My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

Jeez-
The guy makes one post and he gets # 1000 : )

OWNED, BOYS!

Hoss hauls in the big “1000”.

Everybody over to my place for a cookout this weekend.

[quote]trosario wrote:
Just had my first official AD lunch. (Don’t worry I won’t post every meal I have in a thread). Meal consisted of salad w/bleu cheese dressing, piece of chicken, piece of pork, and some creamed spinach. I was a little hesitant about the spinach, wasn’t sure the amount of carbs so I didn’t finish it all.

I’m already feeling better compared to the really low cal diet I’ve been on. I was going to grab a bag of peanuts for a snack later, but from reading the label it said it contained about 7 grams carbs per serving. These were unsalted peanuts too. I really enjoy nuts but I don’t want to throw the diet off because of the unnecessary carbs they have. Can anyone recommend any really low cal type of nut? [/quote]

Dude-
Blue cheese dressing probable has a ton of carbs in it (anyone correct me if I’m wrong) and maybe even a significant anount in the cream spinich. Check EVERYTHING. As DH noted, even check the CHO in your shampoo. You only have about 35g to play with- use them wisely. As far as nuts, I think almonds are the best. 6g of carbs per 25 pieces but 3/4 are fiber which don’t count.

Wow, I just read most of this thread (I have a lot of free time today) and I am very much amazed by all of the positive results. I think I might get ready to start the Anabolic Diet, but first I have a few questions:

  1. I am currently on my second week of ABBH. Will I be setting myself back by switching from a regular bulking diet (4000 cals) to AD?

  2. I haven’t seen much about how healthy this diet is. Stuffing down that much saturated fat doesn’t seem right, probably because I have been brainwashed for years. Anybody know more about the health consequences of this, particularly long term?

  3. I’ve noticed that many seem to have lost fat and gained muscle. Is this something I can expect from the diet?

A little bit about myself:

22 years old
185 pounds
12-13% body fat (up from 9 a couple months ago)

Thanks for the advice!

Blue Cheese Dressing:
1 Tablespoon: 77 cals, 8g fat, 1g carb, 1g protein.

WALNUTS are your friend. 1/4 cup of walnuts contains 19-20g fats(2.5g omega 3s), 3g carbs-3g fiber=0carbs, and 5-6g protein.

I use a nut-grinder to breakup some walnuts to small bits. I then throw 1/4 cup of walnuts into a blender with 2 scoops vanilla Low-Carb Grow!, 2oz heavy whipping cream, some cinnamon and nutmeg, and some cold water/ice. Blend until its a little thinner than cake batter. This tastes like drinking a coffee-cake without the crappy carbs. This is awesome for either breakfast or as a dessert. -The Starkdog

[quote]justinf77 wrote:
Wow, I just read most of this thread (I have a lot of free time today) and I am very much amazed by all of the positive results. I think I might get ready to start the Anabolic Diet, but first I have a few questions:

  1. I am currently on my second week of ABBH. Will I be setting myself back by switching from a regular bulking diet (4000 cals) to AD?

  2. I haven’t seen much about how healthy this diet is. Stuffing down that much saturated fat doesn’t seem right, probably because I have been brainwashed for years. Anybody know more about the health consequences of this, particularly long term?

  3. I’ve noticed that many seem to have lost fat and gained muscle. Is this something I can expect from the diet?

A little bit about myself:

22 years old
185 pounds
12-13% body fat (up from 9 a couple months ago)

Thanks for the advice![/quote]

this was originally Vince Gironda’s diet the legend among body builders( Vince trained Arnold among others). As for healt consequences there are none, your health will improve! for your own sake chek out www.second-opinion.co.uk and click on low carb dieting also google weston a. price and Dan John’s diet page, allthough the former two allow certain fruit and veggies. Do not be concerned you will be helthier eating this way.

Hazelnuts, (or filberts) also. 1/4 cup of hazelnuts has 17.3g Fat, 4.7-2.8=1.9g CHO, 4.2g Protein. I don’t have any cool ways to prepare 'em though. Just buy raw and eat!
-CA

[quote]starkdog wrote:
trosario wrote:Can anyone recommend any really low cal type of nut?

WALNUTS are your friend. 1/4 cup of walnuts contains 19-20g fats(2.5g omega 3s), 3g carbs-3g fiber=0carbs, and 5-6g protein.

I use a nut-grinder to breakup some walnuts to small bits. I then throw 1/4 cup of walnuts into a blender with 2 scoops vanilla Low-Carb Grow!, 2oz heavy whipping cream, some cinnamon and nutmeg, and some cold water/ice. Blend until its a little thinner than cake batter. This tastes like drinking a coffee-cake without the crappy carbs. This is awesome for either breakfast or as a dessert. -The Starkdog

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Oh, and one more question that I haven’t seen covered.

What happens if one must cheat during the course of the week and have carbs and a drink one night?

I know this is never a MUST, but there are some occasions where it is extremely tough to avoid. For example, a few weeks ago I was invited out to a friend’s place for his birthday and his girlfriend cooked dinner for everyone, which was veggie stir fry already mixed in with rice.

What’s the best way to rebound if this happens?

What is everyone mixing their protein shakes with? I’ve read of whipping cream, but it seems like a little overboard for myself. I’m using the Carb Countdown milk, 3 carbs down from about 8 from regular milk.

[quote]trosario wrote:
What is everyone mixing their protein shakes with? I’ve read of whipping cream, but it seems like a little overboard for myself. I’m using the Carb Countdown milk, 3 carbs down from about 8 from regular milk.[/quote]

for extra 1000kcal try coconut milk if you’re bulking! it works

I’m finishing up my 2nd day on this diet and I’ve been friggin lovin’ it! I’m hungry all the time! I don’t pig out, i keep my meals somewhat small so I can spread out about 5 meals throughout the day. But man am I hungry within 2 - 2.5 hours. I’m about to go grab a late night snack. What are some of people’s fav late nighters?

For those of you currently on the diet, how has your sex drive been? I’ve read that cutting carbs can diminish it, but I imagine that this effect would be counteracted by the increase in hormone production.

Thoughts?

[quote]justinf77 wrote:
For those of you currently on the diet, how has your sex drive been? I’ve read that cutting carbs can diminish it, but I imagine that this effect would be counteracted by the increase in hormone production.

Thoughts?[/quote]

Well, I’ve been EXTREMELY horny while on this diet. I havent used Alpha Male in a month, but I can feel this diet kicking the balls into high gear. This may be TMI, but the morning wood is outrageous! I have to wake up 1/2 hour earlier to “finish business” and let things subside. Don’t worry about loss of libido when low-carbing, especially on this diet. Remember, fats are like diesel fuel, and carbs are like octane boosters. -Starkdog

Important question guys. I’m on my carb up weekend yesterday and today. I successfully completed the induction phase. My main concern about this weekend is setting myself back. At the beginning of the induction phase I weight 205. At the end I weight 201. I had a free-for-all yesterday and this morning I’m back to 205 just like that. If I continue to eat carbs today am I going to set myself even further back and have to start all over or is this just part of the process?

I’m a little worried here.

Apart from the weight, are you pants fitting slightly better than before. I have been on the AD for 6 weeks now and am about 6 pounds heavier but my waist is down 2 inches so dont worry about the weight.

Also be careful with your carb up days, Dr D advises 1-2 days of carb ups with stopping carb up when beginning to get smooth. You dont have to do 2 full days.
DH suggests starting Fri/Sat afternoon/evening and ending Sat/Sun night.

I get best results with 24-36 hrs carbups. Have also tried a 15 hr only carbup.

Quality of carbups will get better with time. My initial 2-3 carb ups were all done with 50% junk food but now I just dont feel like eating junk.

Whats funny is that all week whenever I get a craving for carb foods,I tell myself I will have that during the carbup but when it comes time to carbup I dont feel like eating those foods. This has been happening for the last 2-3 weeks now.

Anyway, good luck and stick with it

D

[quote]HogLover wrote:
Important question guys. I’m on my carb up weekend yesterday and today. I successfully completed the induction phase. My main concern about this weekend is setting myself back. At the beginning of the induction phase I weight 205. At the end I weight 201. I had a free-for-all yesterday and this morning I’m back to 205 just like that. If I continue to eat carbs today am I going to set myself even further back and have to start all over or is this just part of the process?

I’m a little worried here. [/quote]

[quote]HogLover wrote:
Important question guys. I’m on my carb up weekend yesterday and today. I successfully completed the induction phase. My main concern about this weekend is setting myself back. At the beginning of the induction phase I weight 205. At the end I weight 201. I had a free-for-all yesterday and this morning I’m back to 205 just like that. If I continue to eat carbs today am I going to set myself even further back and have to start all over or is this just part of the process?

I’m a little worried here. [/quote]

I just replied to your other thread, but I figure I can post basically the same thing here. There was another poster who warned you against the dangers of “weighing yourself every day like an anorexic teenage girl”. On this diet your weight WILL go up and down. This is due to the body’s increased affinity for carbs, which forces it to store as much water as possible over the course of the carb up.

In fact, I would say that if your weight isn’t fluctuating by a few pounds before and after the carb-up, then you are not getting enough carbs or fluids. My advice to you is to go at least 2 weeks without weighing yourself, and get a good tape measure. Or hell, don’t take any measurements and just go by your pants fitting. I think you will be very happy with the results.
-CA

What are the guys that are using this to cut doing for cardio? In the AS book he says 2-3days a week, but that was about it.

What type? How long? How many days a week? etc.

Right now I’m currently doing lowfat diet and I’m going to switch to this diet. I’m doing 5 days a week, 45mins, empty stomach in the morning cardio.

[quote]hotstreet wrote:
What are the guys that are using this to cut doing for cardio? In the AS book he says 2-3days a week, but that was about it.

What type? How long? How many days a week? etc.

Right now I’m currently doing lowfat diet and I’m going to switch to this diet. I’m doing 5 days a week, 45mins, empty stomach in the morning cardio.[/quote]

I’ve personally had success with fasted early morning x-vest walks, interval sprinting, and 400m sprinting while on this diet. I don’t think you really need to tailor any sort of “cardio” to the diet, it will work regardless of what energy-systems work you decide to do.
-CA

I myself am going to incorporate morning cardio with this diet. I had my first cardio session yesterday while on the diet and my energy was through the roof compared to the low cal diet I’ve been on for the past 5.5 weeks. I’m going to be doing the eliptical for 20min on empty stomach 4-6 days/week and see how what my results produce. I’ll wait til about a month to effectively and accurately evaluate my progress. Btw, this diet rocks!

Man, I just got done with what was probably the worst carb load ever. Tons of junk. Had a couple of family affairs and decided why the hell not. The beauty of it is, by tomorrow I’ll be back to all PF meals and everything will be right with the world! At the start of this last carb load I was down 23 pounds (280 to 257)from my starting weight, in a little over two months.