Hi all, I’ve been reading up on the Metabolic Diet, I’ve read The Anabolic Solution for PL’ers and I’m currently reading The Metabolic Diet too.
I have read several times that it’s not a ketogenic diet as such and I shouldn’t be showing ketones in my urine.
I find toward the end of the week I’m showing ketones in my urine, very slightly on a Wednesday and significantly on a Friday.
Can anyone tell me why this is and what I should do in this instance?
Cheers,
Orbulus.
i hate when you cut calories exercise more and gain a lb from the day before…ill just pretend my shirt was carrying more sweat today
i was wondering about the Midt Week carb meal and saturday carb meal. Its supposed to be the last meal that day. But is this in addition to your regular meals? like i eat 2 meals a day following the AD cutting phase. Its breakfast 30% of calories, and a big dinner 70% of the calories. But if im gonna have a carb meal later that evening on wednesday. Do i eat my regular 2 meals ? or do i cut some calories from them aswell? or do i just add the meal
[quote]Orbulus wrote:
Hi all, I’ve been reading up on the Metabolic Diet, I’ve read The Anabolic Solution for PL’ers and I’m currently reading The Metabolic Diet too.
I have read several times that it’s not a ketogenic diet as such and I shouldn’t be showing ketones in my urine.
I find toward the end of the week I’m showing ketones in my urine, very slightly on a Wednesday and significantly on a Friday.
Can anyone tell me why this is and what I should do in this instance?
Cheers,
Orbulus.[/quote]
The doc mentions that ketones stop appearing once youre fully adapted and that can take some time (4-6 months). so don’t worry about it.
[quote]Evil1 wrote:
Orbulus wrote:
Hi all, I’ve been reading up on the Metabolic Diet, I’ve read The Anabolic Solution for PL’ers and I’m currently reading The Metabolic Diet too.
I have read several times that it’s not a ketogenic diet as such and I shouldn’t be showing ketones in my urine.
I find toward the end of the week I’m showing ketones in my urine, very slightly on a Wednesday and significantly on a Friday.
Can anyone tell me why this is and what I should do in this instance?
Cheers,
Orbulus.
The doc mentions that ketones stop appearing once youre fully adapted and that can take some time (4-6 months). so don’t worry about it.
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Ok, thanks for that. I’ll keep using ketostix to monitor my progress.
[quote]dydde wrote:
i was wondering about the Midt Week carb meal and saturday carb meal. Its supposed to be the last meal that day. But is this in addition to your regular meals? like i eat 2 meals a day following the AD cutting phase. Its breakfast 30% of calories, and a big dinner 70% of the calories. But if im gonna have a carb meal later that evening on wednesday. Do i eat my regular 2 meals ? or do i cut some calories from them as well? or do i just add the meal[/quote]
You eat just 2 meals a day??? why would you want to do this if you’re trying to lose weight?
But to answer your question. you eat the same as always but more carbs.
[quote]Evil1 wrote:
dydde wrote:
i was wondering about the Midt Week carb meal and saturday carb meal. Its supposed to be the last meal that day. But is this in addition to your regular meals? like i eat 2 meals a day following the AD cutting phase.
Its breakfast 30% of calories, and a big dinner 70% of the calories. But if im gonna have a carb meal later that evening on wednesday. Do i eat my regular 2 meals ? or do i cut some calories from them as well? or do i just add the meal
You eat just 2 meals a day??? why would you want to do this if you’re trying to lose weight?
But to answer your question. you eat the same as always but more carbs.[/quote]
why not? i will loose as much weight if i eat 2 meals then 4 meals. Study have shown this over and over. Or can you prove something else?
Could someone please give me the main differences between the anabolic diet and the radical diet? I have both the anabolic diet books so what would I need to change to go on the radical diet?
[quote]dydde wrote:
Evil1 wrote:
dydde wrote:
why not? i will loose as much weight if i eat 2 meals then 4 meals. Study have shown this over and over. Or can you prove something else? [/quote]
Not denying that you probably would lose as much weight but it’s not the best long term solution…its the same reasons starvation diets don’t work, your body downgrades its metabolic activity and you plateau sooner than you would making it harder to lose weight.
http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/7habits.htm
the first point is the relevant one
[quote]Evil1 wrote:
dydde wrote:
Evil1 wrote:
dydde wrote:
why not? i will loose as much weight if i eat 2 meals then 4 meals. Study have shown this over and over. Or can you prove something else?
Not denying that you probably would lose as much weight but it’s not the best long term solution…its the same reasons starvation diets don’t work, your body downgrades its metabolic activity and you plateau sooner than you would making it harder to lose weight.
http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/7habits.htm
the first point is the relevant one[/quote]
Also worth noting, eating only two meals you limit the amount of protein and other nutrients that your system can absorb. You also will not keep a constant feed of protein into your system for most of the day that way. Both of those will improve your muscle retention/gain which in turn will make losing fat more effecient.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/mohr16.htm
go about half way down…
ok new curve-ball…
I finished my dinner(sandwich and fries) and thought i should evaluate my response to quick carbs (i fell asleep after 2 slices of ezekiel)…long story short i puked after eating the brownie and ice cream as i found it wayyy to sweet and even though i tried to keep it down with some lemon juice it didn’t help.
ended up puking out a lot of the carbs i took in.
My question is should i continue as normal for this week or carb up again tomorrow
(as of now the arm veins are back…so i’m not holding any water)
[quote]Moon Knight wrote:
Evil1 wrote:
dydde wrote:
Evil1 wrote:
dydde wrote:
why not? i will loose as much weight if i eat 2 meals then 4 meals. Study have shown this over and over. Or can you prove something else?
Not denying that you probably would lose as much weight but it’s not the best long term solution…its the same reasons starvation diets don’t work, your body downgrades its metabolic activity and you plateau sooner than you would making it harder to lose weight.
http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/7habits.htm
the first point is the relevant one
Also worth noting, eating only two meals you limit the amount of protein and other nutrients that your system can absorb. You also will not keep a constant feed of protein into your system for most of the day that way. Both of those will improve your muscle retention/gain which in turn will make losing fat more effecient.[/quote]
hmm interesting. ive also read studies wich have shown that 2 meals is the way to go
i would recommend you check up on the validity of the study etc it’s purpose. 2 meals only would drop your weight but only temporarily and only in a short term.
i would recommend you check up on the validity of the study etc it’s purpose. 2 meals only would drop your weight but only temporarily and only in the short term.
Well i love lo carb, no breads, refined sugars adn the like, so the diet was freakishly easy on me. Actually, I dreaded the weekends…its been so long since I ate carbs taht werent from veg.
anyway, a month later, i quit…my skin condition was horrific to say the least. I had acne all over when I used to be fat, it went away, started this diet, acne all over again…
I guess its not for me, So im back to eating clean and having all my veggies and rolled oats in the morning.
Good luck to everyone else. Oh yeah and the bloating was insane for me also, Dunno why.
Is the body weight x 18 the standard measurement for a cutting diet? Or is it just used for this diet specifically?
I’ve been at a minus 400 calorie diet with about 50g or less of carbs a day. I weigh 190 lbs. I’d say I’m eating around 2700 cals a day.
Do I really need to start at such a high amount of calories when I’m already eating much less? It seems like I’ll start to add on weight. Should I adjust the body weight x 18 for the first four weeks and by how much?
the 18x was a buffer to prevent people from undereating on the induction phase. you are likely to do this because fat satiates our appetite a lot more. The idea, is to give your body more fat to make a switch and low cals won’t do that as fast as high cals
[quote]abearisstrong wrote:
Is the body weight x 18 the standard measurement for a cutting diet? Or is it just used for this diet specifically?
I’ve been at a minus 400 calorie diet with about 50g or less of carbs a day. I weigh 190 lbs. I’d say I’m eating around 2700 cals a day.
Do I really need to start at such a high amount of calories when I’m already eating much less? It seems like I’ll start to add on weight. Should I adjust the body weight x 18 for the first four weeks and by how much?[/quote]
15kcal per lb you weigh - Cutting.
25kcal per lb you weigh - Bulking.
Both are used for this diet specifically.
Have you gone through a full 12 days at 30g of carbs per day keeping the kcals high?
Wings
Hey guys, I’m having a strange experience here and I’m wondering if anyone can offer a perspective…
Up until about two weeks ago, my body was chuggin’ along like clockwork. I was slowly dropping fat, maintaining weight, and my lifts were still going up steadily bit by bit. I was eating around 20g carbs/day and at least 25g of fiber.
Plenty of greens, EVOO, flax. Basically 100% clean. So my last weigh in was after about three weeks of this clockwork phase and I found I had dropped back to 17%bf (around 1% lower than I started the diet on) and had gained 10 lbs of lean mass. I was ecstatic to say the least.
My current program is StrongLifts 5x5 mwf, and The Bear tuesday and saturday just because I love it.
Well over the last two weeks the only changes to my diet have been that my carb ups have gone from 1 day to saturay afternoon+all day sunday, and while the mirror tells me I’m still dropping fat, I’ve actually gained about 5 lbs. Funny thing is I don’t look any bigger, and I’m no more defined than before.
Why this is strange for me is I’m currently cutting on about 2200-2300 cals/day (20-25g carb, 25-30g fiber, 210+g protein, about 55% fat - 60/25/15% mono/poly/unsat), and when I drop fat I usually see some definite changes in definition. No complaints here, mind you. I think I look pretty good. Just looking for some kind of explanation for the unusual body behavior.
Anyone have any ideas? The only thing I can think of (and I’m going to try it this weekend and see what goes down) is a 99% clean carb up - spelt, quinoa, whole grains, sweet potatoes, and my mandatory 1 bowl of choctal ice cream. Cals will be same as during the week if not higher by a couple hundred max.