The taste of the Costco kirkland olive oil is so olive tasty, lol. Ive been buying the cheap crap off of jons the past months, for 5 bucks, and it didnt taste ANYTHING like olives. The costco brand tastes like you just pressed the olive.
[quote]greekdawg wrote:
Doh wrote:
what do you guys think about including whip cream during the low carb days. I’m surprise there is only a little amount of carb in it. Is it safe to consume?
Are you kidding me? I practically live of heavy cream, eggs, olive oil, etc. Pure heavy cream has no carbs in it at all.
[/quote]
Yeah i agree, but ODing on the heavy cream has its downside, a lot of saturated fat that you probably don’t want, esp. if your cutting. I tend to just add an ounce to my shake, and a half ounce to coffee sometimes.
[quote]nycsoccax wrote:
greekdawg wrote:
Doh wrote:
what do you guys think about including whip cream during the low carb days. I’m surprise there is only a little amount of carb in it. Is it safe to consume?
Are you kidding me? I practically live of heavy cream, eggs, olive oil, etc. Pure heavy cream has no carbs in it at all.
Yeah i agree, but ODing on the heavy cream has its downside, a lot of saturated fat that you probably don’t want, esp. if your cutting. I tend to just add an ounce to my shake, and a half ounce to coffee sometimes.[/quote]
Yeah, I love that heavy shit too, like Dawg, but when cutting, unfortunately it has to have a limit on it…
Same with the olive oil, shits killer, I like to mix it w/sat.fat from the cream in shakes sometimes..
Who would have thought you could make suck killer shakes with no milk ya know...ice/water and the killa fats, and voila..
I like to toss in when CHO counts say it's doable, 100%cocoa so it breaks up like lil pieces of choc chip...a few equals, and the shits just like choc chips...awesome, esp. with the anti-ox effects for post wkout shake addition..
I'm back on day 4 I guess, here on the readapt train.....hooray...it was so much fun the first time, I had to do it again....lol.
see ya guys,
ToneBone
…alright so should i be lifting on the carb up or not, and should i be taking in the same amount of calories as regular days or do i just binge?
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
…alright so should i be lifting on the carb up or not,[/quote]
It doesn’t matter.
If you want to add fat, binge, otherwise, just eat sensible meals, consisting of mostly, oatmeal, whole grains, rice, pasta, potatoes, etc.
-james
hey guys i have a quick question. i have tried this diet a while back and liked it. but i was wondering if this diet can be used to gain lean muscle cause im playing college football in the spring and i was wondering if the huge amount of cardio i do will cause me too loose weight on this diet. any advice would be very helpful thanks.
thanks james.
alright well im going to go on my first carb up tomorrow, are there any signs i should be looking for to indicate that everything is going ok (aside from the euphoria of having foods i havent eatin in weeks)…or signs that things are going wrong?
im gonna go get a couple of bannana-nut muffins, maybe a bagel, rice and beans, cereal not sure what else but i really want to have some pizza and a little ice cream, i figure a couple of “cheat” meals mixed in wont do any damage aslong as they arent the majoriy of my intake.
[quote]natural59 wrote:
shoelessjones wrote:
Filmmakerr wrote:
crap, I get olive oil from costco, which is in a plastic bottle…and it says “Cold pressed first”…no idea what that means, but I hate the word “first” in there. lol.
I actually asked Costco after reading TC’s article on it… this was their response in regards to their Pure OO and their EVOO. K/S is the Kirkland/Signature brand:
Dear Jeff,
Thank you for your email to Costco Wholesale.
- This year�??s (2002 Harvest) K/S program represents an approximately 45% of the total IGP Certified crop. Last
year, the K/S program represented about 35%.
- Tuscan olive oil is the highest quality olive oil in the world. Tuscany produces olive oil to such a high degree
that its olive oil has been given its own label of origin, in the same way as renowned wines are defined by
their regional origin. Tuscany is a protected geographical cultivation for oil. An organization called the
Consorzio manages and carefully documents the crop of each grower and provides a sequentially numbered
seal to every bottle.
- Only olives grown in the Tuscano region, located on the northwestern coast of Italy, are pressed and labeled
as IGP Certified Tuscan.
- The most prevalent olive varieties in the Tuscan region are Frantoio, Leccino, Moraiolo, and Pendolino.
However, there are many other varieties grown in smaller amounts. They are: Arancino, Ciliegino, Grappolo,
Gremignolo, Grossolana, Larcianese, Lazzero, Leccio del Corno, Leccione, Maddona dell�??Impruneto,
Morchiacio, Olivastra, Seggianese, Pesciatino, Piangente, Punteruolo, Razzaio, Rossellino, Rossello.
-
There is no refining process used in the production of any Extra Virgin
-
Olive Oil. All olives are pressed within 24 hours of harvest. Panel tests are performed to confirm the absence
of any defects. Total acidity must be equal or lower to 0.5%, Peroxides equal or lower to 16, and K232 equal
or lower to 2.3.
- All IGP Certified Tuscan product is excellent olive oil. The only difference between K/S product and other IGP
Certified product is that IGP�??s maximum acidity is 0.6%. Borges guarantees a 0.5% maximum on K/S
product.
- The max. temperature during all the pressing process of our Tuscan product is 28º Celsius. The conversion
from 28 degree Celsius is 82.4 degrees Fahrenheit.
Thank you,
Peggy
Costco Wholesale Corporation
Interesting…
Did you ask them why it is packaged in plastic containers…?
-james[/quote]
no i didn’t… i was more interested in the authenticity… since i am going through it pretty darn fast and it’s stored in a dark shelf.
can anyone puts out a few brands (maybe chop up the name a bit) that are quality goods? EVOO speaking
[quote]oneforship wrote:
So today is my first carb-up day on the AD, and I’m wondering how exactly I’m supposed to feel? I’m a little groggy and slow moving right now, but I did have to get up quite early for work this morning. What did you guys experience?[/quote]
The same thing, actually. 
AD
How long did you guys stay on the diet before you decided you were acclimated enough to either cut or bulk?
I’m about to hit my 3rd carb-up this weekend, and I’m kinda torn on a direction to head.
I’m leaning towards bulking, personally. I can see the outline of my abs, but no real visible definition in between each. I’m 5’-10", 211 lbs as of last Saturday.
I’ve been cutting off & on for quite a while, so that leads me to think a bulk is in order and, with the AD, would be fairly beneficial if done decently.
However, the one gnawing aspect is I know I’m not 10%, like written in the book, and if I hadn’t been cutting as regularly without a good, serious bulk, I’d definitely head that direction now. Most of my lifts had hit a plateau as of late as well.
Any ideas on which direction would be most beneficial at this point, and how much longer I should wait to make that distinction? Most of the things I’ve read say not to tinker until 2 months into this.
can someone helo me out? ive been on the diet for a while now, about 6 months and eat nothing but chicken, green veg steak and eggs…(in college, broke ha ha) and I am highly active.
work out maybe 2 times a day, oly lifting in the morning and wither wrestling or jiu jitsu at night monday-sat and sometimes sunday with work on top of that.
I used to feel good but now im consistantly drained and can hardly get outa bed to train, no energy! its hard trying to maintain 190 for me ( im a nat 210). should I up the fats? or take in more carbs?
thanks
[quote]thehorse65 wrote:
can someone helo me out? ive been on the diet for a while now, about 6 months and eat nothing but chicken, green veg steak and eggs…(in college, broke ha ha) and I am highly active.
work out maybe 2 times a day, oly lifting in the morning and wither wrestling or jiu jitsu at night monday-sat and sometimes sunday with work on top of that.
I used to feel good but now im consistantly drained and can hardly get outa bed to train, no energy! its hard trying to maintain 190 for me ( im a nat 210). should I up the fats? or take in more carbs?
thanks[/quote]
Dude…what’s your daily or weekly caloric intake?
SOunds like you need to eat more food (calories).
AD
[quote]franchise95p wrote:
How long did you guys stay on the diet before you decided you were acclimated enough to either cut or bulk?
I’m about to hit my 3rd carb-up this weekend, and I’m kinda torn on a direction to head.
I’m leaning towards bulking, personally. I can see the outline of my abs, but no real visible definition in between each. I’m 5’-10", 211 lbs as of last Saturday.
I’ve been cutting off & on for quite a while, so that leads me to think a bulk is in order and, with the AD, would be fairly beneficial if done decently.
However, the one gnawing aspect is I know I’m not 10%, like written in the book, and if I hadn’t been cutting as regularly without a good, serious bulk, I’d definitely head that direction now. Most of my lifts had hit a plateau as of late as well.
Any ideas on which direction would be most beneficial at this point, and how much longer I should wait to make that distinction? Most of the things I’ve read say not to tinker until 2 months into this.[/quote]
I jumped right into a bulk, even though I was at 25%BF. I wound up gaining LBM and losing fat (to about 15%BF) before doing a “cut” for summer (I put it in quotes because I’m too skinny to “cut” technically. )
I think the 10% is to make sure one can rapidly drop to low single digits BF…in my personal experience, anyway.
My .02
AD
[quote]franchise95p wrote:
How long did you guys stay on the diet before you decided you were acclimated enough to either cut or bulk?
I’m about to hit my 3rd carb-up this weekend, and I’m kinda torn on a direction to head.
I’m leaning towards bulking, personally. I can see the outline of my abs, but no real visible definition in between each. I’m 5’-10", 211 lbs as of last Saturday.
I’ve been cutting off & on for quite a while, so that leads me to think a bulk is in order and, with the AD, would be fairly beneficial if done decently.
However, the one gnawing aspect is I know I’m not 10%, like written in the book, and if I hadn’t been cutting as regularly without a good, serious bulk, I’d definitely head that direction now. Most of my lifts had hit a plateau as of late as well.
Any ideas on which direction would be most beneficial at this point, and how much longer I should wait to make that distinction? Most of the things I’ve read say not to tinker until 2 months into this.[/quote]
The next time someone says to you, you need to “bulk up,” cover your ears with your hands, say, “la la la la, I can’t hear you,” then run (don’t walk) away…
Here is a good article on the subject:
http://www.T-Nation.com/readArticle.do?id=1021940
Although, CS uses extreme examples to stress his point, don’t be distracted by them…IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO ADD BEAUCOUP POUNDS OF UNWANTED FAT IN ORDER TO PACK ON LOTS OF LEAN MUSCLE MASS.
Personally, I think somewhere around 10% bf is a good off-peak bf percentage. That is an acceptable “bulk.” More than that, and you are just kidding yourself, and adding unnecessary fat that will take you MONTHS to remove later.
Stay around 10%bf, and if you want to peak, you can cut to 4-6%. For a 200lb. man, that’s still 8-12lbs. of fat, and depending on your metabolism, diet, etc., 6-8 weeks of cutting. Or you can add 30+ lbs. of fat, like many do, and spend 5-6 months trying to remove it.
Your choice…
-james
[quote]thehorse65 wrote:
can someone helo me out? ive been on the diet for a while now, about 6 months and eat nothing but chicken, green veg steak and eggs…(in college, broke ha ha) and I am highly active.
work out maybe 2 times a day, oly lifting in the morning and wither wrestling or jiu jitsu at night monday-sat and sometimes sunday with work on top of that.
I used to feel good but now im consistantly drained and can hardly get outa bed to train, no energy! its hard trying to maintain 190 for me ( im a nat 210). should I up the fats? or take in more carbs?
thanks[/quote]
What is your body composition…?
If you are fat adapted, and you are carrying extra bf, your body should be burning this for fuel, if your fat intake is too low.
But if you are lean, increase your fat consumption during the week, and, yes, you can increase carbs on the weekend, as this is what replaces your muscle glycogen stores. And make sure that these are good, quality carbs, i.e., oatmeal, pasta, rice, potatoes, etc.
However, it sounds like you may be overtraining, and I no diet can offset that…
Remember, diet and recovery time are just as important as your workout. They go hand-in-hand. If any of these areas are lacking, gains won’t be optimal, and may even diminish.
-james
I’m on my 2nd day of my carb-up and damn I thoguht this would be easier than the adaption, but to me it takes more planning to make sure you get the starchy carbs you need… I didn’t realize how MUCH 510 g of starchy carbs was !
I need to get some oats/oatmeal which I never ate (I know not good) I thought I could get by on Whole Wheat bread, whole wheat pasta and potatos…
Also I’m having trouble keeping the protein and fats where they need to be. Today so far 57% is carbs, 27% fats & 16% pro. How do you keep the protein so low?? I quess it will take some getting use to and I need to be more prepared for my next carb-up… I’m just so use to eating a lot of protein, I need to adjust…
My VERY FIRST T-Nation Post. Hello all.
I’m on day 3 of the AD diet. I read through 75 pages of this thread before finally deciding to move on. I feel I have a pretty firm grasp on it.
I’m using AD to cut right now.
I’m 5’10 at 173lbs and around 14%bf. I hope to cut the bf down below 10% before I begin any bulking.
I have no questions at this point (can you believe it!?)just wanted to introduce myself and thank DH and the many others who contributed to this thread and made it so informative.
[quote]AlphaDragon wrote:
thehorse65 wrote:
can someone helo me out? ive been on the diet for a while now, about 6 months and eat nothing but chicken, green veg steak and eggs…(in college, broke ha ha) and I am highly active.
work out maybe 2 times a day, oly lifting in the morning and wither wrestling or jiu jitsu at night monday-sat and sometimes sunday with work on top of that.
I used to feel good but now im consistantly drained and can hardly get outa bed to train, no energy! its hard trying to maintain 190 for me ( im a nat 210). should I up the fats? or take in more carbs?
thanks
Dude…what’s your daily or weekly caloric intake?
SOunds like you need to eat more food (calories).
AD[/quote]
my daily intake is 2800-3000 daily but mostly from olive oil and eggs, lotta eggs
[quote]natural59 wrote:
thehorse65 wrote:
can someone helo me out? ive been on the diet for a while now, about 6 months and eat nothing but chicken, green veg steak and eggs…(in college, broke ha ha) and I am highly active.
work out maybe 2 times a day, oly lifting in the morning and wither wrestling or jiu jitsu at night monday-sat and sometimes sunday with work on top of that.
I used to feel good but now im consistantly drained and can hardly get outa bed to train, no energy! its hard trying to maintain 190 for me ( im a nat 210). should I up the fats? or take in more carbs?
thanks
What is your body composition…?
If you are fat adapted, and you are carrying extra bf, your body should be burning this for fuel, if your fat intake is too low.
But if you are lean, increase your fat consumption during the week, and, yes, you can increase carbs on the weekend, as this is what replaces your muscle glycogen stores. And make sure that these are good, quality carbs, i.e., oatmeal, pasta, rice, potatoes, etc.
However, it sounds like you may be overtraining, and I no diet can offset that…
Remember, diet and recovery time are just as important as your workout. They go hand-in-hand. If any of these areas are lacking, gains won’t be optimal, and may even diminish.
-james
[/quote]
im 6 ft walk at 204 and grapple at 184lbs with 12%bodyfat.
I dont really know if im fat adpt, to tell you the truth, i did the 12 day trans period a couple months ago and sometimes I feel great and other days I feel sluggish( usually at the end of the week) I might be over training but growing up wrestling, their is no such thing as over training. but in reality i might be. I put on the pounds pretty fast mostly water.