My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

Nutrition
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Only when I really want to mass up do I dig out the tofu and rice cakes. Can’t believe that got out. Gotta save something for my peeps to wonder about. ;-0

DH

[quote]mozhne wrote:
Thanks Hoss, See boys arms like the Hoss has don’t come from tofu and rice cakes.

mdragon, you must live in the west to have eaten much buffalo. Here in Idaho there is a big buffalo ranch, or was, I heard the Doctor who ran it was selling out. Buffalo is really good meat though. Lean and mean. Wild game is good on this diet too. If you can get your hands on some smoked salmon, mmmm, mmmm! Elk is good too as is Deer (if you can get past the sagebrush taste).

Barry[/quote]

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Just purchased the Anabolic Solution for PL e-book yesterday, and I’ve started the strict phase today.

DH, is there really a difference in the AD compared to the AS? I’ve used the AD as outlined on T-Nation (Shugart’s article) in the past with success, but it’s been awile.

Looking forward to still being strong while dieting!

Also, if you know, is the 1-2 lbs/week guideline written in stone? I have easily 40 lbs to lose, but I’m not in a HUGE rush, either.

BTW, it’s funny that this thread came up. I’d been comtemplating buying this book for a couple of months now. This thread got me of the fence.

Anvil
(my brother thinks meat is evil. he also has long hair and smokes ALOT of pot. Coincidence? Maybe…)

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I’m in Colorado!

[quote]mozhne wrote:
Thanks Hoss, See boys arms like the Hoss has don’t come from tofu and rice cakes.

mdragon, you must live in the west to have eaten much buffalo. Here in Idaho there is a big buffalo ranch, or was, I heard the Doctor who ran it was selling out. Buffalo is really good meat though. Lean and mean. Wild game is good on this diet too. If you can get your hands on some smoked salmon, mmmm, mmmm! Elk is good too as is Deer (if you can get past the sagebrush taste).

Barry[/quote]

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[quote]Vegita wrote:
This is a very interesting thread and also a very interesting diet. Ok so there is 2 forms of the diet tweaked for either body building or powerlifting? So my question is, I want to add raw power without gaining a ton of mass but some mass gain is fine by me. I could stand to gain 20-30 lbs over the next few years without it hindering my goals. My main concern is that I won’t be powerlifting or body building at all. I lift total body once or twice a week depending on time and energy and it is mainly explosive moves such as O-lifts and ballistic throws and such. I also Golf 5-6 days a week.

–I don’t know much about the powerlifting version as I bought the orinional book in 98 or 99. I will say that the standard version is good for any kind of lifting…think about it, you’re eating a ton of protein, a lot of fat to boost T levels and weekend carb ups for glycogen. Eat, drink water, drink coffee, and lift.

DH or anyone else, would this diet, and i’m thinking the powerlifting variety would be better suited, help me along with my progress? Like I said, I am looking to gain explosive power #1 and possibly help my CNS recover as quickly as possible from many many rounds of golf. There are days when I just feel like poop out on the course and it seems like many of you are feeling amazing energy levels once adapted into this diet. I know it would probably be a bit of a guess, but maybe someone could steer me in the right direction.

–As DH said, this has more to do with training than with diet. Like I said above, this diet fits into any lifting program.

Currently my diet is … eat anything I want anytime i’m hungry. Now obviosly, I make good food choices 80 percent of the time, chicken, steak, I try to stay away from trans fats and hi GI carbs, but there really isn’t much else rhym or reason to my diet.
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–The AD is a fun way to eat. During the week I’m eating eggs, steak, bacon, chicken, olive oil, feta cheese, and a multitude of I-talian cheese…along with things like saut. spinach and garlic in olive oil.
Then, you can really look forward to that box of cereal or piece of cake on saturday. [quote]

I always wonder how my “normal” friend enjoy the junk they eat. To me, if you are eating ice cream every day, it loses it’s specialness.

V[/quote]

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[quote]HumanAnvil wrote:
Just purchased the Anabolic Solution for PL e-book yesterday, and I’ve started the strict phase today.

DH, is there really a difference in the AD compared to the AS? I’ve used the AD as outlined on T-Nation (Shugart’s article) in the past with success, but it’s been awile.[/quote]

–I don’t know for sure, I think it’s just an updated version.

[quote]
Looking forward to still being strong while dieting!

Also, if you know, is the 1-2 lbs/week guideline written in stone? I have easily 40 lbs to lose, but I’m not in a HUGE rush, either.[/quote]

–As JB and Lonnie say, a heavier person can lose faster than a lean one. I know that anytime I’ve had alot of fat to lose, it came off quick.

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PM me for the addy to get the AD. No sense getting the AS as it is the same info with some supp advertising.

And IC is correct, you can lose more. My buddy, BookemD, has hit it hard a few times and dropped fast. Of course if he’d STAY away from the carbs he wouldn’t have to binge diet. As long as your energy is up and your strength is maintained, you’re cool.

DH

[quote]IL Cazzo wrote:
HumanAnvil wrote:
Just purchased the Anabolic Solution for PL e-book yesterday, and I’ve started the strict phase today.

DH, is there really a difference in the AD compared to the AS? I’ve used the AD as outlined on T-Nation (Shugart’s article) in the past with success, but it’s been awile.

–I don’t know for sure, I think it’s just an updated version.

Looking forward to still being strong while dieting!

Also, if you know, is the 1-2 lbs/week guideline written in stone? I have easily 40 lbs to lose, but I’m not in a HUGE rush, either.

–As JB and Lonnie say, a heavier person can lose faster than a lean one. I know that anytime I’ve had alot of fat to lose, it came off quick.

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Help a Bruthuh out. Calling all techno-nerds.

Got a photo, but no matter how many times I crop it, it still shows size of 283K. Can’t exceed 128 for an avatar. I’m considering a switch for some variety. I’m a complete moron with this stuff so it’ll take a miracle.

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Go to paint, click file, click open, go to my pictures or wherever it is saved, click all files from the drop down at the bottom, save it as a .jpg file at the drop down just above the all files drop down. If I don’t make sense PM me and I’ll call you.

[quote]Disc Hoss wrote:
Help a Bruthuh out. Calling all techno-nerds.

Got a photo, but no matter how many times I crop it, it still shows size of 283K. Can’t exceed 128 for an avatar. I’m considering a switch for some variety. I’m a complete moron with this stuff so it’ll take a miracle.
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Thanks all. You guys are so good to me… :wink:

DH

[quote]mdragon wrote:
Go to paint, click file, click open, go to my pictures or wherever it is saved, click all files from the drop down at the bottom, save it as a .jpg file at the drop down just above the all files drop down. If I don’t make sense PM me and I’ll call you.

Disc Hoss wrote:
Help a Bruthuh out. Calling all techno-nerds.

Got a photo, but no matter how many times I crop it, it still shows size of 283K. Can’t exceed 128 for an avatar. I’m considering a switch for some variety. I’m a complete moron with this stuff so it’ll take a miracle.

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Oh boy, this is one sweet diet. I thought I would be sluggish, tired, week, and dying for some carbs. I am experiencing the opposite of all of these. Here is a sample of my diet so far today.

Meal 1: 1/2 scoop pro powder, six scrambled eggs, 3/4 cup of Cheddar cheese. eight pieces of bacon. 10 fish oil pills,1 liter of water
Meal 2: Same as above minus protein powder.
Meal 3: Pre workout? two scoops of Power Drive mixed with some strong green tea
Meal 4: PWO All you can eat BBQ beef, about 1-11/2 lbs. One huge salad with oil and vinegar. My training partner told me he has never seen anyone eat that much beef in one sitting:)
Meal 5:Two Bubba burgers, four pieces of cheese(Swiss, and cheddar), 10 fish oil pills, and two tablespoons of sugar free fiber supp.

My next meal will be the same as meal five and I will have some full fat cottage cheese and more fish oil before bed. Today I was kind of lacking in the veggie department, but I will make up for it tomorrow. I have never consumed so much fish oil in my life. Hopefully I won’t grow gills:) One more week until carb up, and I could care lees. I love cheese!

Joe

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It IS a sweet ride. Just be aware that you might hit a wall, but tough it out. This makes all the difference. When I first did it, I was feeling like I had the flu by Friday. Few days later and I’m jumping out of the bed in the morn. GF was amazed as I always hated mornings.

DH

[quote]Joebob wrote:
Oh boy, this is one sweet diet. I thought I would be sluggish, tired, week, and dying for some carbs. I am experiencing the opposite of all of these. Here is a sample of my diet so far today.

Meal 1: 1/2 scoop pro powder, six scrambled eggs, 3/4 cup of Cheddar cheese. eight pieces of bacon. 10 fish oil pills,1 liter of water
Meal 2: Same as above minus protein powder.
Meal 3: Pre workout? two scoops of Power Drive mixed with some strong green tea
Meal 4: PWO All you can eat BBQ beef, about 1-11/2 lbs. One huge salad with oil and vinegar. My training partner told me he has never seen anyone eat that much beef in one sitting:)
Meal 5:Two Bubba burgers, four pieces of cheese(Swiss, and cheddar), 10 fish oil pills, and two tablespoons of sugar free fiber supp.

My next meal will be the same as meal five and I will have some full fat cottage cheese and more fish oil before bed. Today I was kind of lacking in the veggie department, but I will make up for it tomorrow. I have never consumed so much fish oil in my life. Hopefully I won’t grow gills:) One more week until carb up, and I could care lees. I love cheese!

Joe[/quote]

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Take some pro powder right before your workouts (whey~ about 30g) and then another about 30 mins after. Then hit the solids.

DH

[quote]Joebob wrote:
Oh boy, this is one sweet diet. I thought I would be sluggish, tired, week, and dying for some carbs. I am experiencing the opposite of all of these. Here is a sample of my diet so far today.

Meal 1: 1/2 scoop pro powder, six scrambled eggs, 3/4 cup of Cheddar cheese. eight pieces of bacon. 10 fish oil pills,1 liter of water
Meal 2: Same as above minus protein powder.
Meal 3: Pre workout? two scoops of Power Drive mixed with some strong green tea
Meal 4: PWO All you can eat BBQ beef, about 1-11/2 lbs. One huge salad with oil and vinegar. My training partner told me he has never seen anyone eat that much beef in one sitting:)
Meal 5:Two Bubba burgers, four pieces of cheese(Swiss, and cheddar), 10 fish oil pills, and two tablespoons of sugar free fiber supp.

My next meal will be the same as meal five and I will have some full fat cottage cheese and more fish oil before bed. Today I was kind of lacking in the veggie department, but I will make up for it tomorrow. I have never consumed so much fish oil in my life. Hopefully I won’t grow gills:) One more week until carb up, and I could care lees. I love cheese!

Joe[/quote]

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I’m glad it worked. Thank you for all your help! Dude your hyouge! Maybe if you have someone else take the picture…it would come out better.

[quote]Disc Hoss wrote:
Thanks all. You guys are so good to me… :wink:

DH

mdragon wrote:
Go to paint, click file, click open, go to my pictures or wherever it is saved, click all files from the drop down at the bottom, save it as a .jpg file at the drop down just above the all files drop down. If I don’t make sense PM me and I’ll call you.

Disc Hoss wrote:
Help a Bruthuh out. Calling all techno-nerds.

Got a photo, but no matter how many times I crop it, it still shows size of 283K. Can’t exceed 128 for an avatar. I’m considering a switch for some variety. I’m a complete moron with this stuff so it’ll take a miracle.

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That or I’ve got “the Palsy” or something. BFG has a scientific theory behind it all that really is impressive. :0

DH

[quote]mdragon wrote:
I’m glad it worked. Thank you for all your help! Dude your hyouge! Maybe if you have someone else take the picture…it would come out better.

Disc Hoss wrote:
Thanks all. You guys are so good to me… :wink:

DH

mdragon wrote:
Go to paint, click file, click open, go to my pictures or wherever it is saved, click all files from the drop down at the bottom, save it as a .jpg file at the drop down just above the all files drop down. If I don’t make sense PM me and I’ll call you.

Disc Hoss wrote:
Help a Bruthuh out. Calling all techno-nerds.

Got a photo, but no matter how many times I crop it, it still shows size of 283K. Can’t exceed 128 for an avatar. I’m considering a switch for some variety. I’m a complete moron with this stuff so it’ll take a miracle.

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mdragon, that is a valid point and one that does play into your choice of CHO on the AD. The big one is that starches are broken down into glucose primarily with small amounts of fructose. Glucose preferentially fills the muscle while fructose heads to the liver. Sucrose (table sugar in your sweets) is a dissacharide and has a larger fructose content that will allow the liver to be full faster and then when you begin carb depletion, the liver will continue to spike and drop your blood sugar levels for hours until it is depleted again.

Better to focus on filling muscle glycogen stores to the max. Also sucrose and fructose stimulate fat creating enzymes. So keep your loads smart. Have your goodies, but do it after you’ve consumed quality carbs. You’ll feel better, look better, and your appetite won’t get you into trouble by driving you to down a gallon of Ben & Jerry’s.

DH

[quote]mdragon wrote:
I assume that it has to do with the constant highs and lows of the processed sugars and the more level blood sugar that the starches will provide?

Please do a tips/tricks…I’ll go in on an overtaking of the cattle market…I say we add buffalo I love that meat!

Disc Hoss wrote:
Anybody know why they should preferentially consume starches instead of sugars for the load? Beyond the obvious feeling of suckage that sugars cause. Too many at least… I still throw down on the goodies too.

Anyone interested?

Maybe I’ll start a tips/tricks aspect to this thread to give everybody the full understanding of the whys/hows so that we can mass produce disciples and then buy into the cattle market. Pay ourselves to get big!

DH

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[quote]Disc Hoss wrote:
Anybody know why they should preferentially consume starches instead of sugars for the load? Beyond the obvious feeling of suckage that sugars cause. Too many at least… I still throw down on the goodies too.

Anyone interested?

Maybe I’ll start a tips/tricks aspect to this thread to give everybody the full understanding of the whys/hows so that we can mass produce disciples and then buy into the cattle market. Pay ourselves to get big!

DH[/quote]
Bring it on, brotha’. You’ve got the credentials. Educate us, Your Hugeness!

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I just finished reading the book. Man, the more I read, the better this diet looks. I don’t think I’ve eaten real, (read:not cottage), cheese in about a year. One question for those who have been on it for awhile: In his book DiPasquale recommends these four “liquid formulas”. Are you guys taking these, or not? I haven’t heard anyone sound off about them.

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Aw shucks! ;-).

DH

[quote]jerinevans wrote:
Disc Hoss wrote:
Anybody know why they should preferentially consume starches instead of sugars for the load? Beyond the obvious feeling of suckage that sugars cause. Too many at least… I still throw down on the goodies too.

Anyone interested?

Maybe I’ll start a tips/tricks aspect to this thread to give everybody the full understanding of the whys/hows so that we can mass produce disciples and then buy into the cattle market. Pay ourselves to get big!

DH
Bring it on, brotha’. You’ve got the credentials. Educate us, Your Hugeness!

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No need. Just keep an eye on here for pre and post workout basics. Let the food do the growin’.

Best,
DH

[quote]Charles Atlas wrote:
I just finished reading the book. Man, the more I read, the better this diet looks. I don’t think I’ve eaten real, (read:not cottage), cheese in about a year. One question for those who have been on it for awhile: In his book DiPasquale recommends these four “liquid formulas”. Are you guys taking these, or not? I haven’t heard anyone sound off about them.[/quote]

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Alright! That’s what I hoped you would say, those things looked like a bitch to make. I’ll hang around too, I had some questions about proper pre- and post-workout nutrition. Thanks!