My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

[quote]AlphaDragon wrote:
SashaG wrote:

Sasha, your post have always been helpful and this one is no different. Thansk for your input.

It’s strange, but I’m kinda a combination of both of what you’re talking about. yes, I’ve been sluggish and my mental clarity/sharpness is slow, but it’s not that I (as you say) “can’t think straight.” Mental ENERGY, however is a problem.

But my weight hasn’t changed and I’m actually still losing weight despite being on the same cal/day plan as before.

FYI: I’m training 4x/week with a modified westside conjugate, if that gives you any ideas.

Again, thanks.

AD[/quote]

Mate,

Thanks for the kind words and I’m happy to help. Here’s some more info for you to help you monitor your situation.

When you transition back to carbohydrate burning you will go through a similar rough period as you did when initially doing your first two weeks. There’s a crash so to speak and it takes time to get your body back to using carbs as fuel.

As for your training, to my knowledge, and I’m not an expert, westside training isn’t that calorically taxing and will no way deplete your muscle stores in one session. Your muscles can store on average about 40-50 grams of glycogen with your liver being able to store around 400 grams (from memory). If you want to stay in a ketogenic/fat burning state I would drop your carbs on training days.

To be honest, I think you may be dangerously close to that horrible middle area that I mentioned in my last post. If you are conistently sluggish you should either transition off the AD as your body should have an ample amount of stored energy with your bodyfat levels or you should resume taking in very little carbs.

Just my recommendation.

Sasha

[quote]miniarnold wrote:
Sash
any suggestions on digestion and going to the toilet, currently i am going every other day now, i am using digestive enzymes 1 5times per day with food, and taking a fiber supp giving me 22g of fiber, and also eating veg twice per day.
Is it normal to just go every other day, wen i dont go i feel heavy and sluggish a little bloated, wen i go i feel much better, lighter and leaner.
Should i increase digestive enzymes or fiber, any suggestions would be good
Thanks, MA
Would donner meat be ok on diet, it seems to be seasoned with bits of some sort?[/quote]

I would up your fibre intake definitely as it has so many great benefits that it never hurts. You can realistically go up to 40-50 grams a day (split up of course) with a mix of soluble and insoluble fibre. But, fibre may not be the answer we’re looking for with your stool question.

A couple questions for you:
1/ What does your daily caloric level look like
2/ How long have you been on the AD
3/ What does your fat intake look like
4/ How intensely are you exercising
5/ Do you have any idea of how fast your metabolic rate is right now (body temp, resting heart rate, thyroid function, etc)

Shoot back with those and I’ll try to help troubleshoot your issue.

Cheers,
Sasha

im on day 9 of the conversion, and the wonderful flu like symptoms that ive heard people talk about, but never had the first time i did it, have now kicked it.

Thank god ive got one day left till the carb load.

My energy has been great all week, sleeping great, workouts have been fantastic, but now i just feel like someone hit my soul in the croth.

–JB

[quote]AlphaDragon wrote:
Hey Oval,

It’s personal matters that are making me consider making the change. I’ll get into the reasons in a moment. First let me say waht I’m currently doing.

30g CHO or less on non training days and about 70gcho on training days (with 40 or so of those CHO being in a PWO shake). So basically the same as you.

And I’ve limited my High CHO days to only 24 hours for this time. IF I increase CHO to more, I’ll not do the CHO ups (and therefore will, I figure, be off the AD at that point)

As for my reasons (I’ve enen taken a few days to reconsider this. This is a huge decision. It may sound like lame excuses but I’ve delved deeply into them and have erased most doubt from myself that it’s just an excuse. I hate excuses. I hate excuses to cover laziness even more) :

  1. In this country (at least in this part of this country) we buy meat fresh daily. As in go to an outside market and you see a slab of cow on what is usually a long, tile covered table (yes, it’s still bloody)…you negotiate and buy it. Then you bring it home and cut it up yourself and cook it up fresh. now, that’s AWESOME for freshness and all…but my refrigerator is about 1’x1’x2’(tall) in size. I’m not able to store food except for what I’ll be using that day.

Too much time to go buy, cut, cook meat these days. I’m either working, studying, visiting hospitals or homeless shelters or attending classes myself. Not to mention travel.

And yes, I had a cook for that time (friends mother…paid her a salary for the last 15 months or so), but that time is over (long story that I’ll spare you of). Don’t really have an “in” to another cook I can trust.

Now maybe that sounds like an excuse for laziness to you, but in fact I’m FAR too busy to spend 1-2 extra hours in shopping/preparation per DAY for meals for the DAY!!

Oh, and the freezer is about 1’x1’x1’(tall). Couldn’t store enough food (in true AD fashion) in it if my life depended on it.

  1. I’ve recently begun to realize how important it is to actually (if you’ll forgive the term) “break bread” with our friends and other bretheren. It’s actually a unifying experience between us and those we love.

I’m also spending more time with people less fortunate than me and it’s RARE to find lots of high fat/pro meals with them. If I do, I have to ASK for something they didn’t prepare and inconvience them. But they do it because they care about me.

I’m not talking about conformity to others…or ANY kind of peer pressure (I endured that for 6 months initially, and it has since ceased. These days I don’t even get a single bit of flack about it. In fact, the flack I initially received only served to divide me from my friends in a way while making me more militant into keeping my way). I’m more referring to the human bond that is made by sharing the same food and portions with fellows and not driving a dividing wedge between us.

Now if I go off the AD, I’m NOT going to eat garbage/junk food…of that I’m certain. My friends eat healthy (in general…errr, at least during “mealtimes”…let’s not talk about snaks and stuff)…And I’m leery to change because the AD is SOOOOOO simple…and to learn a completely new way of eating is quite daunting. Especially after over 15 months of eating the AD way…

Anyway, that’s the long and short of it.

And I do welcome any thoughts about what I’ve said here.

AD[/quote]

Man, first and foremost, I wouldn’t accuse you of being lazy. Having lived abroad myself, at times out of a suitcase, I can relate to working hard just to eat food that fits the diet.

I should also say, I have an extensive background in Anthropology and can relate to what you mean by the importance of “breaking bread”. It’s true! Man is a strange creature :slight_smile:

Finally, I have cycled off the AD before and can tell you that what Sasha wrote above, that you will undergo a metabolic shift that can be mildly uncomfortable and akin to your shift to fat adaptation, is very true. Lethargy, extreme carb coma, and explosive trips to the toilet are to be expected.

[quote]SashaG wrote:
miniarnold wrote:
Sash
any suggestions on digestion and going to the toilet, currently i am going every other day now, i am using digestive enzymes 1 5times per day with food, and taking a fiber supp giving me 22g of fiber, and also eating veg twice per day.
Is it normal to just go every other day, wen i dont go i feel heavy and sluggish a little bloated, wen i go i feel much better, lighter and leaner.
Should i increase digestive enzymes or fiber, any suggestions would be good
Thanks, MA
Would donner meat be ok on diet, it seems to be seasoned with bits of some sort?

I would up your fibre intake definitely as it has so many great benefits that it never hurts. You can realistically go up to 40-50 grams a day (split up of course) with a mix of soluble and insoluble fibre. But, fibre may not be the answer we’re looking for with your stool question.

A couple questions for you:
1/ What does your daily caloric level look like
2/ How long have you been on the AD
3/ What does your fat intake look like
4/ How intensely are you exercising
5/ Do you have any idea of how fast your metabolic rate is right now (body temp, resting heart rate, thyroid function, etc)

Shoot back with those and I’ll try to help troubleshoot your issue.

Cheers,
Sasha
[/quote]

I wasnt sure wether to up fiber intake and or enzymes.
Started the AD last monday so this is day 11.
Been monitoring cals each day 3550-3650.
Pretty much 285-300g protein, 250-265gfat and anything from 17-25g carbs per day.
Fat sources red meat, olive, flax oil, nut oil, nuts almonds, pecans, brazils, salmon
Been doing morning cardio low intensity approx 50mins 5-6 days a week and bodybuilding bodypart training again 5-6 days a week.
Quite lean about 11% bf or so, resting heart rate approx 45-50.thyroid was ok from last blood test earlier last yr, temp i dont no.
Just not going the loo each day and wondered wether this is normal and others experience it due to the diets lack of starchy carbs and high fiber foods, feel great when i go and crap wen i dont.
Thanks Sash.
MA.

[quote]miniarnold wrote:
SashaG wrote:
miniarnold wrote:
Sash
any suggestions on digestion and going to the toilet, currently i am going every other day now, i am using digestive enzymes 1 5times per day with food, and taking a fiber supp giving me 22g of fiber, and also eating veg twice per day.
Is it normal to just go every other day, wen i dont go i feel heavy and sluggish a little bloated, wen i go i feel much better, lighter and leaner.
Should i increase digestive enzymes or fiber, any suggestions would be good
Thanks, MA
Would donner meat be ok on diet, it seems to be seasoned with bits of some sort?

I would up your fibre intake definitely as it has so many great benefits that it never hurts. You can realistically go up to 40-50 grams a day (split up of course) with a mix of soluble and insoluble fibre. But, fibre may not be the answer we’re looking for with your stool question.

A couple questions for you:
1/ What does your daily caloric level look like
2/ How long have you been on the AD
3/ What does your fat intake look like
4/ How intensely are you exercising
5/ Do you have any idea of how fast your metabolic rate is right now (body temp, resting heart rate, thyroid function, etc)

Shoot back with those and I’ll try to help troubleshoot your issue.

Cheers,
Sasha

I wasnt sure wether to up fiber intake and or enzymes.
Started the AD last monday so this is day 11.
Been monitoring cals each day 3550-3650.
Pretty much 285-300g protein, 250-265gfat and anything from 17-25g carbs per day.
Fat sources red meat, olive, flax oil, nut oil, nuts almonds, pecans, brazils, salmon
Been doing morning cardio low intensity approx 50mins 5-6 days a week and bodybuilding bodypart training again 5-6 days a week.
Quite lean about 11% bf or so, resting heart rate approx 45-50.thyroid was ok from last blood test earlier last yr, temp i dont no.
Just not going the loo each day and wondered wether this is normal and others experience it due to the diets lack of starchy carbs and high fiber foods, feel great when i go and crap wen i dont.
Thanks Sash.
MA.[/quote]

Also i am due to carb up this wkend after 12days of high protein and fat, i have not felt any change or metabolic switch to speak of, this week been mentally diff to last week, last week felt really good, training and mentally. This week in the gym lacking motivation and focus but not sure if thats the diet or my own personal life/problems and not going the loo properly annoying me.
So i was wondering wether to carb up this weekend as normal or continue no carbs for another week, or just carb up one day this weekend, just dont no if i made the switch and need to go longer without carbs?
What would you suggest b4 morning cardio, any oils?
Do you think perhaps i should up cals bearing in mind training twice a day, as the AS book states the start up phase should be around 18xweight in lbs wich is what i have been following.
Just stressing, generally its been good but this week not so good, just want the most out of the diet and results as i no all great potential for it is ther.
Thanks again
MA.

I know this is a your mileage may vary type thing, but how many cals do you guys take in during a 24 hr carb load while cutting?

The reason I’m asking is because in the AD ebook, there’s a meal plan for a 1500 calorie carb load, which is surprising, because it implies that during a cut/carb load the doc recommends equal calories.

This is damn near impossible. How the hell can you eat 1500 cals at 60% carbs?! I think one of the “meals” at this cal/macro reload he recommends is like 1 breadstick lol.

I’m cutting a bit and my carb load yesterday was probably 3000-3200 cals. I’m doing about 1600-1800 cals a day anabolically. I have a lot of difficultly not eating voraciously during a load: i try to keep the protein low as the book recommends but then I’m like never full. Truth be told, because of this I ended up binging on vegetables yesterday to stay satiated. Needless to say, yesterday my gas was so bad you didn’t want to go within 1200 feet.

[quote]ovalpline wrote:
AlphaDragon wrote:
Hey Oval,

It’s personal matters that are making me consider making the change. I’ll get into the reasons in a moment. First let me say waht I’m currently doing.

30g CHO or less on non training days and about 70gcho on training days (with 40 or so of those CHO being in a PWO shake). So basically the same as you.

And I’ve limited my High CHO days to only 24 hours for this time. IF I increase CHO to more, I’ll not do the CHO ups (and therefore will, I figure, be off the AD at that point)

As for my reasons (I’ve enen taken a few days to reconsider this. This is a huge decision. It may sound like lame excuses but I’ve delved deeply into them and have erased most doubt from myself that it’s just an excuse. I hate excuses. I hate excuses to cover laziness even more) :

  1. In this country (at least in this part of this country) we buy meat fresh daily. As in go to an outside market and you see a slab of cow on what is usually a long, tile covered table (yes, it’s still bloody)…you negotiate and buy it. Then you bring it home and cut it up yourself and cook it up fresh. now, that’s AWESOME for freshness and all…but my refrigerator is about 1’x1’x2’(tall) in size. I’m not able to store food except for what I’ll be using that day.

Too much time to go buy, cut, cook meat these days. I’m either working, studying, visiting hospitals or homeless shelters or attending classes myself. Not to mention travel.

And yes, I had a cook for that time (friends mother…paid her a salary for the last 15 months or so), but that time is over (long story that I’ll spare you of). Don’t really have an “in” to another cook I can trust.

Now maybe that sounds like an excuse for laziness to you, but in fact I’m FAR too busy to spend 1-2 extra hours in shopping/preparation per DAY for meals for the DAY!!

Oh, and the freezer is about 1’x1’x1’(tall). Couldn’t store enough food (in true AD fashion) in it if my life depended on it.

  1. I’ve recently begun to realize how important it is to actually (if you’ll forgive the term) “break bread” with our friends and other bretheren. It’s actually a unifying experience between us and those we love.

I’m also spending more time with people less fortunate than me and it’s RARE to find lots of high fat/pro meals with them. If I do, I have to ASK for something they didn’t prepare and inconvience them. But they do it because they care about me.

I’m not talking about conformity to others…or ANY kind of peer pressure (I endured that for 6 months initially, and it has since ceased. These days I don’t even get a single bit of flack about it. In fact, the flack I initially received only served to divide me from my friends in a way while making me more militant into keeping my way). I’m more referring to the human bond that is made by sharing the same food and portions with fellows and not driving a dividing wedge between us.

Now if I go off the AD, I’m NOT going to eat garbage/junk food…of that I’m certain. My friends eat healthy (in general…errr, at least during “mealtimes”…let’s not talk about snaks and stuff)…And I’m leery to change because the AD is SOOOOOO simple…and to learn a completely new way of eating is quite daunting. Especially after over 15 months of eating the AD way…

Anyway, that’s the long and short of it.

And I do welcome any thoughts about what I’ve said here.

AD

Man, first and foremost, I wouldn’t accuse you of being lazy. Having lived abroad myself, at times out of a suitcase, I can relate to working hard just to eat food that fits the diet.

I should also say, I have an extensive background in Anthropology and can relate to what you mean by the importance of “breaking bread”. It’s true! Man is a strange creature :slight_smile:

Finally, I have cycled off the AD before and can tell you that what Sasha wrote above, that you will undergo a metabolic shift that can be mildly uncomfortable and akin to your shift to fat adaptation, is very true. Lethargy, extreme carb coma, and explosive trips to the toilet are to be expected.[/quote]

Thanks for the words, Oval and I’m glad someone understands my reasons. I still find it hard to believe I’m going off the AD after 15 months on.

I’m afraid I’m right smack in the middle of what Sasha and you wrote about the shift.

In fact, this shift is maybe 5-10 times worse than what I did before when I initially became fat adapted. I mean, in terms of lethargy and energy loss (not to mention mental fogginess).

Any ideas on how to transition off the AD without these, or at least, minimizing them (and of course, not bloating up to the size of the GoodYear Blimp).

Thanks for any input

Jason

[quote]SashaG wrote:
Mate,

Thanks for the kind words and I’m happy to help. Here’s some more info for you to help you monitor your situation.

When you transition back to carbohydrate burning you will go through a similar rough period as you did when initially doing your first two weeks. There’s a crash so to speak and it takes time to get your body back to using carbs as fuel.

As for your training, to my knowledge, and I’m not an expert, westside training isn’t that calorically taxing and will no way deplete your muscle stores in one session. Your muscles can store on average about 40-50 grams of glycogen with your liver being able to store around 400 grams (from memory). If you want to stay in a ketogenic/fat burning state I would drop your carbs on training days.

To be honest, I think you may be dangerously close to that horrible middle area that I mentioned in my last post. If you are conistently sluggish you should either transition off the AD as your body should have an ample amount of stored energy with your bodyfat levels or you should resume taking in very little carbs.

Just my recommendation.

Sasha
[/quote]

Hey bud,

As I said in a previous post to Oval right before I posted this repsonse, it looks like (due to reasons I’ve detailed in a previous post) that I’m going off the AD after 15 months on. I still have a hard time accepting it but I know it’s what must be done.

Any ideas how to transition off of the AD into a 40/40/20 P/C/F ration plan?

AND: any way to deal with the mental fogginess and general lethargy (I wanted to sleep ALL day) I’m feeling?

Thanks for your words and any input.

Jason

By the way, this is what CT said about what I should do about transitiong off the AD, but I screwed up when i asked him about my current problems (in a repost). Darn. Anyway, this is what he said initially and as of tomorrow, I’ll be going to step 2.

CT said:
"Well, if you want to make the transition without gaining fat, it will need some time as you need to do things very gradually.

STEP 1. Add around 50g of carbs post-workout while the rest of the day is low-carbs. Do this for 1-2 weeks.

STEP 2. Add 25-50g of carbs in the form of berries at breakfast (so you are no consuming 75-100g of carbs more than when you were on a low-carbs diet). Again, maintain this for 1-2 weeks.

STEP 3. If the preceding did not make you fat; add 25g of carbs post-workout and 25g at breakfast (so you are now consuming 125-150g more than when you were on a low-carbs diet). Maintain this for 1-2 weeks.

STEP 4. If your current carbs intake still isn’t leading to fat gain you can add 50g of carbs more at the second post-workout meal (60-90 minutes after your first one). So you are now 175-200g above your low-carbs intake.

  • Most people, if they do things gradually can get to this level without gaining fat. From here you simply adjust your carbs intake upwards until you find the upper limit that you can handle without gaining too much fat. Normally it will be around 1.5 - 1.75g per pound of bodyweight.

Once you find the optimal carbs intake for you, simply keep using a balanced/dissociated diet (never have fats and carbs at the same meal) of around 40% protein, 40% carbs and 20% fat. The meals are as follow:

BREAKFAST: protein + carbs
Meal 2: protein + fat
Post-workout 1: protein + carbs
Post-workout 2: protein + carbs
Meal 5: protein + fat
Before bed: protein + fat"

But the key is to make the transition GRADUALLY.

[quote]AlphaDragon wrote:
By the way, this is what CT said about what I should do about transitiong off the AD, but I screwed up when i asked him about my current problems (in a repost). Darn. Anyway, this is what he said initially and as of tomorrow, I’ll be going to step 2.

CT said:
"Well, if you want to make the transition without gaining fat, it will need some time as you need to do things very gradually.

STEP 1. Add around 50g of carbs post-workout while the rest of the day is low-carbs. Do this for 1-2 weeks.

STEP 2. Add 25-50g of carbs in the form of berries at breakfast (so you are no consuming 75-100g of carbs more than when you were on a low-carbs diet). Again, maintain this for 1-2 weeks.

STEP 3. If the preceding did not make you fat; add 25g of carbs post-workout and 25g at breakfast (so you are now consuming 125-150g more than when you were on a low-carbs diet). Maintain this for 1-2 weeks.

STEP 4. If your current carbs intake still isn’t leading to fat gain you can add 50g of carbs more at the second post-workout meal (60-90 minutes after your first one). So you are now 175-200g above your low-carbs intake.

  • Most people, if they do things gradually can get to this level without gaining fat. From here you simply adjust your carbs intake upwards until you find the upper limit that you can handle without gaining too much fat. Normally it will be around 1.5 - 1.75g per pound of bodyweight.

Once you find the optimal carbs intake for you, simply keep using a balanced/dissociated diet (never have fats and carbs at the same meal) of around 40% protein, 40% carbs and 20% fat. The meals are as follow:

BREAKFAST: protein + carbs
Meal 2: protein + fat
Post-workout 1: protein + carbs
Post-workout 2: protein + carbs
Meal 5: protein + fat
Before bed: protein + fat"

But the key is to make the transition GRADUALLY. [/quote]

AD,

The general principle of what CT is saying is correct but what I would add is that if you want to minimise any catabolism you should still take in a decent amount of healthy fats as you transition. This will help deal with the increased frequency of calls for insulin and glycogen storage.It may also be worth picking up some r-ALA to help with glucose disposal.

Also, while berries are great for anti-oxidants, I hate fructose as an energy source and never use them as a carb source around your workout.

Aside from that, the principles are very much as CT describes. I just don’t believe that you need to be as sensitive at seperating healthy fats from protein and carb meals (PWO aside). Just see how your body reacts and we can help you troubleshoot as you go.

Sasha

Hey, I’m about to do my second carb-up this weekend. Does it make a difference if I start in the afternoon after work Friday and carb up until Sunday morning/early afternoon? Or is it best to start carbing up in the morning? I couldn’t find anything on that in the Anabolic Solution eBook so I’m wondering if a difference exists. Thanks.

[quote]SashaG wrote:
AD,

The general principle of what CT is saying is correct but what I would add is that if you want to minimise any catabolism you should still take in a decent amount of healthy fats as you transition. This will help deal with the increased frequency of calls for insulin and glycogen storage.It may also be worth picking up some r-ALA to help with glucose disposal.

Also, while berries are great for anti-oxidants, I hate fructose as an energy source and never use them as a carb source around your workout.

Aside from that, the principles are very much as CT describes. I just don’t believe that you need to be as sensitive at seperating healthy fats from protein and carb meals (PWO aside). Just see how your body reacts and we can help you troubleshoot as you go.

Sasha
[/quote]

Oh I absoloutely am, bro.

In fact, I’ve not altered the AD but am adding in the extra CHO as time goes on. I am still getting the doses of healthy fats as normal.

PWO (about 40-45 g CHO). Thats my Cho these days. As of today I added in the berries. Feeling good, but still…

I’m kinda wondering why I’m yo-yo-ing about these lethargic feelings. Kinda like multi-crashes from fat sourced to carb sourced.

Thanks again, bro.

Jason

[quote]hexx wrote:
I know this is a your mileage may vary type thing, but how many cals do you guys take in during a 24 hr carb load while cutting?

The reason I’m asking is because in the AD ebook, there’s a meal plan for a 1500 calorie carb load, which is surprising, because it implies that during a cut/carb load the doc recommends equal calories.

This is damn near impossible. How the hell can you eat 1500 cals at 60% carbs?! I think one of the “meals” at this cal/macro reload he recommends is like 1 breadstick lol.

I’m cutting a bit and my carb load yesterday was probably 3000-3200 cals. I’m doing about 1600-1800 cals a day anabolically. I have a lot of difficultly not eating voraciously during a load: i try to keep the protein low as the book recommends but then I’m like never full. Truth be told, because of this I ended up binging on vegetables yesterday to stay satiated. Needless to say, yesterday my gas was so bad you didn’t want to go within 1200 feet. [/quote]

Mate,

If you are cutting I would recommend dropping the duration of your loads to 300-400 grams of carbs (400-500 grams if you are over 200 lbs) spread over 2-3 meals on a Sunday. This will give you plenty of an opportunity to super-saturate your muscle stores with glycogen and manage your thyroid and leptin levels for the week.

Also the gas, you probably need to identify the foods that your body best responds to during your load. It’s a trial and error thing but the gas tends to come from un-digested food (or allergies). During your load make sure you are chewing your food until it is mush as 1/3 of your digestive process happens in your mouth.

Good luck.

Sasha

Hello everyone. Don’t post much on this thread anymore but I have been on this diet for almost a year now. I eat a dozen eggs a day along with lots of chicken sausage and steak. Had my cholesterol checked and just found out everything is just great! Keep in mind high cholesterol runs high in my family along with high blood pressure so I don’t think genetics plays into it. Blood pressure was great along with everything else. Could be the fishoil caps, the fiber sups, the diet or a combo, I’m not sure what it is but this shows that its possible to be healthy on the AD .

Any suggestions Sash? on last 2 posts
Cheers
MA

Sorry for lowering the tone! However, anyone any good advice regarding constipation on the AD. I’ve been on the AD for 8 weeks and the problem seems to getting worse. I supplement with a heaped tablespoon of pysillium husks - as well as eat loads of fibreous veg - and it doesn’t appear to be doing much.

I’ve taken a herbal laxative twice. First time it worked and second time it didn’t. And I’ve read that you want to avoid even these if at all possible.
Any suggestions (apart from colonic irrigation!)?

James, i eat a ton of green veggies, but i also take a fiber supplement, and ive never had any problems.

BTW, im about 12 hours into my 36 hour carb up, cant wait to have some Surge during my workout, then its off for Sushi, and then later tonight its pizza, beer, and cheap sluts[Shugart reference].

–JB

[quote]JamesBrawn007 wrote:
Sorry for lowering the tone! However, anyone any good advice regarding constipation on the AD. I’ve been on the AD for 8 weeks and the problem seems to getting worse. I supplement with a heaped tablespoon of pysillium husks - as well as eat loads of fibreous veg - and it doesn’t appear to be doing much.

I’ve taken a herbal laxative twice. First time it worked and second time it didn’t. And I’ve read that you want to avoid even these if at all possible.
Any suggestions (apart from colonic irrigation!)?[/quote]

Im struggling with that myself, i take digestive enzymes and a fiber supp and im finding it hard to go a real struggle, im on my second week and due to carb up this weekend.

One tablespoon isnt much you should increase it mate.
Its been getting me down a bit as i look way better wen i go properly wen i dont i feel bloated.

[quote]WS4JB wrote:
James, i eat a ton of green veggies, but i also take a fiber supplement, and ive never had any problems.

BTW, im about 12 hours into my 36 hour carb up, cant wait to have some Surge during my workout, then its off for Sushi, and then later tonight its pizza, beer, and cheap sluts[Shugart reference].

–JB[/quote]

I’ll up the fibre supplement and force an extra litre of water a day into my system and see what happens.

BTW, carb up begins tomorrow, which starts with porridge and blueberries; couple of blueberry muffins for a snack (yes, I like blueberries), and then I will be partaking of some saturday afternoon ale. Ok it’s not exactly AD friendly but hey ho.