[quote]CMill wrote:
I’m seventeen years old. Is it a bad idea for me to use the anabolic diet? I’m on my third day and my energy levels are feeling great. I haven’t felt sleepy after any of my meals like I usually do on my normal diet. I understand the concern over messing with a kids hormones but it seems like a pretty natural diet. [/quote]
just do it…thats when i started…nothin wrong here!
I’m 15 and on my 7th day 
think I hit the wall a bit early but just gonna hold out till next weekend either way. Although I do notice increase in bodyfat.
[quote]Peteman wrote:
Check this transformation out:
http://www.marktwight.com/videos.php?id=15
thebigbus wrote:
Rampage74 wrote:
just found this on the web, do you believe this transformation on the anabolic diet in 4 months??
www.roadtofit.com/my-transformation-pictures/
Wow, that’s quite a transformation in 4 months. Looks like his delts grew quite a bit…must be nice
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PeteMan - Brah! Are you roided out???
[quote]Peteman wrote:
Check this transformation out:
http://www.marktwight.com/videos.php?id=15
thebigbus wrote:
Rampage74 wrote:
just found this on the web, do you believe this transformation on the anabolic diet in 4 months??
www.roadtofit.com/my-transformation-pictures/
Wow, that’s quite a transformation in 4 months. Looks like his delts grew quite a bit…must be nice
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PeteMan - Brah! Are you roided out???
Hi there,
I’ve been on the AD for several moths now and while I’ve leaned out considerably (something I didn’t think possible on 3’000 cals/day) I have gained very little muscle. I want more muscle and ultimately to compete in figure contests, preferably without resorting to anything ileagal. Should I up my calories or maybe up my daily carbs and by how much? I currently eat just under 30g net carbs/day for 6 days and carb up for 24-36 hours, or until my abs become less visible. I am 5’8 tall,120lb and skinny. Whilst I’m not sure of my BF%, my abs are quite well defined.
To make things even more frustrating, I am currently studying to becaome a personal trainer and my teachers are scaring the living Christ out of me, telling me that if I don’t eat more carbs, my body will canabalise muscle to fuel my workouts. They’re attitude is basically, “No wonder you’re so tiny, you’re on a low-carb diet!”
They’ve labeled me an ectomorph, but I am not convinced. If I were to eat whatever I felt like and stop working out, I would be a US size 6, with celulite. Is there such thing as an ecto-endomorph? Sounds like a pretty raw deal to me! Please help!
Okay I’m on the verge of freaking out a little. I started my cut monday, docked 500 cals so I’m at 2500 now (3000 was enough to get me some strength/size gains and fatten me up visibly…still getting the hang of this I guess).
I weighed myself this morning and did a quick bf test (the pinch test Peteman recommended) and I’m up 1.5 bf since before the weekend and up 1.5 lbs.
What…the…hell?
I’m lifting 3 days a week, still doing deadlifts and squats of course, and have been doing a little light cardio at the ends of my workouts (walk/light jog). My point is I’m upping my activity level and cutting out the recommended 500 cals out of the fat portion of my macros and my carbs are still below 30g per day…
Can anyone offer perspective? I understand it’s very early in my cut, but up a whole pound on less cals and more activity?
Im also one the Anabolic Diet, and i have read alot, maybe everything there is on low carb diets. There is one thing that you have to understand when on low carb diet. That is to get enough carbs. Mauro G. Di Pasquale also talkes about this in his books. The reason is, people are different. Some people have no problem with 30g carb a day but some people need more to get out of the ketosis. You dont want to be in ketosis under the anabolic diet, because that will make you dizzy and feel like shit.
So you have to experience with the karb level, if you feel fine, continue but for the most people you should aim for 50g carb a day. Its also smart to use protein + carb(maltrodexin) right after a hard workout. how much carb depends on the workout. The workout has to be 45 minutes+ and explosive and hard. That means that you either run fast, or heavy weight lifting.
After these kind of exersices your glycogen stores will decrease and the insulin want react if you consume liquid high gi carb right after workouts. Your energy level during the day and the next workouts will increase. Then you have the 1 or 2 carb up days. You dont need as much carb now as you would when you ate 30g every day, but its worth it because your life, and progress will me much better.
What happens if you start to suddenly eat carbs again? Would your weight increase? (bodyfat wise) as your body will be foreign to carbohydrates? whati f youre still in the introduction phase? Just incase I need to emergency my ass out of the diet due to whatever reason I’d like to know if there will be negative effects.
and galen, I’ve also gained considerable bf% in the last 8 days, I’m not quite sure why.
killer,
I’ve been on it for 6 weeks so far. The main bf gain happened because I was eating upwards of 3500 at the beginning to keep in line with my 20rep squat program and -around- 3000 over weeks 4 and 5 because I just felt too full too often.
Anyway, I expected a rise in bodyfat during the transition while the body learned that it was getting more fat than carbs. I had to keep reminding myself that it was still in the habit of storing fat as fat for a while at the beginning.
EDIT: I just found out that in order to make up for a shipping error, the company I bought my creatine from is sending me a free tub of beta alanine. Can anyone suggest how I ought to take this? Like pre/post workout or throughout the day or something? And will it interact with the creatine (ethyl ester, btw) in any negative ways?
Has anyone here gotten blood work done while on the AD or anytime while keto dieting? I ask because I’ve done AD and other type of keto diets in the past with great results. Recently I got blood work done just out of curiousity because I’ve been keto dieting for about 6 weeks and the results were not good.
High triglycerides, HDL is almost rock bottom, homocystiene is high and AST is high. Never had results like this on previous blood tests. Anyone have a clue whats going on here? I always supplement with Flameout and extra virgin olive oil but I guess it still doesnt help.
hey,
ok i am soo confused about the carb issue on this diet…do i keep them between 20 & 30 gms.(avod ketosis) and thats excluding fibre right?
so if i ate say 40 gms of CHO in total where the net after fibre is 25gms…that should be acceptable right??
for example, today i had 23gms total carbs and 12 gms fibre…net carbs of 11gms…will that keep me out of ketosis?
[quote]as wrote:
Has anyone here gotten blood work done while on the AD or anytime while keto dieting? I ask because I’ve done AD and other type of keto diets in the past with great results. Recently I got blood work done just out of curiousity because I’ve been keto dieting for about 6 weeks and the results were not good.
High triglycerides, HDL is almost rock bottom, homocystiene is high and AST is high. Never had results like this on previous blood tests. Anyone have a clue whats going on here? I always supplement with Flameout and extra virgin olive oil but I guess it still doesnt help.[/quote]
I am getting my blood work in 2 weeks. Been on AD for about 6 weeks now.
When did you get your blood work done. Was it mid week, or just before the carb load. How many weeks into keto were you?
Also what percentage of your fats were MUFA/PUFA/SFA
I read DH recommends about
50% MUFA
30% SFA
20% PUFA
Other people recommend
33/33/33
I have the feeling you overdid the saturated fats. Anyways I’ll report back on my blood results in 2 weeks. It seems only a handful of people on this forum have actually got their blood work done, which is a bit dissapointing.
[quote]andyr wrote:
as wrote:
Has anyone here gotten blood work done while on the AD or anytime while keto dieting? I ask because I’ve done AD and other type of keto diets in the past with great results. Recently I got blood work done just out of curiousity because I’ve been keto dieting for about 6 weeks and the results were not good.
High triglycerides, HDL is almost rock bottom, homocystiene is high and AST is high. Never had results like this on previous blood tests. Anyone have a clue whats going on here? I always supplement with Flameout and extra virgin olive oil but I guess it still doesnt help.
I am getting my blood work in 2 weeks. Been on AD for about 6 weeks now.
When did you get your blood work done. Was it mid week, or just before the carb load. How many weeks into keto were you?
Also what percentage of your fats were MUFA/PUFA/SFA
I read DH recommends about
50% MUFA
30% SFA
20% PUFA
Other people recommend
33/33/33
I have the feeling you overdid the saturated fats. Anyways I’ll report back on my blood results in 2 weeks. It seems only a handful of people on this forum have actually got their blood work done, which is a bit dissapointing.[/quote]
I think your right about overdoing the saturated fats. I was only taking about 10 Flameout a day and apprx. 30gms of EVOO a day. The rest was bacon and eggs and lots of ground beef. I got the blood drawn the day before my carb up and about 4 hours after a bacon and egg breakfast.
I’m going to balance out the ratio of fats better to finsh my cutting phase then get tested again at the end to see if it helped. If not no more keto diets for me. Let me know how your blood work turns out. Thanks
Yeah. I’ve read up to about 150 pages of this thread, some of these sample diets are terrible - how many of these people actually got their blood tested.
I know this diet suggests high fat, but this does not mean you can treat yourself to all really fatty meats.
I see a lot of people predominately eating chuck steak, 20-30% ground beef, sausages etc. Then, I see other people people approaching 60-75% calories of fat. I try to keep my fat under 60% if possible.
My meats are still predominately lean, 5-10% ground beef, topside steak, round steak, flank steak, entire chicken, with very little fat
I try to fill the rest of my calories with healthy fats, olive oil, which I take by the tablespoon.
It is very hard to hit 50% MUFA, if you are eating mainly fatty meats.
Am I doing this wrong? Have I misunderstood the AD, well I don’t know. But I tell u what, anxiously awaits blood test …
[quote]MissOahu wrote:
Peteman wrote:
Check this transformation out:
http://www.marktwight.com/videos.php?id=15
thebigbus wrote:
Rampage74 wrote:
just found this on the web, do you believe this transformation on the anabolic diet in 4 months??
www.roadtofit.com/my-transformation-pictures/
Wow, that’s quite a transformation in 4 months. Looks like his delts grew quite a bit…must be nice
PeteMan - Brah! Are you roided out???
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No, I have never taken steroids or any drugs like that… tried tribulus of course, zma, protein etc… I like to be an example to my personal training clients of what can be achieved with years of consistency with proper nutrition and weightlifting…but thanks for the compliment, I’ll take it like that:)
Has anyone had success starting the AD while already cutting and maintaining a caloric deficit for the initial phases of the diet? I know Dr. D says to keep calories around maintenance for the initial phase, but I don’t want to lose that time. I am thinking about going over to AD, but I am cutting now and want to get as lean as possible by early july. Thanks guys.
Just as a note:
I feel 10x better on my carb-up this weekend because I ate in spaced out meals (3 hrs) and I kept it 95% clean. Granola, potatoes, pasta, exotic rice, and organic whole wheat bread so far.
Last weekend I felt like I had to cut it short, but now I feel like tomorrow is going to be great.
I would suggest super clean carb ups to anyone and everyone.
-dizzle
[quote]doctasarge wrote:
Has anyone had success starting the AD while already cutting and maintaining a caloric deficit for the initial phases of the diet? I know Dr. D says to keep calories around maintenance for the initial phase, but I don’t want to lose that time. I am thinking about going over to AD, but I am cutting now and want to get as lean as possible by early july. Thanks guys.[/quote]
i don’t think its recommended, your body first needs to realize that the abundant fuel is now fat rather than carbs. Whether the ratio itself (60/40 of f/p) is enough for the purpose i’m not sure, but on the cutting front i can say that if you find that you have a little more fat to lose, just hit up some HIIT or do some extra work in the gym and you should be fine.
[quote]Evil1 wrote:
doctasarge wrote:
Has anyone had success starting the AD while already cutting and maintaining a caloric deficit for the initial phases of the diet? I know Dr. D says to keep calories around maintenance for the initial phase, but I don’t want to lose that time. I am thinking about going over to AD, but I am cutting now and want to get as lean as possible by early july. Thanks guys.
i don’t think its recommended, your body first needs to realize that the abundant fuel is now fat rather than carbs. Whether the ratio itself (60/40 of f/p) is enough for the purpose i’m not sure, but on the cutting front i can say that if you find that you have a little more fat to lose, just hit up some HIIT or do some extra work in the gym and you should be fine.[/quote]
Hey thanks for the reply. Just to clarify, do you mean adding hiit to the induction phase or just another diet Thanks again.
[quote]Evil1 wrote:
doctasarge wrote:
Has anyone had success starting the AD while already cutting and maintaining a caloric deficit for the initial phases of the diet? I know Dr. D says to keep calories around maintenance for the initial phase, but I don’t want to lose that time. I am thinking about going over to AD, but I am cutting now and want to get as lean as possible by early july. Thanks guys.
i don’t think its recommended, your body first needs to realize that the abundant fuel is now fat rather than carbs. Whether the ratio itself (60/40 of f/p) is enough for the purpose i’m not sure, but on the cutting front i can say that if you find that you have a little more fat to lose, just hit up some HIIT or do some extra work in the gym and you should be fine.[/quote]
well HIIT to any routine would burn more fat than regular cardio, but i think its more effective here since you’re already burning fat for fuel.