I ended up only eating about 3500-3700cal yesterday. I can’t imagine someone eating 10k as mentioned in the book! My 18xBW is only about 2800, but when I began, I tried to get somwhere more around 3000-3500 since I was eating MORE than maintenance prior to starting.
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Ha i took a double take when i read that the first time as well. But I am pretty sure now he said 10,000 cal weekends… not per day. That is a lot more doable!!!
Also, just curious… since your goal on this diet is leanness… why start off at the higher cal level? I know you were eating more then maintenance before but wouldn’t going down to maintenance be a good first step?
Day 1, can’t really say much as I’ve only had one meal today which consisted of 6 pieces of bacon and 3 eggs fried in the bacon fat with some shredded cheese on top. I have a hard time believing that people are having a hard time getting to their desired calories as I’ve inputted this meal into fitday and was at almost 800 calories alone with just this meal.
BTW, I told my old man about this diet and he wants in too. He’s a retired military guy with a lot more hours under the iron than me at 55 years old. I wish I could answer his medical questions but I just don’t have the knowledge so maybe someone can help me out. He’s worried about taxing the liver- having to process all this excess fat and cholesterol. What do you guys think?
I was wondering about the liver/cholesterol as well, Once being on this diet for about 3-4 weeks im going in to have my blood tested, then I will let you guys know my numbers, I know there is “good” and “bad” cholesterol, the Dr. has an example of it in the AD book, can’t remember what page, but he shows a person’s blood levels who had been on the diet for awhile, I know people who have been doing this diet for years.
Anyone have a suggestion…I am going to Whistler for a week with my friend’s family, its going to be impossible to eat what I am normally eating on the AD, any ideas? I am still bulking.
I try to limit my sodium intake, however it is hard when everything has sodium, but I guess the main sources are burgers, bacon, sausage. I do eat these everyday but try to limit then, If I want to add more calories i might add more olive oil or heavy whipping cream instead of another burger.
[quote]bigdaveo1988 wrote:
I was wondering about the liver/cholesterol as well, Once being on this diet for about 3-4 weeks im going in to have my blood tested, then I will let you guys know my numbers, I know there is “good” and “bad” cholesterol, the Dr. has an example of it in the AD book, can’t remember what page, but he shows a person’s blood levels who had been on the diet for awhile, I know people who have been doing this diet for years.
Anyone have a suggestion…I am going to Whistler for a week with my friend’s family, its going to be impossible to eat what I am normally eating on the AD, any ideas? I am still bulking.
I try to limit my sodium intake, however it is hard when everything has sodium, but I guess the main sources are burgers, bacon, sausage. I do eat these everyday but try to limit then, If I want to add more calories i might add more olive oil or heavy whipping cream instead of another burger.[/quote]
If you keep your saturated fat to 1/3 or less of your overall fats, you’ll likely be in good shape. Older folks may want to increase the unsaturated to an even higher level. Heavy whipping cream has a lot of saturated fat. Don’t substitute a high quality burger with whipping cream, the nutritional make-up of that burger is much better.
Hm. To accomplish my leanness goal, right now, I’m using today to see how ‘not trying too hard’ ends up calorically (i.e. not cramming in the last calories before bed). From there, I’m going to see where I ‘boosted’ meals and take a boost or two out to lower the cals.
I think I’ll keep that caloric intake steady for a while, like a week or two, and then assess John-Berardi style.
Honestly, this diet is shaping up a bit. I felt really good having vegetables and full workout drinks over the weekend. I also felt I looked fuller, especially in the chest. I was really hating myself this past week for looking skinny fat haha.
How many grams of carbohydrates do you guys shoot for on the weekends? I was thinking 600-800.
Additionally, this diet has made me realized the importance of fat in adding calories. When lowering the fat on the weekend, I had to eat so much more to make up for the doubled caloric value of fats.
I also had another question. I learned in some class during school years ago that carbs/protein are ACTUALLY 4.5 calories per gram. Yet, I’ve never seen this in any of the nutritional texts, articles, or forums I’ve read. Has anyone else heard this? I’ve been using it in my calculations and hope it hasn’t been skewing things incorrectly.
Oh by the way, the nitrites are in the bacon I eat every morning, pepperoni which I just bought, and I think they might be in the sausages and/or brats I got.
I don’t like Italian sausage that much but goddamn do I love brats!
nz6, I’m with you on the brats. I just bought a huge pack of Italian sausage from Costco and miss my brats. I’ll be switching back to brats but will miss boiling them in beer. Beer + Brats = explosive juiciness.
I somewhat disagree. With the AD, its high fat, moderate protein. If you are getting 1g/lb of protein, get some more fat instead of eating another burger. The AD is protein/muscle sparing. Also, saturated fat is supposed to help with this diet. I sometimes take a swig of heavy whipping cream if I’m a little hungry in between meals/before bed.
[quote]gabex wrote:
I somewhat disagree. With the AD, its high fat, moderate protein. If you are getting 1g/lb of protein, get some more fat instead of eating another burger. The AD is protein/muscle sparing. Also, saturated fat is supposed to help with this diet. I sometimes take a swig of heavy whipping cream if I’m a little hungry in between meals/before bed.[/quote]
I have an ounce of whipping cream every day too in a shake, but that is not what the question was. It was about substituting an entire burger for whipping cream. Lets take a typical angus burger he could get on this weekend of his.
Angus Burger
410 calories - 252 calories from fat - only 99 calories saturated - 158 calories protein
61% fat 39% protein
Heavy Whipping Cream - to get the same caloric intake it would take 4 ounces of whipping cream
391 calories - 368.8 fat - 234 calories saturated.
94% fat 3% protein 3% carbs
Now which has the better anabolic profile? Whipping cream has its place, but not as a meal substitute. Taking swigs of flax oil or olive oil would be a better option as well - but don’t overdue that either, thats why I strike a balance between all three.
[quote]TITI MATIBAY wrote:
Day 1, can’t really say much as I’ve only had one meal today which consisted of 6 pieces of bacon and 3 eggs fried in the bacon fat with some shredded cheese on top. I have a hard time believing that people are having a hard time getting to their desired calories as I’ve inputted this meal into fitday and was at almost 800 calories alone with just this meal.
BTW, I told my old man about this diet and he wants in too. He’s a retired military guy with a lot more hours under the iron than me at 55 years old. I wish I could answer his medical questions but I just don’t have the knowledge so maybe someone can help me out. He’s worried about taxing the liver- having to process all this excess fat and cholesterol. What do you guys think?[/quote]
I don’t think his liver would have any problems with a bunch of fat and cholesterol. The more cholesterol you eat, the less your body produces. There are a lot of misconceptions regarding cholesterol…Proteinpower.com/drmike has some good info if you search around. I’d be more worried about slamming the liver with a bunch of sugars on the weekend.
If he’s in good health, I don’t see why this would be worse than the typical american diet. However, I’m not a doctor…
[quote]nz6stringaxe wrote:
Oh by the way, the nitrites are in the bacon I eat every morning, pepperoni which I just bought, and I think they might be in the sausages and/or brats I got.
I don’t like Italian sausage that much but goddamn do I love brats![/quote]
ahh,I don’t eat much in the way of bacon and sausages, unless I buy fresh uncooked ones from the butcher.
It is a preservative in most of the processed meats, I believe.
Sorry, bout the misunderstanding, it sounded like you were not doing too well on the AD.
[quote]nz6stringaxe wrote:
Oh by the way, the nitrites are in the bacon I eat every morning, pepperoni which I just bought, and I think they might be in the sausages and/or brats I got.
I don’t like Italian sausage that much but goddamn do I love brats![/quote]
ahh,I don’t eat much in the way of bacon and sausages, unless I buy fresh uncooked ones from the butcher.
It is a preservative in most of the processed meats, I believe.
Sorry, bout the misunderstanding, it sounded like you were not doing too well on the AD.
So I was up 4.5 pounds from what I weighed in at Saturday night, so looks like those carbs filled me up pretty nicely. I’m going to use the weigh in before the last workout of the week and before the first workout of the week as benchmarks for my weight. I don’t look fatter, so hopefully that is mostly muscle I’m building. Started the process at a stable 184. Made some gains today in my workout from last week as I’m in the second week of TBT. Should get some big gains here as well as I have been on a split for years.
Weighed in at 187.5 today, looking at getting up to 195 before I start a slow cut for the summer. 190 cut would be optimal for me by May 1st.
TITI! Funny you should mention that! The three brats I ate today were made with Wisconsin beer! Ha, I also bought a pack with garlic in them. The beer ones are amazingly good, just as I hoped throwing them into my shopping cart.
Nice! Yup, Wisconsin… the Bratwurst capital. I’m gonna have to give those a shot. But then again I was thinking how much carbs from beer can a brat actually absorb? I’m guessing not that significant.
BTW I went to Target for some Benefiber but found something else called Fiber-Sure which is Inulin (100% Natural vegetable fiber) and is 6g carbs with 5g fiber per serving (1tsp) versus Benefiber 4g/3g (2tsp). A bit more expensive, so not sure if it’s worth the price diff. Anyway, I’m giving it a shot.
Don’t use inulin! It’s a ‘distracting’ carb and digests into other metabolic materials for energy instead of the fat we’re trying to use. (Pg 155 of the Anabolic Solution goes over this. You could use it but it’s 1/3 the calories of an ordinary carb.)
I personally use both pure guar gum and psyllium husk powder. I’d recommend staying away from the brand name fibers just for simplicity.
SHIT. Oh well, can’t return it now. Already opened it. So that 6g CHO would be counted as 2 grams? All good. I’m usually TRYING for the 30g CHO anyways. So far I could do without any carbs.
Starting day 10. My workouts have not suffered at all. And I work out first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. I already get up at 4:00am to workout before i commute into the city so cant get up any earlier. I’d say i may even have a bit more stanima towards the end. No crashes yet. Just a bit fuzzy on days like 2 and 3.
There is one thing that is pissing me off though. I’m worried that my cals aren’t as accurate as I thought. I have been eating a lot of ground beef. I do this because i eat my red meat during the day at work and leaner meats for dinner with olive oil. I figured microwaving steak would be nasty and i can make the ground beef into meatballs or meatloaf etc. Anyway… I started worriying about it because i was counting a lb of beef as around 1150 cals and 80 grms of protein, and 90 grms of fat.
So i started checking what a lb of ground beef was on different sources yesterday and they are alll WAY different. I understand that they sell it from 70% fat to 90% but even when comparing different sources at the same %, they are all way different. Like hundreds of cals different. I’m seeing like 1300 on some to 900 on others.