My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

Nutrition
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Well, I weighed all my food and calculated the calories from Friday. It turns out that I was only eating 11x my bodyweight (which is actually less calories than I was consuming on a conventional diet). I wasn’t hungry, but I definitely was not feeling very energetic either. This is certainly an area I will need to improve on.

The fat/protein/carbohydrate percentages seemed to be OK. They were approximately 60%/35%/5%. I think starting on Monday I will bring the protein up and reduce the fat (but only slightly).

So I have my first carb-up day tomorrow (I am limiting it to once per week instead of twice). I have two questions:

  1. Should I target a certain number of calories, or simply a certain number of carbohydrates (in grams)?

  2. Should I workout tomorrow evening (i.e. will the muscle glycogen stores be restored by then), or leave it until Monday?

Thanks heaps!

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Just finished my first week under maintenance, and onto my second carb up this morning. Definitely have little to no cravings for shitty carbs anymore.

I went from 180lbs to just over 170lbs since the start of this diet. To be fair, though, I was 175lbs pre-Holiday season, so that first weigh in was bloated a bit.

But regardless, a good chunk of weigh has been dropped. I’d call it a success so far.

Mmm oatmeal.

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Anyone hear have any successful stories about bulking up on the Anabolic Diet or having the Diet work even when you started it at a low bodyfat?

I got through the first 23 pages, but most of the guys on there seemed like fat dudes who could stand to lose a bunch of weight.

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[quote]B85 wrote:
Well, I weighed all my food and calculated the calories from Friday. It turns out that I was only eating 11x my bodyweight (which is actually less calories than I was consuming on a conventional diet). I wasn’t hungry, but I definitely was not feeling very energetic either. This is certainly an area I will need to improve on.

The fat/protein/carbohydrate percentages seemed to be OK. They were approximately 60%/35%/5%. I think starting on Monday I will bring the protein up and reduce the fat (but only slightly).

So I have my first carb-up day tomorrow (I am limiting it to once per week instead of twice). I have two questions:

  1. Should I target a certain number of calories, or simply a certain number of carbohydrates (in grams)?

  2. Should I workout tomorrow evening (i.e. will the muscle glycogen stores be restored by then), or leave it until Monday?

Thanks heaps![/quote]

There’s no limit on carbs during the carb up, nor really a recommended amount of calories. I think some have recommended having calories slightly higher during the carb up. If you’re just doing one day, then I’d especially recommend this. If you’re doing 11xBW during the week, then maybe shoot for 15xBW on your carb up day. The recommended macronutrient percentages are Fat 30-40%, Protein 10-15%, Carbs 45-60%.

Working out on the weekend is up to you. I think the book doesn’t recommend it, but others have done it and been ok. Maybe someone else can chime in with their experience.

I should note that the diet is pretty forgiving. As long as you’re keeping the carbs low and getting at least 1 gram/lb. of bodyweight, you can experiment quite a bit. Also, there’s a lot of great info in the first 20 pages or so of this thread.

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[quote]TheBigV wrote:
Anyone hear have any successful stories about bulking up on the Anabolic Diet or having the Diet work even when you started it at a low bodyfat?

I got through the first 23 pages, but most of the guys on there seemed like fat dudes who could stand to lose a bunch of weight.[/quote]

In particular, Disc Hoss, Il Cazzo, and Tiribulus have all used this to bulk…maybe you can find some of their posts. I believe Disc Hoss put on a ton of mass using the AD…couldn’t give you any specific stats though.

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[quote]dlannan wrote:
There’s no limit on carbs during the carb up, nor really a recommended amount of calories. I think some have recommended having calories slightly higher during the carb up. If you’re just doing one day, then I’d especially recommend this. If you’re doing 11xBW during the week, then maybe shoot for 15xBW on your carb up day. The recommended macronutrient percentages are Fat 30-40%, Protein 10-15%, Carbs 45-60%.

Working out on the weekend is up to you. I think the book doesn’t recommend it, but others have done it and been ok. Maybe someone else can chime in with their experience.

I should note that the diet is pretty forgiving. As long as you’re keeping the carbs low and getting at least 1 gram/lb. of bodyweight, you can experiment quite a bit. Also, there’s a lot of great info in the first 20 pages or so of this thread. [/quote]

So, I can eat as much carbs as possible till I’m content? Can I pig out at a buffet? Or is it that I need to eat just as much calories as my weekdays, just change the carb protein fat ratio to 60/30/10?

Thanks!

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this diet is sick, i just had my first carb up weekend , ate rice some breads , had a bit of junk , man what a pump i have !!
Didnt get to the gym though ,i did a set of dips outside on my deck to failure, just to see if i was imagining how swole i felt, i swear my chest was gonna explode.

Back to the weekly eating and fasted morning cardio, 2 large steaks and 12 boiled eggs for breakfast, cant wait to see the results keep increasing, and the bodyfat drop more.

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I tried mixing some pure cocoa together with some heavy cream, thinking it would have an ok taste. It turned into a delicious fluffy mousse type thing. maybe add some splenda, but give it a try!

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Good idea toocul, I’ve been mixing a fruit (blueberries/strawberries), with whipped cream cheese, heavy cream, cottage cheese (Friendship), and Splenda. Very tasty.

I’d like to follow up on TheBigV’s questioning.

He and I are both starting to feel like the Anabolic Diet is not the way for either of us to go. I can’t speak for his biggest concerns, but I for one think most of this is gross.

The food options are extremely diminished, macronutrient paranoia is frustrating, and to be honest, drinking oil and foods slathers in fats and grease are very unappetizing, not to mention the smell/difficulty of cleaning the dishes drenched and caked with saturated and unsaturated fats.

I’m only on day 7 of the first 12 days and still have quite a lot of bacon to go, but I’m really feeling this is not worth what I thought it was. Before anyone tells me to stick through feeling run-down, I’ll mention I feel almost completely fine.

The only physical ailment that has me extremely concerned is my sore wrist. I was expecting my workouts to not be so solid, but not because my wrist would be hurting!

To KingIndy, I normally take about… 10-15 fish/salmon oil caps a day of a fairly high potency in relation to most others I’ve seen. I use NOW Salmon Oil and Optimum Fish Oil in a sort of synergy.

I’ve been reading a lot of CT’s physical transformation experiences along with Berardi’s biggest dietary recommendations and just feel as though my personal flawed experiences with this diet thus far are just outweighing any good that could come from it.

Any thoughts from other newcomers or diehard ADers?

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Hi everybody,

I’m new to the forum and the site. I am not new to the anabolic diet, however. I was on the diet from January to June last year and I can say that it was very effective. I initially stopped doing it because I popped a hammy playing softball.

I didn’t do anything physical and I decided that it would not be good to keep on the diet.

When the hammy got better, I went back to the gym and I actually tore my rotator cuff. I decided to get surgery as the shoulder was sore occasionally from the wear and tear of playing football for 8 years.

During the time I was recouping, I did not do a good job of keeping healthy and I am fat right now. Not orca fat, but fat as compared to what I used to be. My lifts are also way down, as I couldn’t even put up 225 for 1 rep on bench (I could previously rep 375 x 8).

I am happy to report that my deadlift was still relatively high. I had no problem doing 315 x10 (My previous reps were 415x10; I see no need to go higher).

I am excited to see how my body reacts the second time around. I have read that the body responds well when you have done this before, so we’ll see. Good luck to all and I will post my results as I go. Here is my diet on my first day:

    	Today	 Target

Total Cals 2818 4000

       Grams   Cals      Eaten     Target

Total Carbs 10 40 10g 30g
Total Prot 237 949 34% 30-35%
Total Fat 197 1772 64% 55-60%

Please note:

I currently weigh 260. As I want to lose weight, I am not going for the BW * 18; rather, I am going for my target weight. This isn’t prescribed by Dr. D, but I’m not standard body fat either. Also, I have 1 more meal and snack to go.

From experience, I eat my carbs at night. I have trouble sleeping if I eat carbs early. I also feel lethargic. I don’t count fiber as a carb and I eat a ton of broccoli and aspargus. Fish oil in some form is a must.

Good luck to all.

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i ran by this post on a low-carb diet forum:

"Just wantd to say that I have “tested” the yoghurt carb count thing by testing my blood glucose after having eaten a cup of yoghurt, unsweetened, twice without adding anything and twice with blueberries added in an amount that would have put me “over” my carb count if the yoghurt bacteria hadn’t “eaten” some of the carbs.

At no time did I get a significant rise in blood sugar, hence no insulin reaction to worry about. This made me feel comfortable counting one cup of yoghurt as having about 4 effective carbs. I do think the sugars/carbs are “eaten” by the active bacteria in the process of fermentation"

What do you guys think?
its a theory that says that during fermentation bacteria can ‘eat’ about 8gm of sugars leaving 4gm of actual carbs in 1 cup of whole milk yogurt.

The carb count on labels is calculated by evaluation fats, proteins and nutrients and what is not identifiable is attributed to Carbohydrates

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[quote]Machina wrote:

So, I can eat as much carbs as possible till I’m content? Can I pig out at a buffet? Or is it that I need to eat just as much calories as my weekdays, just change the carb protein fat ratio to 60/30/10?

Thanks!
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Kinda depends on your goals. If you’re trying to cut, then you’d probably want to eat an amount similar to your weekday totals. If not, try for more if you want.

How many carbs you can handle is pretty individual…and if you’re new to the diet, it may take you a few weeks to adjust. I know that I was having some loose dumps on my first few carbups.

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^^ also, for the buffet situation you just shorten the length of your carb up and take r-ala before hand and every 2 hours afterward.

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Day 1 folks. Will let you know how it works out.

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Good luck, DJS. I’d love to hear your opening qualms and praises about this diet.

And so ends day 7…

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Thanks! Good luck to you too. Going to post some before pics just for added motivation.

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[quote]nz6stringaxe wrote:
Good idea toocul, I’ve been mixing a fruit (blueberries/strawberries), with whipped cream cheese, heavy cream, cottage cheese (Friendship), and Splenda. Very tasty.

I’d like to follow up on TheBigV’s questioning.

He and I are both starting to feel like the Anabolic Diet is not the way for either of us to go. I can’t speak for his biggest concerns, but I for one think most of this is gross.

The food options are extremely diminished, macronutrient paranoia is frustrating, and to be honest, drinking oil and foods slathers in fats and grease are very unappetizing, not to mention the smell/difficulty of cleaning the dishes drenched and caked with saturated and unsaturated fats.

I’m only on day 7 of the first 12 days and still have quite a lot of bacon to go, but I’m really feeling this is not worth what I thought it was. Before anyone tells me to stick through feeling run-down, I’ll mention I feel almost completely fine.

The only physical ailment that has me extremely concerned is my sore wrist. I was expecting my workouts to not be so solid, but not because my wrist would be hurting!

To KingIndy, I normally take about… 10-15 fish/salmon oil caps a day of a fairly high potency in relation to most others I’ve seen. I use NOW Salmon Oil and Optimum Fish Oil in a sort of synergy.

I’ve been reading a lot of CT’s physical transformation experiences along with Berardi’s biggest dietary recommendations and just feel as though my personal flawed experiences with this diet thus far are just outweighing any good that could come from it.

Any thoughts from other newcomers or diehard ADers?[/quote]

What are your goals? The AD is definitely not for everybody. I myself do not find it gross except for when I am eating too many saturated fats at once in the form of sausage type meats. I’m slowly adjusting the types of fats I am taking in and learning what is most practical to feeling good. I’ll be giving this atleast a couple months to see what kind of results I achieve.

What kind of symptoms are you getting with your wrist? Is it bad enough to see a doctor?

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back double bi. no tan, no pump, no lighting but you get the drift.

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On to Day 8. Made it through the weekend without partaking in any of the constant party activity around me which was the biggest hurdle in the entire induction phase for me. I feel pretty solid right now. I have not had a major crash at all, but I think I could tell for the first time during my leg workout yesterday that my glycogen stores were depleted. Still, I was happy with the workout.

I’m going to be looking to cut out some the saturated fat deli meats and switch over to some more liquid meals that consist of whey, whipping cream, and oil a couple times a day to see how that makes me feel. Very interested to get to the weekend to see what the carb up does for me.

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Ok last one. I have no business doing this one. ha! Not wide enough and not a clue how to do it. My shoulder hurt nicely for about an hour after though. ok so there are the befores. Hopefully putting them up here will keep me motivated come day 11 or 12 when i crash.

Day 1 is good so far today. had six eggs, one glass hood low carb choc milk with two tablesppons EVOO, 5 grms creatine, and one scoop low carb Metabolic Drive so far. still have a ton more to eat today. good luck everyone!