My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

Nutrition
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[quote]SashaG wrote:

Trib,

I must say my friend that I have to kindly disagree with your thoughts on digestive enzymes. Actually, there is a lot of interesting research being coming out that because of mass farming and fertilizer use our natural body’s ability to digest food properly is impaired. Supplemental enzymes, especially proteis focused ones like Betaine HCL can actually dramatically improve the uptake of amino acids. On a diet like the AD this is especially important given that a large percentage of the diet is protein based. While fibre will help the GI as a whole, as will pre- and probiotics, enzyme supplementation is probably best suited for the AD.

Also, for those who are getting your blood work done, you should see if they can take a look at your blood at a cellular level through a microscope. This will really give you an insight as to whether you are digesting your foods well.

Finally, and this sounds silly but trust me it makes a huge difference, chew your food until it is mush. 1/3 of digestion happens in the mouth so when you are scarfing down your meals make sure you are taking your time to chew.

Nice to be back boys.

Sasha
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Fair enough and it does not sound silly about thoroughly chewing your food which is why about 80% of all mine goes through the food processor. http://www.T-Nation.com/tmagnum/readTopic.do?id=1296825 the recipe has been revised some since then, but I still do this which may help explain why I have excellent digestion. I do it the night before and put it in canning jars for the next day.

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[quote]miniarnold wrote:
Stil not got the hang of posting on this yet, messed up quoting previous post.

I have a hard time tribilus going to the toilet properly even on a carb diet with lots of fiber in it, the woman at the health food store suggested to me that my digestive system may not be working properly and be sluggish, she assured me the enzymes are safe and fine to use indefinately

I have been using fibersure daily but i am not convinced it works as it dissolves instantly?!
Starting to use physsilium husks today it has prebiotics and good bacteria in it

Thought of some questions this morning at 4am when i was wide awake
Do i need to count the carbs in veg, i no there is no need to count the fiber as it has no impact on blood sugar levels, but the carbs?
Whats best PWO just protein powder minus carbs to hit muscles faster or with a fat source like oil or cream?
How much fiber (husks) should i use per day and should i space out the doesage?
Is sweetners in hot drinks ok?
Thanx for help guys, i so want this diet to work[/quote]

Look for a product called multi-fiber by Nature’s Secret, its hands down the best for dealing with sluggish bowels. Also some konsyl fiber / psyllium works very well with it without worsening the constipation. Psyllium by itself can worsen constipation in my experience if your bowels are sluggish.

For the Multi-fiber follow the directions, and for Psyllium 1 tablespoon in the morning and 1 before bed to stay consistent works great.

For sweetners sucralose has different effects on people and I have actually read where someone had a diet soda and tested their insulin response and it raised it, so I guess it can vary. I use stevia and haven’t noticed any problems, avoid fillers such as maltodextrin.

Only count Net Carbs in vegetables and other foods , so total carbs minus grams of fiber is what you count.

Any whey protein isolate with 0 carbs is a great protein replacement just make sure you take it with your fats such as olive oil or peanut butter.

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[quote]miniarnold wrote:
Stil not got the hang of posting on this yet, messed up quoting previous post.

I have a hard time tribilus going to the toilet properly even on a carb diet with lots of fiber in it, the woman at the health food store suggested to me that my digestive system may not be working properly and be sluggish, she assured me the enzymes are safe and fine to use indefinately

I have been using fibersure daily but i am not convinced it works as it dissolves instantly?!
Starting to use physsilium husks today it has prebiotics and good bacteria in it

Thought of some questions this morning at 4am when i was wide awake
Do i need to count the carbs in veg, i no there is no need to count the fiber as it has no impact on blood sugar levels, but the carbs?
Whats best PWO just protein powder minus carbs to hit muscles faster or with a fat source like oil or cream?
How much fiber (husks) should i use per day and should i space out the doesage?
Is sweetners in hot drinks ok?
Thanx for help guys, i so want this diet to work[/quote]

Look for a product called multi-fiber by Nature’s Secret, its hands down the best for dealing with sluggish bowels. Also some konsyl fiber / psyllium works very well with it without worsening the constipation. Psyllium by itself can worsen constipation in my experience if your bowels are sluggish.

For the Multi-fiber follow the directions, and for Psyllium 1 tablespoon in the morning and 1 before bed to stay consistent works great.

For sweetners sucralose has different effects on people and I have actually read where someone had a diet soda and tested their insulin response and it raised it, so I guess it can vary. I use stevia and haven’t noticed any problems, avoid fillers such as maltodextrin.

Only count Net Carbs in vegetables and other foods , so total carbs minus grams of fiber is what you count.

Any whey protein isolate with 0 carbs is a great protein replacement just make sure you take it with your fats such as olive oil or peanut butter.

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Random rant…

Just wanted to report that I had my first carb weekend with NOTHING but clean foods (honey being the “worst” food item). The results blew away previous carb loads involving cheat foods.

It’s definitely important to figure out what type of carb weekend works for you. Don’t assume you can have multiple cheat meals and still feel great like I once did. If you’re new to the diet, I’d start loading on clean carbs and introduce cheat meals one by one as the weeks go on. For instance, if one where to eat 6 meals each day, that would be 12 meals for the weekend. Week 1 try just eating clean. Assuming you can handle that well, try adding a cheat meal the next week, making it 11 clean meals, 1 cheat meal. If that worked great, add another cheat meal the next week, making it 10 clean, 2 cheat. etc.

This way you can sensibly find how many are optimal for YOUR body.

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Is multi fiber and konsyl fiber american?
I have psyllium started to use that so hope it does the job

It says in the AS book diet drinks and sweetners are fine just avoid sorbitol, i use sweetners that have sucrolose in so now i am more paranoid than before as i suspected they may cause an insulin release.

thanx for your post danielrb

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[quote]danielrb wrote:
miniarnold wrote:
Stil not got the hang of posting on this yet, messed up quoting previous post.

I have a hard time tribilus going to the toilet properly even on a carb diet with lots of fiber in it, the woman at the health food store suggested to me that my digestive system may not be working properly and be sluggish, she assured me the enzymes are safe and fine to use indefinately

I have been using fibersure daily but i am not convinced it works as it dissolves instantly?!
Starting to use physsilium husks today it has prebiotics and good bacteria in it

Thought of some questions this morning at 4am when i was wide awake
Do i need to count the carbs in veg, i no there is no need to count the fiber as it has no impact on blood sugar levels, but the carbs?
Whats best PWO just protein powder minus carbs to hit muscles faster or with a fat source like oil or cream?
How much fiber (husks) should i use per day and should i space out the doesage?
Is sweetners in hot drinks ok?
Thanx for help guys, i so want this diet to work

Look for a product called multi-fiber by Nature’s Secret, its hands down the best for dealing with sluggish bowels. Also some konsyl fiber / psyllium works very well with it without worsening the constipation. Psyllium by itself can worsen constipation in my experience if your bowels are sluggish.

For the Multi-fiber follow the directions, and for Psyllium 1 tablespoon in the morning and 1 before bed to stay consistent works great.

For sweetners sucralose has different effects on people and I have actually read where someone had a diet soda and tested their insulin response and it raised it, so I guess it can vary. I use stevia and haven’t noticed any problems, avoid fillers such as maltodextrin.

Only count Net Carbs in vegetables and other foods , so total carbs minus grams of fiber is what you count.

Any whey protein isolate with 0 carbs is a great protein replacement just make sure you take it with your fats such as olive oil or peanut butter.

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Is multi fiber and konsyl fiber american?
I have just started using psyllium husks and digestive enzymes so hopefully they will do the trick

It says in the AS book diet drinks and sweetners are fine but to avoid sorbitol, i use a sweetner with sucrolose in and i was a bit paranoid about them giving me an insulin spike even though i only have a few in a hot drink

Should coffee be reduced or used freely
Thanks for your post danielrb

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I looked up the carb content of whiskey and the internet said it was free of carbs, and so i drank a bottle of it during my introduction week- which is still going on. I know alcohol is some sort of carbohydrate so should i restart my count? I’m going to spend longer than a week for the introduction week because i’m on the injured list right now and can’t really train

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Folks,

Be very careful with sweeteners as there are carbohydrates in almost all of them. Because sucralose, aspartame and the like are all far too sweet for us to tolerate the manufacturers dilute the powder with maltodextrin and other carbohydrate based additives.

If you are in the US you can use stevia extract as the net impact beyond negligable. If you are in the UK and most of Europe, the pill based sweeteners like Hermestos are cool because they are pure. Diet drinks like diet coke, sprite zero, etc are cool so drink away.

As for all sugar alcohols, these should be counted towards you daily carb intake. As should alcohol itself.

Coffee is great but use in moderation as your sensitivity to it will increase while on the AD.

Sasha

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
jonnosferatu wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
jonnosferatu wrote:
I (slightly) question both cardio contentions, though I see the line of reasoning. Fasted cardio will probably still hit some muscle compared to a meal a few hours after a smaller meal, but I understand that it’ll almost certainly hit less here, and HIIT is vastly superior to conventional cardio regardless (conditioning purposes, mostly, though the protein sparing will still apply to some degree). >>>

Unless you are absolutely Clarence Bass ripped, adipose stores will be used during fasted cardio once you’re fully adapted.

When you can provide me with some scientific evidence of this, I’ll be more than happy to take it as fact, but since very little research has actually been done relating to those on AD, I think I’ll stick with the notion that exertion without anything in your stomach is probably not the best idea, particularly if you’re interested in the long term rather than the short term.

Do what you want. As long as you’re happy. Nothing is as “scientific” to me as observable results. I have never bought the whole fasted cardio necessarily eats muscle thing, even before the AD, because I am living proof that in at least some cases it just isn’t true. I don’t particularly care what some white coats in a lab conducting an under designed study come up with when it conflicts with empirical results. The old saying: A man with an experience is never at the mercy of a man with an argument".

Take a cup of green tea and a teaspoon of EVOO a half hour before morning cardio and once your metabolism is fully primed from using that little bit of fat it will dip into adipose stores quite happily and you will burn that just about exclusively thus getting leaner and losing practically no muscle at all. Especially if you’re fully adapted. If anybody tries this and that does not happen I’ll post a picture of myself in a pink ballerina outfit. It makes absolutely no sense to eat protein before cardio when you’re trying to burn fat. If anything that will train your metabolism to use aminos for energy. I don’t care what studies say whatever, I have demonstrated this to myself.

Whatever anybody else thinks is their own affair.[/quote]

So essentially, ‘not fasted cardio’. Fasted would mean that you have literally not consumed anything other than water since you woke up. If you provide any form of fuel for your body prior to the cardio, it is by definition not ‘fasted’.

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[quote]jonnosferatu wrote:
<<< it is by definition not ‘fasted’.[/quote]

OK, it’s by definition not fasted

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[quote]SashaG wrote:
Folks,

Be very careful with sweeteners as there are carbohydrates in almost all of them. Because sucralose, aspartame and the like are all far too sweet for us to tolerate the manufacturers dilute the powder with maltodextrin and other carbohydrate based additives.

If you are in the US you can use stevia extract as the net impact beyond negligable. If you are in the UK and most of Europe, the pill based sweeteners like Hermestos are cool because they are pure. Diet drinks like diet coke, sprite zero, etc are cool so drink away.

As for all sugar alcohols, these should be counted towards you daily carb intake. As should alcohol itself.

Coffee is great but use in moderation as your sensitivity to it will increase while on the AD.

Sasha
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So would you recomend against splenda tablet sweetners sasha, they contain sucralose they contain carbs but i should imagine it wud be next to none for a few tabs?

I have tried hermasetas sweetners and they taste awful,
Have you come across Natreen sweetners they are carb free and contain neither aspartame or sucralose cant remember the sweetner but i will find out, you can buy them from B&M bargains.

I dont have many hot drinks per day but i wud like to use a sweetner that i no wont have an adverse effect on the AD low carb rules?

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
jonnosferatu wrote:
<<< it is by definition not ‘fasted’.

OK, it’s by definition not fasted[/quote]

LOL! I love you, Tirib.

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[quote]miniarnold wrote:
SashaG wrote:
Folks,

Be very careful with sweeteners as there are carbohydrates in almost all of them. Because sucralose, aspartame and the like are all far too sweet for us to tolerate the manufacturers dilute the powder with maltodextrin and other carbohydrate based additives.

If you are in the US you can use stevia extract as the net impact beyond negligable. If you are in the UK and most of Europe, the pill based sweeteners like Hermestos are cool because they are pure. Diet drinks like diet coke, sprite zero, etc are cool so drink away.

As for all sugar alcohols, these should be counted towards you daily carb intake. As should alcohol itself.

Coffee is great but use in moderation as your sensitivity to it will increase while on the AD.

Sasha

So would you recomend against splenda tablet sweetners sasha, they contain sucralose they contain carbs but i should imagine it wud be next to none for a few tabs?

I have tried hermasetas sweetners and they taste awful,
Have you come across Natreen sweetners they are carb free and contain neither aspartame or sucralose cant remember the sweetner but i will find out, you can buy them from B&M bargains.

I dont have many hot drinks per day but i wud like to use a sweetner that i no wont have an adverse effect on the AD low carb rules?
[/quote]

The tablet based splenda sweeteners here have lactose which is also a carbohydrate. Not sure about natreen but as long as they are calorie free you are cool.

They are tricky with sweeteners but they definitely help with a diet/lifestyle such as this.

Cheers,
Sasha

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[quote]ovalpline wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
jonnosferatu wrote:
<<< it is by definition not ‘fasted’.

OK, it’s by definition not fasted

LOL! I love you, Tirib.

[/quote]

Better watch that stuff man, people will talk =]

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
ovalpline wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
jonnosferatu wrote:
<<< it is by definition not ‘fasted’.

OK, it’s by definition not fasted

LOL! I love you, Tirib.

Better watch that stuff man, people will talk =][/quote]

…well maybe if you hadn’t got us started with that whole “ballerina” thing…yeeesh -

shameless -just shameless

:wink:

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on the sweetener and drink topic, is crystal light ok to drink? The label says no carbs. At the end if day 10 now I can almost taste it!!!

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Tirib in balerinia stuff?

Is that a new type of “gear?” :stuck_out_tongue:

AD

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Oh, and I’m still on the AD although I’ve made a few changes, in case people saw my posts on CT’s locker. :wink:

AD

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[quote]SashaG wrote:
miniarnold wrote:
SashaG wrote:
Folks,

Be very careful with sweeteners as there are carbohydrates in almost all of them. Because sucralose, aspartame and the like are all far too sweet for us to tolerate the manufacturers dilute the powder with maltodextrin and other carbohydrate based additives.

If you are in the US you can use stevia extract as the net impact beyond negligable. If you are in the UK and most of Europe, the pill based sweeteners like Hermestos are cool because they are pure. Diet drinks like diet coke, sprite zero, etc are cool so drink away.

As for all sugar alcohols, these should be counted towards you daily carb intake. As should alcohol itself.

Coffee is great but use in moderation as your sensitivity to it will increase while on the AD.

Sasha

So would you recomend against splenda tablet sweetners sasha, they contain sucralose they contain carbs but i should imagine it wud be next to none for a few tabs?

I have tried hermasetas sweetners and they taste awful,
Have you come across Natreen sweetners they are carb free and contain neither aspartame or sucralose cant remember the sweetner but i will find out, you can buy them from B&M bargains.

I dont have many hot drinks per day but i wud like to use a sweetner that i no wont have an adverse effect on the AD low carb rules?

The tablet based splenda sweeteners here have lactose which is also a carbohydrate. Not sure about natreen but as long as they are calorie free you are cool.

They are tricky with sweeteners but they definitely help with a diet/lifestyle such as this.

Cheers,
Sasha

Yea your right, i have a sweet tooth and the only thing i crave is a sweet cup of tea or coffee (with suitable sweetners),
is the use of soya milk ok, unsweetened from asda (organics range contains no carbs some fat and a little fiber)
Are you on the AD Sasha?
Cheers

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SashaG wrote:

The tablet based splenda sweeteners here have lactose which is also a carbohydrate. Not sure about natreen but as long as they are calorie free you are cool.

They are tricky with sweeteners but they definitely help with a diet/lifestyle such as this.

Cheers,
Sasha

Thanks sasha, your right i have a sweet tooth and the use of sweetners amke it easier to have a sweet drink with the use of suitable sweetners makes it all good,
What fiber supplement do you use Sasha, are you on the diet?
Cheers.