1 day left on my 14 day induction phase - I just didn’t feel like having my first carb up on a Wednesday. I’m hittin up the local Chinese restaurant tomorrow. Oh sweet goodness.
Has anyone ever started the diet on a sunday at around 6pm, and did the 5 days low carb until like friday evening at 6pm and then started the carb load, until sunday?
[quote]gnew70 wrote:
Has anyone ever started the diet on a sunday at around 6pm, and did the 5 days low carb until like friday evening at 6pm and then started the carb load, until sunday?[/quote]
While this is not the standard guideline to make the shift on the anabolic diet, it is close to what is recomended on the Natural Hormonal Enhancement diet by Rob Fagin. In this the startup phase is 7 days with carbs held under 20 grams.
I did the Anabolic Diet from August-Jan, and while I saw OK results, I believe I could have done better if I had been able to play the carb ups a little better. With the NHE, which I am currently on, I felt as if I made the shift much quicker and the carb ups are more fool proof-every 3rd and 4th day, ie a Sunday then Wednesday, Sunday, etc. The guidelines are you eat 100-200 grams of carbs on the last two meals of the day with at least 70% or so being from starches. Also at these times, you are to keep protein and fat under 20 grams at these two meals.
I didn’t mean to get off on a tangent, just thought I would outline the NHE for those like myself who like eating the Anabolic way, but might ulitimately be compromising results with the leniancy that the weekend long carb ups can offer.
March 24th, 2006…
Friday night…
6pm…
1 turkey sandwhich on whole wheat
1/2 a large cheese pizza
8 BBQ wings
Bowl of Kashi Go Lean Crunch
1 slice cina-flavored coffee cake
1 shortbread cookie
1/2 a whole wheat bagel with jam
2 cups vanilla ice cream
1 bag fat-free popcorn
1 Metabolic Drive bar
1 handful Chex
4 cups skim milk
9pm… carb coma!
I woke up this morning surprised to find my stomach full but not particularly distended. I figured since the load was so fast and severe I’d assuredly put on fat - I appear to have negated that bullet however. I decided to extend the load into this morning a bit. I’m still two pounds lighter than when I began the anabolic diet two weeks ago. I already have a sick pump going on.
This morning’s collateral damage included an apple, a whole wheat bagel w/ cream cheese, and two bowls of raisin bran with skim milk. I can see myself smoothing out so I’m going to reign in the carb consumption as I feel darn good (and very full). I’ll probably rely mostly on fruits and oatmeal for the rest of the day, if that. I’m just so full at the moment!
To think that this is how I used to eat when I was a kid everyday, plus about a gallon of coca cola. No wonder I was fat!
By the way, where has DH been lately?
“Also, can someone be addicted to the serotonin release caused by the consumption of carbohydrates? I found myself eating and for the first time realizing I was trying to elicit that physiological response, but wasn’t getting it because (duh) I was eating protein and fat. I’ve classically conditioned myself to expect that serotonin response on the weekend. This was (literally) the first time since I’ve started my physique recomposition efforts, which was over two years ago, where I didn’t eat a higher proportion of carbs on the weekend.”
----There is a lot of info about this in the book, “Lights Out” that Dan John reccomends.
If you go truly bat shit insane on your first carb up (mine only lasted 24 hours), to the point where your lips break out and you start having a quasi-allergic reaction to carbs (although it could be the milk doing it, who knows), could you actually “break” the diet and go out of fat burning mode and need to do an reintroduction cycle, or am I just way overthinking this?
[quote]zdrax wrote:
If you go truly bat shit insane on your first carb up (mine only lasted 24 hours), to the point where your lips break out and you start having a quasi-allergic reaction to carbs (although it could be the milk doing it, who knows), could you actually “break” the diet and go out of fat burning mode and need to do an reintroduction cycle, or am I just way overthinking this?[/quote]
Staying or leaving fat burning mode depends on the duration of the carb load (>2.5-3 days) and not on the amounts of carbs consumed.
So if you go nuts about carbs but don’t eat them more than 2 days in a row, you’ll just get fatter.
Well, after lurking here for a few weeks, nearly reading the entire thread, purchasing PDF, and convincing the wife the diet wasn’t dangerous or crazy, I am on day 5. I think I am in the middle of the “crash” or “wall” at this point. I have been keeping carbs under 30 with fats and protein high.
I have been sleeping like a rock at night – not evening hearing the little ones crying at night. (That’s my story, and I’m sticking to it.) Workouts have been good to this point, today is a proscribed rest day, thankfully.
This morning, I woke up feeling pretty jazzed up. Took the usual vitamins, oils and fiber with a cup of hot green tea. Waiting about 45 minutes for the stomach to process then attacked four eggs with a cubed pork chop and 1/2 cup of jack cheese. I barely managed to clean up the mess before I headed back to bed – and slept for another 2 to 3 hours. Unreal. I slept a minimum of 8 the night before.
I am staying very full on this diet, and have yet to hit 18x my 255 lbs in calories. According to fitday, I am around 3,000 per day.
I am excited about seeing the results from this diet. I think I am a bit thinner already and have lost 3 or 4 pounds, if my crappy scale is correct.
Wonderful thread, guys and girls.
Bacon is nature’s perfect food.
Gerry
I’ve been on the AD for about 5+ weeks, and have lost about 12 pounds. I, too, was leery about the weekend carbups, but they are necessary to avoid lousy workouts. I’m trying to lose some fat, so i keep the carbup to 24 hours. For instance, on a fully-depleted Friday morning, my weight was 215.6. After scarfing down 2 pints of Ben & Jerry’s after pizza and spaghetti, I bravely got on the scale this morning, and weighed 215.4. Fear not the weekend carbups - enjoy them!
Hank
I’ve also noticed that after a while, my weight tends to stay the same or close to the same depleted as compared to “carbed-up”. At first I recall the fluctuations shooting somewhere around 7 or 8 pounds, however, this is now not the case.
Even the smallest traces of guilt from eating lots of carbs on the weekend disappeared the moment i fully understood that this wasn’t some kind of reward for staying on the diet all week, but more like a stop to a gas station for a quick fill-up. Derek put it nicely on a previous post.
On the other hand, one should take into consideration how hard his week was(totally glycogen depleted or not) before deciding the duration and the volume of each carb up.
I had to come read some of the thread to get my sanity back. Some of the shit I read in the nutrition forum makes me wanna punch walls.
For dinner I had a steak and some shrimp with a spinach salad, and NO, I did NOT measure my olive oil.
Don’t feel guilty about the carbs. It’s not a cheat…it’s a part of the diet. If you feel that bad, then stay away from junk food and rely on clean carbs.
I am tempted to go into full rant mode after reading some of the vile shit in the nutrition forum tonight …but, people overanalize tooooooo much in regards to diet.
Oh, and 1880, bitches!
Nicely done.
Anyone have any fat loss / mass gains of late?
I’ve been on the diet around a week now – just polished off a filet for dinner. Unfortunately, it wasn’t bacon wrapped.
I am noticing some nice leaning out. I have my bad fat, measurements and blood work done at day one. I will update the results in a few weeks (probably 6 or so.)
[quote]IL Cazzo wrote:
Don’t feel guilty about the carbs. It’s not a cheat…it’s a part of the diet. If you feel that bad, then stay away from junk food and rely on clean carbs.
I am tempted to go into full rant mode after reading some of the vile shit in the nutrition forum tonight …but, people overanalize tooooooo much in regards to diet. [/quote]
Please, rant on!!! I like this forum and this topic but I would venture a guess that most people here haven’t bought the book. In general, if I have a question about the AD, I just check the book, again, and there it is.
I, personally, hate the word ‘diet’. I don’t ‘diet’. I eat. If I need to lean out, I eat a little less. If I need to bulk up, I eat a little more. Leaning out is rather easy, for me. Especially eating the AD way. It’s the ‘bulking up’ part on the AD that I still have problems with. Hopefully, I’ll have that worked out by fall. I’m long past the ‘fat makes you fat’ mentality. The only real mental block I have left is ‘waist size’ and I’m working on that. This year, however, I’m going more by mirror and calipers and strength than scale. In the past, I didn’t pay much attention to strength when I was leaning out, and paid for it with stagnation over the last few years.
Perhaps, I’ll consult with DH a little more this fall about bulking up the AD way, if he’s willing to do it by PM. I dislike asking one person a question, and getting answers from 10 other people.
Oh yea, for the record, my carb-ups start Friday nite, last meal, and end Sat last meal. If I stay with quality carbs, I don’t bloat too bad. I generally take in 400 to 600 grams of carbs in that time. I’m usually ‘noddin’ by 8pm on Sat.
Hi all!
I just started the diet back up in full force this past Sunday. It’s nice to be back on. It’s been forever since I’ve been on it and I feel so much better even after 4 days.
Anywho, just wanted to introduce myself to those of you who don’t remember or know me. Hopefully I won’t need too much butt-kicking.
One question for you guys/gals: What are some of your favorite snacks between meals? I’m partial to nuts, cheese and jerky…but I’d like to here other ideas from the gang.
Toodles!
-BD
Bookem, didn’t you get married? How’s married life treating you? 
[quote]Jillybop wrote:
Bookem, didn’t you get married? How’s married life treating you?
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Hi Jilly!
Yes I did, amazing that you remember that. The funny thing is, that’s pretty much when I stopped my whole diet/exercise program - it went south…lol
Married life is great! I am so very lucky to have a wife as wonderful as I do. I must have put on about 10 pounds since July though, so I’ve rededicated myself to get things on track. I’m sitting at about 248 right now at 6’. I’m looking to drop about 30lbs in the next few months…and yes, I have it to lose. My bodyfat is probably around 27%, so I have some work to do.
How are you liking the diet so far?
-BD