeks or so is, i’ve done 6weeks already i guess another 2 won’t hurt (maybe i respond really slow to test?) But i doubt it anyway.
OP, you come off as narrow minded and obviously not very committed to your training considering how often you skip out. Not to mention how overly defensive you are about it.
The lines that distinguish a training/cycle log and a personal online journal are starting to blur here.
Not 400 (your dosage) mgs probablly 250mg or 300 mgs 2x a week…
At least your Eco oils were a great placebo and you got over the fear of injecting yourself for up and coming cycles.
Do not get emotional over my comments about ABBH. Me and you just approach things differently. If this was my first cycle I would have stuck with one demanding workout (demanding periodization) and logged my workouts and diet on a notebook to track my progress day in and day out. I would have been so hyped to do my first cycle that I would not have started the cycle till I finished what workout routine I was currently on, which for you happened to be ABBH…
Heh, yeah thx man i hope this second order is some good stuff. I tried searching everywhere on the net\forums for fake eco oils, havn’t found anything even contacted live support on the site i ordered from, and even the customer service rep said something is def wrong and that i should contact dist center which i have. Oh and just to clear things up i was injecting 500mg per week, reason my first post said 400mg every week was, when i first started the cycle i didn’t have enough ‘gear’ but then soon later i got myself 30ml of enan. :\ Just be wary if your buying Eco oils. But it surprises me cause the site i ordered from seems legit, i’ve got clen from there, which seems to work well. Yes the jabbing myself was a great experience, for future cycles if i get some real shit :(.
I cant wait for their response, have to wait about 2days.
from all the reading i have done, about week 5-6 i should have exploded or atleast gained a great deal of strength which i haven’t. Yesterdays and Todays workouts i have felt weak as a butterfly no strength gains at all, even a decline from last week. I’m starting to think the Eco Oil sachets i received is nothing but pure oil or very under dosed 
and i really don’t wanna be lean atm, just wanna get huge. I finished ABBH, I’m constantly switching programs back and forth and really don’t care what program im on aslong as it looks fine which ABBH is, Ill do it. Also just to let you know if you have done any reading at all the average testosterone your body makes per day is between 4-10mg a day , that = to about 70-100mg a week. So ‘YES’ 250mg injected E3D’s is a nice amount for juicer beginner or not, its a fact. Because its fake juice im 100% certain now, that would mean i gained 3.5kg naturally in 4-5weeks which is a nice amount, i’ve also cut a little fat, not much.