[quote]Sonny S wrote:
What is everyone eating for breakfast these days that does not use eggs?[/quote]
Can’t help you, B’fast has been eggs and flax meal.
Anyway, I’m on day 6 of the AD. I’m loving the food, never hungry, lots of steaky, cheesy, eggy goodies. The only problem I’m getting is that of energy, both physically and mentally. The last two days my workouts have suffered and I basically feel like I’m running on very little. I hope I’m doing everything right.
Would someone take a gander at my weeks Fitday profile, make sure I’m on the right track? Would be mucho appreciated.
Yesterday I had a 7 pm workout,a 12 pm workout,a 2 am workout and a late night cardio session.That’s 4 + hours of hard work,and i didn’t experience a lack of energy for a second of it.
[quote]Sonny S wrote:
What is everyone eating for breakfast these days that does not use eggs?[/quote]
I’m all about the egg. Honestly, eggs with some kind of meat gives me more energy for the day than anything else.
Plus, I treat breakfast as my dinner, it’s by far my biggest meal, then lunch, shakes and a very small dinner.
My perfect breakfast is spinach, garlic, and onion, sauteed in EV Olive oil. Then 4-5 eggs and 1-2oz feta cheese. Coffee or Spike. I actually get euphoric after eating that.
Now, on the few times where I have to run out of the house w/o my eggs…where I’ll have to just drink a shake, I feel like crapola.
However, since you want an eggless breakfast, just use leftovers from the nigt before.
Or, since you are a fellow I-tai, get some good lunchmeat and put in on a salad.
Looks pretty good. Are you counting fiber as carbs? Personally, I don’t include fiber in my carb count.
If I had one suggestion, it would be take more flax meal for the extra fiber. I know you’re taking 4tbs plus some spinach, but, for me, more fiber = more fat loss and I feel better.
Something to think about…overall, looks good though.
Great AD recipe:
Got tired of plain egg omelette and needed some more fat at the end of the day.
5 eggs
50 g sunflower seeds
Fry in a pan with the seeds on top of the omelette
Tastes good!
At 83,7 kgs carb depleted.Usually shoot up to around 88-89 during carb load.
I’m taking in 3700-3900 kcal a day,290-300 g of fat and 190-200 g protein.
Now some internal masses may have changes as Mauro says,but i think I’ll have to go beyond 4000 to grow…for the past three years I’ve lived on 2000 kcal or below.I.Love.The.AD.
DH covers VS on page 33 of the thread. Check it out.
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Vas, thanks-
I re-read his post on pg 33 and your reply to it- Have you been using VS regularly on this diet? If so, with what results?
I’m also on my 2nd big bottle of liver tabs, Jay Robb brand I think, but I’m not noticing much of anything as a result of taking them. Any suggestions? Maybe I’m under-dosing. I take 2 w/each meal.
So, I have another recipe sure to make experienced cooks cringe with horror and bachelor student types rejoice.
I was cooking up a half a pound of ground turkey, my staple meat. Not so much for it’s nutritional value but for it’s price mind you, and I saw I had a packet of chili seasoning. I thought, hey I’ll make some sort of chili like substance. The packet has 16 grams of carbs in a whole packet, and I used a dash, so lets say a quarter packet and 4 carbs there. I threw it on the meat and crumbled it real good in the pan. Then I added about a 1/8 or 1/4 cup of shitty salsa I had in the fridge. (It was what was left in the bottom of the jar, so I guestimate the amount. Again by guestimate about 4 grams of carbs.)
Thats it, threw it together, added some tabasco and jalepeno salt, put cheese on it and it was delicious. Just an extremely meaty, watery chili.
If I’d had a chili pepper it would have been heaven…
I found my best results by taking about 20 liver tabs from JR. It didn’t blow my doors off like a double black coffee, but it elevated me in a ramp like fashion over a week or two and then when I went cold turkey off of it, I “knew what I was missin’”.
Hopefully that helps. If not, then drop’em. Not all things work for all people, especially in the supplement arena.
On VS, the best time to take it, possibly for someone like HogLover, is toward the end of the carb load/on the first low carb day. Two things:
This will keep it from doing the job of insulin too well and thus preventing optimal insulin levels from ramming the ol’ CHO into the muscle.
Be prepared to maybe feel a quick blood sugar drop. For some, VS can hit you quick. Make sure to have some good quality fat/protein food on monday morning (or whenever you start the low carb portion). A good higher cal breakfast will go a long way in allowing blood sugar to coast down and not crash. The VS can make this a faster transition that will then speed up the process of clearing out all extraneous glucose in the blood and getting muscle glycogen levels maxed out. You’ll then be able to rebound back to fatty acids as your primary energy source again theoretically faster than you would normally.
VS taken in such an abrupt fashion (usually 1-2 tabs of 7.5 or 10mg on monday morning) will give you the good without the potential negatives. Give it a spin and see how you feel/look.
On the topic of AD safe meals, I’m loving boiling some eggs, peeling them and chucking on some cheese on top, so it melts, and topping it off with flax meal. OMG. I can’t believe I’m allowed to eat this.
Currently, I’m only CHO loading for one meal every week. I have found no reason to take VS with such a small duration in my load. But all folks are different. I suggest you experiment. I do constantly. However, I STRONGLY suggest supplementing with ALA. Research it. It’s cost-effective and the benefits for your body are numerous.
Liver tabs… I’m a fan for a couple of reasons: I find such a small amount of protein very useful in my wave approach to the AD. I also think supplementing with B-complex vitamins are VERY important on the AD and/or training with heavy weight; liver tabs are a good source. I’ve never used the brand you mention, so I cannot fairly comment on how efficiently they are absorbed, protein content, or if your consuming enough.
I completely agree with DH that liver tabs aren’t for everyone. But, I can sure tell when I cycle off of them.
What does everyone on this diet do for post-workout, right now all I am doing I just getting some protein, should I have some carbs post-workout or not while doing the ad?
Here’s what I posted a few days ago on this subject…
I lifted for about 9 years before I ever heard of Surge…Tried it, made no difference to me. I go pro/fat post workout. Usually whey and either fish oil caps or olive oil.
I’ve also tried just protein…IMO p/f works better.
I think that if you are adapted to this diet, and are a person who responds best to pro and fat, then why ingest a butt-load of sugar pw?
Fitday does not automatically subtract fiber, because technically it is still a carb.[/quote]
Awesome, so technically I still have 12 ACTIVE carbs under my belt? Hooray! Shit, I never thought I would get excited over 12 carbs, hahaha.
I’ve just started day 8 over here, yesterday was the first day where I felt constant, consistent energy. And I’ve been sleeping at night like a log. This is the best eating plan ever.
Also, ON’s Choc Whey + Heavy Cream + Peanut Butter = so freaking good.
Absolutely true on ALA, Vas. Also keep us posted on your progress as far as strength and fat loss on such a small load. Would be very interesting to test the lower limits of the diet as we know that 36-48 hours is the top end. This could be very educational. How much CHO are you getting in this weekly meal?