[quote]David1991 wrote:
so has anyone noticed good results using the vinegar?
even when i dont count the carbs at all from vegetables i cant get less than 30g. maybe i’m taking in too much cottage cheese and nuts/peanut butter? [/quote]
Yep. Even natty PB has quite a few carbs in it and those can add up pretty quickly.
It’s pretty cool knowing that everyone here is consuming massive amounts of carbs today. I just finished having my Sunday morning ritual of 2 whole wheat bagels with butter and an apple.
-dizzle
NewsFlash: for anyone missing fruits as bad as me on the low carb days…the average apricot has about 3 gm of CHO!!
And theres a cereal called Hi-Lo that has 7 gm net carbs (total-fibre) per 1/2 cup and 12 gm pro. that and some almond milk (1gm net/cup) is a pretty surefire way to curb a cereal craving
Good eating!
Carb-up experiment was uglier than expected. It culminated with me sitting in the bathtub in the fetal position with a splitting headache and a distended stomach.
Moral of the story: You can go too far.
That said, I feel pretty good today, and I’m sure yesterday’s splurge provided a good springboard for the final rounds of my cut. I reduced cals by 500 today and will be including some cardio as needed.
[quote]Zluke wrote:
I currently use CTs “Destroying Fat” routine which is brutal. I hate those lactic acid wor-outs, if somebody knows what i am talking about 
I have only one week left of this routine and haven’t decided yet what to use next. While on the mass phase, i tried ABBH and TBT, then i started cutting phase with 10x3 for fat-loss. I am thinking about EDT or maybe Quattro Dynamo.
Currently, i am not sure if i need to change my carb-up scheme. All in all, i consume about 200g crabs per 5 day (plus ~15-20 on low-carb days which come almost only from broccoli/lettuce). What you guys think? Too little?[/quote]
I’m doing the destroying fat routine too, my quads/hamstrings are killing me =(
I’ve tweaked it a bit though, since there isn’t a lot of bi/tricep dominant exercises, i usually add in a day of just arms after the lactate workout. It’s been going really good though. How long have you been on the diet and what have your results been so far?
[quote]Zluke wrote:
I currently use CTs “Destroying Fat” routine which is brutal. I hate those lactic acid wor-outs, if somebody knows what i am talking about I have only one week left of this routine and haven’t decided yet what to use next. While on the mass phase, i tried ABBH and TBT, then i started cutting phase with 10x3 for fat-loss. I am thinking about EDT or maybe Quattro Dynamo.
Currently, i am not sure if i need to change my carb-up scheme. All in all, i consume about 200g crabs per 5 day (plus ~15-20 on low-carb days which come almost only from broccoli/lettuce). What you guys think? Too little?[/quote]
I’m doing the destroying fat routine too, my quads/hamstrings are killing me =(
I’ve tweaked it a bit though, since there isn’t a lot of bi/tricep dominant exercises, i usually add in a day of just arms after the lactate workout. It’s been going really good though. How long have you been on the diet and what have your results been so far?
nycsoccax - Hey, would you mind keeping me posted on your progress with that program? I’m thinking of using it for my next cut, after my “Beast Building” bulk.
Apologies if this question has been asked before:
I’ve just finished cutting on the AD (17 lbs lost). I’m now having a couple of weeks off while I’m on holiday. So I’m working out my maintenance cals for when I restart, etc, but do I need to calculate 18x my total bodyweight, or 18x lean bodyweight? I’m 5’10" and 170lbs - and about 14-16% body fat. I just guessed the first time I did it, and I’m also 17lbs leaner, so not sure what to do next time.
With water loss in the first 2 weeks I want to make sure I don’t have to make any dramatic adjustments after a few weeks. I plan to bulk after the 12 day induction. Once I know what maintenance is it should be easy to tweak upwards.
Many thanks in advance.
[quote]appro wrote:
Apologies if this question has been asked before:
I’ve just finished cutting on the AD (17 lbs lost). I’m now having a couple of weeks off while I’m on holiday. So I’m working out my maintenance cals for when I restart, etc, but do I need to calculate 18x my total bodyweight, or 18x lean bodyweight? I’m 5’10" and 170lbs - and about 14-16% body fat. I just guessed the first time I did it, and I’m also 17lbs leaner, so not sure what to do next time.
With water loss in the first 2 weeks I want to make sure I don’t have to make any dramatic adjustments after a few weeks. I plan to bulk after the 12 day induction. Once I know what maintenance is it should be easy to tweak upwards.
Many thanks in advance.[/quote]
I am not too certain whether it said LBM specifically in the AD book. (I dont think so). anyway, since the point is try and get your body to realize a new abundant source again. i would suggest eat till you are full and then bump it up a little bit.
or you could just go 18 x weight and play it safe.
I assume that ‘maintaining weight’ refers to lean mass and not extra fat. Therefore it doesn’t make logical sense that I would need less calories now, after losing 17lbs, than when I first started the AD. So surely 18x body weight refers to lean mass, or target weight, etc? A 17lb difference is about 300cals a day, so being precise with this (for me) is quite important. The book is vague on this topic - but as the AD is designed for body builders can I assume the good Dr assumed the reader has a fairly low body fat %?
it says and means bodyweight. Even if its 17 pounds of fat everthing will take more energy with 17 more pounds
Just a bump on this thread, so that others dont overshadow it…
[quote]nycsoccax wrote:
I’m doing the destroying fat routine too, my quads/hamstrings are killing me =(
I’ve tweaked it a bit though, since there isn’t a lot of bi/tricep dominant exercises, i usually add in a day of just arms after the lactate workout. It’s been going really good though. How long have you been on the diet and what have your results been so far?
[/quote]
Yeah, CT’s routine is pretty tough. I switched to a full body EDT which is basically A-B splits which i alternate every other day. One day i do vertical push/pull (chins/dips) and a quad dominant exercise, two 15 minutes PR zones (if you are familiar with EDT) and the other day i do two horizontal push-pull (BB rows and DB bench press) and hams/glutes exercise (RDL). Then i add a 15-20 minutes HIIT on elliptical.
As i said in the first post, i’ve been doing the diet since the end of Feb. I gained appreciable amount of muscle, but i think i upped my cals too high and gained fat as well. I got rid of first 10 lbs very fast, without lowering my cals too much (as much as now), and those remaining 5-10 lbs which i want to get rid of are very stubborn I am more recomping now then rapidly losing fat.
I am still experimenting with carb-ups. I decided to use once a week 12 hours carb-up. The problem is that i go nuts after first carb meal and start eating everything i see.
I had also raised my cals from 2100 to 2400 for a week and today i am back to 2100. I hope this will help.
P.S. Sorry for the late answer.
[quote]appro wrote:
Apologies if this question has been asked before:
I’ve just finished cutting on the AD (17 lbs lost). I’m now having a couple of weeks off while I’m on holiday. So I’m working out my maintenance cals for when I restart, etc, but do I need to calculate 18x my total bodyweight, or 18x lean bodyweight? I’m 5’10" and 170lbs - and about 14-16% body fat. I just guessed the first time I did it, and I’m also 17lbs leaner, so not sure what to do next time.
With water loss in the first 2 weeks I want to make sure I don’t have to make any dramatic adjustments after a few weeks. I plan to bulk after the 12 day induction. Once I know what maintenance is it should be easy to tweak upwards.
Many thanks in advance.[/quote]
IMO, you should start upping your cals slightly from the point at which you are now. Since you were on a cut, your maintenance calorie needs are somewhat shifted and you can’t really calculate them. Just start adding 200-300 cals a week untill you see some body fat appearing. I use Accu Measure caliper on my abs. Now, you will gain some fat while bulking, just be sure that you gain more muscle than fat and that your fat gain is negligible. Try staying at your current BF level.
CT has wonderful article about it. It is called ‘Truth about bulking’. Read it.
Here is the link to an article by Lyle McDonald about carb-ups:
thinkmuscle.com/articles/mcdonald/carb-up-and-ketogenic-diet.htm
I know that he is less respected here than Doc, but there are some interesting thoughts and links to studies. The only thing i don’t like in the AD, that Doc says that you should carb-up by gut-feeling. In that article, Lyle gives somewhat more precise recommendations which basically go along the AD.
Cheers!
Starting the Anabolic Diet next week. Any one have any good training advice to expedite the process and kick starting this diet? Also do I need to be counting the carbs in vegetables? If so what veggies should I be avoiding. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks
So i’m a little confused. Is splenda Ok to use in my coffee? it says 0 carbs on the label…but Sasha (back in Janurary of this thread) says its not ok ???
she always so limit coffee on AD??? What about chocolate w/sugar alcohols?
[quote]GettingBigNow wrote:
So i’m a little confused. Is splenda Ok to use in my coffee? it says 0 carbs on the label…but Sasha (back in Janurary of this thread) says its not ok ???
she always so limit coffee on AD??? What about chocolate w/sugar alcohols?[/quote]
splenda has some carbs, not much but like .5-1g per packet.
no sugar alcohols
Another question…Is it possible to change body composition in both ways, I.E. Gain muscle while cutting BF? I have not been able to accomplish this with other diets. Also, Diet soda, go or no go?
[quote]P84 wrote:
Another question…Is it possible to change body composition in both ways, I.E. Gain muscle while cutting BF? I have not been able to accomplish this with other diets. Also, Diet soda, go or no go?[/quote]
the best answer here is that this diet will allow you to gain muscle with MINIMAL fat gain IF DONE CORRECTLY i.e. train hard and be a little vigilant on carb-ups. you may not cut bf but can keep it steady.
Diet soda is a go…but water is better.
[quote]David1991 wrote:
GettingBigNow wrote:
So i’m a little confused. Is splenda Ok to use in my coffee? it says 0 carbs on the label…but Sasha (back in Janurary of this thread) says its not ok ???
she always so limit coffee on AD??? What about chocolate w/sugar alcohols?
splenda has some carbs, not much but like .5-1g per packet.
no sugar alcohols[/quote]
so spelnda does not equal sugar alcohol… I c…cuz sugar alcohol actually lists as carbs
Just out of curiosity and for the sake of conversation:
Where do you guys feel your pump when you carb up? My forearms always get crazy tight on the first day, then my shoulders get tight the next day.
-dizzle