My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

[quote]Peteman wrote:
Thanks man, but I meant a lean, contest ready physiqu for a natural bodybuilding show, like 3% or even 5% bodyfat… Yes, I could bulk up as well and have 200 pounds of lean mass under a bunch of fat… hell, any 400 pounder would need that much just to walk around! Look, you get down to a caliper tested 5% bodyfat and let me know how much you weigh, then we can talk:)Chris Shugart has written about how big guys say they only need to lose 20 pounds and they would be ripped but they are living in la la land, not reality…

conorh wrote:
I’m not an advanced lifter by any means. I’m a fat guy who likes to lift weights and competes in powerlifting. I’m around 6’, maybe a touch shorter, and at a bodyweight of 265 I’m pretty sure I carry 200 pounds or so of lean tissue. I’m sure with an actual mass-oriented training program, I could far exceed my current amount of lbm.

My point is I think your making far too broad an assertion. Lots and lots of six footers can carry 200 pounds of lbm, that’s only 235 at 15% bf.

Just my two cents, for what they’re worth.

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No problem, that makes a lot more sense in context.

[quote]Paiger wrote:
Hey all.

I’ve only managed to get through the first 10 pages or so…and I haven’t seen any other women doing this diet! Am I it?

Ok…so I’m 24hrs in. I have a couple of questions if I may:

I’m sort of nervous about maxing out my carb limit with green veges. How sick can I go on brocoli and spinach without getting into trouble?[/quote]

HONESTLY I DON’T THINK YOU CAN EAT ENOUGH BROCCOLI AND SPINACH FOR IT TO BE A PROBLEM, SO I WOULD GO AS NUTS AS YOUR GI WILL ALLOW.

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If I end the day under the limit, is it best to leave it alone or do a few oats to top up before bed?[/quote]

I WOULD LEAVE IT ALONE PERSONALLY.

IT’S MUCH EASIER TO REMAIN COMPLIANT IF YOUR CALORIES ARE HIGHER RATHER THAN LOWER. I SEEM TO BE MAKING MUCH BETTER PROGRESS WITH HIGHER CALORIES, BUT YOU CAN JUST SEE FOR YOURSELF.

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Here’s todays food- welcome any comments and feedback:

2 fried eggs
Tbsp cottage cheese
an inch of LC protein bar
Protein shake on water

Cold lamb
half a round of brie cheese

small tin of salmon
3 rashers of bacon

3 slices of pancetta wrapped in lettuce leaves
protein shake with a quater cup of milk

Lamb rump steak
mushrooms
steamed pak choy
3 slices Jarlsberg

6th cup of oats

Thanks guys.
paige [/quote]

I posted some comments in all caps, because I don’t really know how to separate it out more coherently.

-Conor

just found this on the web, do you believe this transformation on the anabolic diet in 4 months??

www.roadtofit.com/my-transformation-pictures/

[quote]Rampage74 wrote:
just found this on the web, do you believe this transformation on the anabolic diet in 4 months??

www.roadtofit.com/my-transformation-pictures/

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Wow, that’s quite a transformation in 4 months. Looks like his delts grew quite a bit…must be nice :slight_smile:

Check this transformation out:
http://www.marktwight.com/videos.php?id=15

[quote]thebigbus wrote:
Rampage74 wrote:
just found this on the web, do you believe this transformation on the anabolic diet in 4 months??

www.roadtofit.com/my-transformation-pictures/

Wow, that’s quite a transformation in 4 months. Looks like his delts grew quite a bit…must be nice :slight_smile:

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Peteman,

That…is crazy. Something to aspire to (with a little temperance).

Those pics were the reason I started the AD. It’s really something for me to aspire to, and I’m losing a similar amount of weight so hopefully I can do it too. It’s keeping me motivated.

[quote]Rampage74 wrote:
just found this on the web, do you believe this transformation on the anabolic diet in 4 months??

www.roadtofit.com/my-transformation-pictures/

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If you check out the comments under the pics you’ll see that he wasn’t doing the AD for the whole of that time, just the last few weeks…

[quote]Peteman wrote:
Check this transformation out:
http://www.marktwight.com/videos.php?id=15

thebigbus wrote:
Rampage74 wrote:
just found this on the web, do you believe this transformation on the anabolic diet in 4 months??

www.roadtofit.com/my-transformation-pictures/

Wow, that’s quite a transformation in 4 months. Looks like his delts grew quite a bit…must be nice :slight_smile:

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Very impressive. I can’t imagine living on 1700 calories/day, though :slight_smile: LoL. But you gotta do what you gotta do, especially when you don’t have a long time to prepare.

Hey guys, as some of you know I’m bulking on the squats & milk program and I’ve noticed a small trouble spot.

Basically my program is 3 days a week of 20rep squats, deadlifts, chins, and chest. I’ve been rotating my exercises for lats between wide grip pullups, bent over rows, and cable rows just to keep my body guessing. Same story with chest - dumbbells, bench, dips, one-armed dumbbells, super slow reps.

The problem is while my chest and back are growing great, my triceps seem to be the only part of my upper arms that are growing.

Can anyone suggest something that will fit into the back stuff I do that’ll help my bi’s grow?

When I first started this program I kind of assumed that all the pulling exercises would just keep my biceps growing with the rest of me but apparently I was mistaken. :frowning:

How about bicep curls?

-dizzle

[quote]Galen wrote:
Hey guys, as some of you know I’m bulking on the squats & milk program and I’ve noticed a small trouble spot.

Basically my program is 3 days a week of 20rep squats, deadlifts, chins, and chest. I’ve been rotating my exercises for lats between wide grip pullups, bent over rows, and cable rows just to keep my body guessing. Same story with chest - dumbbells, bench, dips, one-armed dumbbells, super slow reps.

The problem is while my chest and back are growing great, my triceps seem to be the only part of my upper arms that are growing.

Can anyone suggest something that will fit into the back stuff I do that’ll help my bi’s grow?

When I first started this program I kind of assumed that all the pulling exercises would just keep my biceps growing with the rest of me but apparently I was mistaken. :([/quote]

[quote]Galen wrote:
Hey guys, as some of you know I’m bulking on the squats & milk program and I’ve noticed a small trouble spot.

Basically my program is 3 days a week of 20rep squats, deadlifts, chins, and chest. I’ve been rotating my exercises for lats between wide grip pullups, bent over rows, and cable rows just to keep my body guessing. Same story with chest - dumbbells, bench, dips, one-armed dumbbells, super slow reps.

The problem is while my chest and back are growing great, my triceps seem to be the only part of my upper arms that are growing.

Can anyone suggest something that will fit into the back stuff I do that’ll help my bi’s grow?

When I first started this program I kind of assumed that all the pulling exercises would just keep my biceps growing with the rest of me but apparently I was mistaken. :([/quote]

This new article may be of interest:

http://www.T-Nation.com/article/most_recent/thibs_quick_tricks

[quote]Galen wrote:
Hey guys, as some of you know I’m bulking on the squats & milk program and I’ve noticed a small trouble spot.

Basically my program is 3 days a week of 20rep squats, deadlifts, chins, and chest. I’ve been rotating my exercises for lats between wide grip pullups, bent over rows, and cable rows just to keep my body guessing. Same story with chest - dumbbells, bench, dips, one-armed dumbbells, super slow reps.

The problem is while my chest and back are growing great, my triceps seem to be the only part of my upper arms that are growing.

Can anyone suggest something that will fit into the back stuff I do that’ll help my bi’s grow?

When I first started this program I kind of assumed that all the pulling exercises would just keep my biceps growing with the rest of me but apparently I was mistaken. :([/quote]

I recall reading a training article in here somewhere for an arm blast…I think it was called ‘Thibs Arm Blaster’. It was kick ass. Some really good eccentric exercises and some where you just go flat out, as many reps as possible in 30 secs. I got the best bicep pump I’d had in ages, think because it offered a really diverse range of exercises, with some tri-sets. It’ll probly turn up if you search for it.

paige

Well, I am on day 28 of the Anabolic Diet, and still eating maintenance 18x.

I still have not had that monday surge people have been talking about, but I definitely feel more consistent energy throughout the day.

My waist has definitely gone down as well as body fat (1%, 1 inch of weight).

I am still not sure when to get my next blood lipid profile test, without the results being too skewed. Does 2 months on the AD sound about right? I have been on the AD for almost a month, and this blood lipid profile test will determine whether I stay on it.

Also what day is best to get it done. I’m guessing the carb load days are a nono. Is mid week (wednesday) during the non carb ups the best time for blood testing?

Yep, Id get my blood done on a Wed or Thur if it was me.

My first carb up starts in two hours, I’m so psyched. I bought a huge bag of granola and a banana bread muffin that I’m really looking forward to, in addition to pasta, breads, potatoes, pizza, bagels, oatmeal, and Surge.

I’m hoping with all the replenished glycogen in my system I won’t look and feel as flat as I’ve been feeling for the past few days. I’m ready for the pump!

-dizzle

[quote]A-Dizz wrote:
My first carb up starts in two hours, I’m so psyched. I bought a huge bag of granola and a banana bread muffin that I’m really looking forward to, in addition to pasta, breads, potatoes, pizza, bagels, oatmeal, and Surge.

I’m hoping with all the replenished glycogen in my system I won’t look and feel as flat as I’ve been feeling for the past few days. I’m ready for the pump!

-dizzle[/quote]

keep uds posted and if your not happy dont quit! it took me a year to find out and accept that my best bet is rice and a little bit of wheat with how ever much fruit and very little if an oatmeal…thing was TOO MUCH FIBER screwed me over for at least a day after my carb ups…just a heads up

[quote]bkmacky9288 wrote:
A-Dizz wrote:
My first carb up starts in two hours, I’m so psyched. I bought a huge bag of granola and a banana bread muffin that I’m really looking forward to, in addition to pasta, breads, potatoes, pizza, bagels, oatmeal, and Surge.

I’m hoping with all the replenished glycogen in my system I won’t look and feel as flat as I’ve been feeling for the past few days. I’m ready for the pump!

-dizzle

keep uds posted and if your not happy dont quit! it took me a year to find out and accept that my best bet is rice and a little bit of wheat with how ever much fruit and very little if an oatmeal…thing was TOO MUCH FIBER screwed me over for at least a day after my carb ups…just a heads up[/quote]

Second this. I am coming up on two years in August on the AD, and I am still tinkering with my carb up. Right now I am bloated and full and am ready to bench tomorrow!

Just a random note - something I have recently discovered is taking advantage of the day right after your carb up. For awhile I neglected training on that day because I didn’t feel right somehow, but recently have made myself do it and my progress has almost doubled. Something to think about if you aren’t already doing it.

I was planning on making this carb-up go for 36 hrs (2pm Saturday until bedtime Sunday), but my pump is totally gone and I feel like my body is telling me to lay off the carbs.

I’m not “smoothing out” per se, but I can tell it’s time to call a quits. I won’t lie, I ate a bunch of junk, but I also had a lot of good stuff. Unfortunately I’d say it was about 50/50.

I had a bagel, a box of wheat pasta, a ton of brown rice, granola, pizza, some cookies, yogurt, a vanilla shake, a banana bread muffin, and cookie dough ice cream.

I felt terrible after every time I ate the junk though, so next weekend it will be clean as a whistle, maybe with some dark chocolate thrown in or something of the sort.

The carbs have made me sooo sleepy. I was watching the fights last night and almost fell asleep twice.

bkmacky: I’m definitely not happy after the carb up, but only because I ate a little too much junk. I also put on a pound or so of fat during the induction because my calories were too high and the only exercise I got was lifting. I’m going to finish off what’s left over of my bottle of HOT-ROX (which will take me two weeks), get back down to the BF% I started the diet at, and then start a bulking phase.

CJK: My lifting schedule is MWF, so I’ll be hitting the weights the day after my carb ups anyways. I’m looking forward to lifting tomorrow.

Thanks for the advice, guys.

-dizzle

I’m 17 years old and a couple you have probably already read my other n00b posts, but I was wondering whether or not this diet would be good or bad for me to use.

I’ve been reading up on it and I’m planning to start it tomorrow and heres how I think my first day’s meals are gonna go.

I weigh 150 lbs so I’m shooting for 2700 calories.

Breakfast:
4 eggs
4 slices of bacon

Snack:
salad with olive oil,vinegar, and extra sharp cheddar

Lunch:
8 oz. 80/20 hamburger
extra sharp cheddar

Snack:
pepperoni

Dinner:
Flank Steak
brussel sprouts with olive oil

Snack:
sugar free jell-o and whipped topping

Does anyone have any suggestions for my first day or any words of warning?

Thanks again for all of your guys help.