Oh No! She’s 5’6", not 6’6"! Thanks for the reply NE253. She drinks about 5litres (more than a gallon) of water a day. I do think that her body composition is changing, and she looks slimmers, but yeah, maybe the scale is just a lying B***tard
[quote]growr wrote:
Oh No! She’s 5’6", not 6’6"! Thanks for the reply NE253. She drinks about 5litres (more than a gallon) of water a day. I do think that her body composition is changing, and she looks slimmers, but yeah, maybe the scale is just a lying B***tard[/quote]
HEY!!!be loud be proud!!that scale is a lying BASTARD! when it comes to progress its all about the mirror…like ive gained weight and my friends joke around and say jeez have you stopped workin out looks like your getting smaller…then they back away as i get a little edgy
ok so ive been on this for about 1.5 months. been workin great so far, but now college has started back up and with that, soccer. can one of the vets tell me if this schedule is good.
we have practice m-w-th, and conditioning on tuesday. games on the weekends. im thinking of carbing up for 48 hrs starting thurs night at midnight and having workouts m-t-fri.
sound good?
i think i’ve made a huge mistake…
i got the original AD ebook, read through most of it, and have been on the AD for 6 days so far.
as i understood it, i was supposed to be gaging
my percentages of fat/protein going by grams,
so i’ve aiming for about(i don’t have my food log with me) ~450 g fat and ~275 g protein in my 4950 cal total (275 lb BW x 18).
should i have instead been calculating these percentages by kcal instead of grams, which would decrease my total fat g intake and increase my total protein g intake?
i’m a bit confused, because i don’t think Dr. D mentions anything about kcals in the original AD ebook, but i have come across it in this thread and elsewhere online.
hope this makes sense.
please help!
Wow…that is a gang of fat. I’ve got you at 5,150 calories total, and that doesn’t include the 120 from carbs.
If you’re sticking to the 18xBW, here’s how I would assume it would look:
275x18=4,950
4,950 x .6 (fat%) = 2,970
4,950 x .4 (pro%) = 1,980
Now, keep in mind this also does not cover your carbs, but that figure should be nominal anyway.
2,970 kcal fat / 9 (kcal per g fat) = 330g fat
1,980 kcal pro / 4 (kcal per g pro) = 495g pro
Those are your working numbers based on 18 x bodyweight (which I find to be high, but that’s just me). As I’ve mentioned before I’ve only been on this diet for about a month & a half, so take any advice I give with a grain of salt.
Thanks for the advice–
the numbers i posted were not exact, i’m at work and dont have access to the spreadsheet i’ve been using at home as a food log.
i’ts been a real pain to get that many fat grams while keeping protein grams to 40%. It makes a lot more sense to me now and i’ll be making the required adjustments.
Also, even though i’ve been ingesting “a gang of fat,” i’ve still lost 4 pounds so far these 5 days!
I’ll adjust and continue on to day 12.
does Dr. D mention this in the original AD ebook?
[quote]NE253 wrote:
Wow…that is a gang of fat. I’ve got you at 5,150 calories total, and that doesn’t include the 120 from carbs.
If you’re sticking to the 18xBW, here’s how I would assume it would look:
275x18=4,950
4,950 x .6 (fat%) = 2,970
4,950 x .4 (pro%) = 1,980
Now, keep in mind this also does not cover your carbs, but that figure should be nominal anyway.
2,970 kcal fat / 9 (kcal per g fat) = 330g fat
1,980 kcal pro / 4 (kcal per g pro) = 495g pro
Those are your working numbers based on 18 x bodyweight (which I find to be high, but that’s just me). As I’ve mentioned before I’ve only been on this diet for about a month & a half, so take any advice I give with a grain of salt.[/quote]
Damn, 1750 calories? how much do you weight and whats your height?
Shit, now I feel like crap eating 1850, lol.
Well, what I like most about this diet, is that its ultimately what works for you. I have a lot to lose, I would rather lose, fat and some muscle and then build back up if I need to. Right now I’m 5’11" 215 lbs at 23% BF. My goal is 170 lbs at 5-9% so I have it to lose. I know most people on this forum are trying to gain muscle and strength while dropping fat. I’m just trying to drop weight and fat, if I lose muscle, I lose muscle. Putting muscle on has never been an issue to me. So I don’t really care about that. I am more of an endurance athlete anyway, just carrying too much fat.
1750 works for me, some times I drop as low as 1500. The RD book says to take it as low as 1200, I do that to sometimes too. It all depends on my day and what I am doing. I will tell you this, after I cut, I WILL increase my calories, and then I will find a maintenance number and stick with that. A million people have a million theories but ultimately its WHAT WORKS FOR YOU!
People always tell me my calories are too low, who cares, I fell fine, my strength is fine, I’m benching 250 lbs for sets, 2 a day cardio at 60 min. thats not every day of course about 5 times a week. In the words of Dorian Yates, getting in shape is not about crunching numbers its about finding what works and what you can live with.
As long as I am sticking to a plan and it works for me then great. Maybe I am a freak, I fasted forty days on fresh juice, while working out 3x/wk, no problems there either, just a loss of strength. My calories then were about 500, low enough for all you skeptics? The body is much more complex than ANYONE can figure out!
Hey guys,
I know I should search the tread a bit more, but I am a bit short on time…Anyway, my question is that, when cutting and reducing the calories over the weeks, does the calories on the carb up day stay the same? ie change in macros, so if you were reducing the carbs, increase the fats/pro to keep the cals up or do you reduce overall calories from the carb up days aswell as during the week?
Thanks,
GJ
Another nifty find today…
Pine Nuts
1/4 cup
18 g fat
5 g carbs
4 g fiber
3 g protein
I have had pine nuts before but never noted how high the fiber to carb ratio was in them. I think I will have to start buying them more often, even though they are a bit expensive.
[quote]growr wrote:
Hi everyone. I was wondering if I could get some advice.
My girlfriend and I have been on the anabolic diet for a while, and so far, I’m getting good results, and she’s not losing any weight. Here’s a breakdown of what’s going on.
She’s 6’6", 148lbs, which is exactly what she weighed a week ago at the same time and slightly more than she weighed 2 weeks ago.
She’s on a diet of 1500calories a day and wwe do four workouts a week.
Workouts are:
Monday
10min cardio
All weight sets are paired with no rest between the individual exercises and a rest of 30seconds between each set of two exercises
Squats 4x12 + 1-legged bodyweight squad 4x12
leg press 4x12 + BB deadlifts 4x12
Hammy curl machine 4x12 + walking lunges 4x12
some AB work, mostly throwdowns.
10min cardio
Tuesday
Chest and back
10min cardio
Incline BB bench 4x12 + assisted pullups 4x12
lower-incline DB bench 4x12 + cable row 4x12
BB bench 4x12 + pulldowns 4x12
Decline BB bench 4x12 + Bent-over BB row 4x12
10min cardio
Wednesday off
Thursday
Shoulders and arms
10 min cardio
DB military press 4x10-12 +side raises 4x8-10
DB upright shoulder row 4x8-10 + front raises 4x8-10
BB curls 3x10-12 + Tricep pushdown 3x10-12
DB incline curls 4x8-10 + DB kickbacks (yeah yeah, we only do the top 15 degrees of motion and no swinging)4x8-10
Cable curls 4x8-10 + overhead rope tris 4x8-10
10min cardio
Friday
legs again.
She’s done induction for basically 3 weeks to make sure she’s changed, she hasn’t had a carb up yet, but she’s not losing any weight, which I find mind-boggling when I look at the workouts we do. Energy-wise she’s okay. I find it hard to believe that we’d have to reduce her calories even further. I’m more inclined to believe she’s in starvation mode.
Any opinions?
Thanks
Growr
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Scale weight is a poor indication of the efficacy of the AD, to be honest (DH said it many times).
She may well be losing fat and gaining LBM but maintaining the same weight. Happened to me…and many of the others here.
It’s better to check bodyfat %, if you have to measure something.
AD
[quote]bkmacky9288 wrote:
just curious how many monitor carb ups…ive found out which foods throw me for a loop and i dont get too bad on these days so i just go all out clean and very few trashy carbs…so how many of yous monitor your intake compared to just raiding everything whole wheat and sugary[/quote]
i moniter them to an extent, i try to eat clean, even if its junk food, its never microwaved or out of a box or something like that. i dont think im going to much whole grain stuff anymore though, i had a bunch of pasta and things of that nature earlier today for lunch…
felt a little groggy after the dessert but it passed very quickly, however as soon as i got home and had a bowl of bran flakes and a couple peanut butter& banana sandwhiches i was back to the nasty feeling…i actually got it right after the cereal but decided to go ahead with the sandwhiches anyway.
i dont think im taking the grains very well so tomorrow im going to stay away from grains as much as i can, witht he exception of cereal, but im going to try and have as much pasta and italian food as i can. lasagna, ravioli, pizza, calzones, ziti. hopefully ill maintain that “functional” feeling rather than the groggy, feeling like im going to either vomit or shit myself feeling.
[quote]Moon Knight wrote:
Another nifty find today…
Pine Nuts
1/4 cup
18 g fat
5 g carbs
4 g fiber
3 g protein
I have had pine nuts before but never noted how high the fiber to carb ratio was in them. I think I will have to start buying them more often, even though they are a bit expensive.[/quote]
More so than other nuts?
[quote]Whey Man wrote:
Moon Knight wrote:
Another nifty find today…
Pine Nuts
1/4 cup
18 g fat
5 g carbs
4 g fiber
3 g protein
I have had pine nuts before but never noted how high the fiber to carb ratio was in them. I think I will have to start buying them more often, even though they are a bit expensive.
More so than other nuts?
[/quote]
Most other nuts have a lower fiber to carb ratio. They also tend to be lower in total fiber per unit I believe.
lurk off
Hey all—I’m starting this on Monday, did my reading and planning, shopping should be fun 
All of your experiences is helping me and making me SO excited to get on the bandwagon!
I’m about 129 ~5’6 and I was planning on starting out at 18xBW (~2300 cals)…mentioned in the book and articles…do y’all suggest this for the first week or 2 then adjust if necessary?
I’m really just looking for maintenance and/or muscle gain
Also, does anyone suggest after the first week to only 1 carb up day, or wait 12 days to even have one?
Sounds good.
I would NOT limit your carb up in any way. Not for the first few months. Just because your body makes the switch, it hasn’t become fully fat adapted, from what I understand.
Personally I’ve been on for 1-1/2 months and I’m not going to tinker (other than dropping cals across the board) for probably another 6 weeks…if at all.
At 205 LB, and about 25-26% Bf, should I be consuming 120g of protein a day? or 150? I’m also lifting heavy in the gym, hoping to keep all my muscles, higher protein? or is lower fine?
[quote]Moon Knight wrote:
Whey Man wrote:
Moon Knight wrote:
Another nifty find today…
Pine Nuts
1/4 cup
18 g fat
5 g carbs
4 g fiber
3 g protein
I have had pine nuts before but never noted how high the fiber to carb ratio was in them. I think I will have to start buying them more often, even though they are a bit expensive.
More so than other nuts?
Most other nuts have a lower fiber to carb ratio. They also tend to be lower in total fiber per unit I believe.[/quote]
Whoops, I should’ve been more specific. I meant price wise. And yeah, Pecans have something like 4 carbs, 2 grams fiber per serving. I think walnuts do too.
Hey all I’m starting this diet on Monday (tomorrow)anyway I’m planning all the diet phases now but when i reach them i will plan them: right now I’ve sort of worked out my Start Up phase diet:
Morning:
3 Eggs, Sausage, 2 Strips of Bacon, Milk, Slice of Cheddar cheese. All fried in butter
Next Meal:
Steak (200g) Olive Oil fried, Slice of cheese and Nuts.
Next Meal: Repeated
Next Meal:
Steak (200g) Olive Oil fried, Slice of cheese and Nuts.
Next Meal:
Kransky Fried, Nuts, Onions,
Pre Post workout shake: This is annoying because my whey contains carbs and this will probably put me over the 30g
An basically continue going like this but I dunno what to do cos i entered all this into fit day and got approx this:
grams cals %total
Total: 3682
Fat: 240 2160 60%
Sat: 90 806 22%
Poly: 24 219 6%
Mono: 100 901 25%
Carbs: 10 41 1%
Fiber: 0 0 0%
Protein: 346 1383 39%
Alcohol: 0 0 0%
Now this is very rough but what do you think I should do to increase fat and lower protein?
[quote]Vuch wrote:
Hey all I’m starting this diet on Monday (tomorrow)anyway I’m planning all the diet phases now but when i reach them i will plan them: right now I’ve sort of worked out my Start Up phase diet:
Morning:
3 Eggs, Sausage, 2 Strips of Bacon, Milk, Slice of Cheddar cheese. All fried in butter
Next Meal:
Steak (200g) Olive Oil fried, Slice of cheese and Nuts.
Next Meal: Repeated
Next Meal:
Steak (200g) Olive Oil fried, Slice of cheese and Nuts.
Next Meal:
Kransky Fried, Nuts, Onions,
Pre Post workout shake: This is annoying because my whey contains carbs and this will probably put me over the 30g
An basically continue going like this but I dunno what to do cos i entered all this into fit day and got approx this:
grams cals %total
Total: 3682
Fat: 240 2160 60%
Sat: 90 806 22%
Poly: 24 219 6%
Mono: 100 901 25%
Carbs: 10 41 1%
Fiber: 0 0 0%
Protein: 346 1383 39%
Alcohol: 0 0 0%
Now this is very rough but what do you think I should do to increase fat and lower protein?
[/quote]
Your fat/protein looks fine to me. What I see is a total lack of veggies which is going to probably cause you problems in one form or another. I would swap out some/most of the nuts you are eating for some veggies. To make up for the lost fat from the nuts pour a salad dressing on the veggies.