My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
Guys and gals, you gotta check out frying cheese if you haven’t already. It’s also known as Mexican cheese:
http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/recipes/puebla/kgqueso1.html

I use fresco cheese and cotija cheese. You fry them on a skillet. If you slice them thinly, they are like cheese chips. It is amazing stuff.[/quote]

When you started talking about fried cheese I thought you meant something else. Brazilians love their fried cheese also (at least in the North-East), but they don’t make it crispy. I don’t know the name of the cheese they use, but it sounds like the Queso Blanco in the link you provided.

It’s cut thick (about 1cm) and fried in a bit of oil. It becomes soft and a bit gooey on the outside, but remains firm on the inside. They usually serve it for breakfast with fresh bread-rolls and it’s delicious. I’ve never had it with eggs, but the combination sounds perfect to me :slight_smile:

I will try your fried cheese too, CaliforniaLaw. I like my egg yolks runny, but without bread to dip in, I never know what to do with myself :slight_smile:

[quote]tufnutz wrote:
For pre-workout I am taking 50g of whey + 1tsb of olive oil.

For PWO meal, I’ve been taking in 25g whey, 1/2 cup heavy whipping cream and 1tsb of olive oil. Plus, I am taking 5-10g of BCAA.

Does anyone see a problem with this? Is there a better protocol?

Thanks.[/quote]

You can check with the others, but I don’t take in fat pre-workout & postworkout. I just see it as slowing things down, especially if you are sipping on some BCAAs during the workout, fat pre-workout might not be the best strategy IMO. Pre I just have protein and post I have the BCAA, glutamine, glycine, & whey combo shake that is touted as optimal for ADers. (poliquin reccomends the same thing too.)

By the way, have any of the ADers read Christians’s new article “Refined Physique Transformation”?

I think it is spot on. and fits right in with the AD perfectly. I think its good because it outlines how one should carb up based on their bf %. Which for me, is a big help as I can tend to go crazy on carb days. If you haven’t read it, check it out and then let’s discuss it here.

        Hey guys, how's it?

Well I’m in week 2, fourth day in. I am back down to 192 from 198 from the weekend carb binge. I think I went too high, and that’s why the big weight gain. No problem, it’s all about our experiences and learning right?

So this week my cals have been down to 2300,2500,2600, and today will shoot for around 2200 total.

Keeping fat around 45-55%,so far, going to try 40-45% the rest of the week here. CHO is in check under 30, protein up nice, and overall I’m feeling great. I didn’t like the feeling of the carb up this past weekend. Reminded me of how shitty carbs make my body feel.

I think that I will stick to a one day carb binge to bring about better fat loss results this coming couple of weeks. Maybe one and a half days, but definitely a “cleaner” carb up. I didn’t notice any real fullness or swelling up of the muscle tissue, so maybe that’s from being too early on in the AD, I don’t know. Strength hasn’t noticeably increased yet either, but again, it’s early yet…

So, that’s where I’m at, I’m cuttin down on saturated fat, and increasing healthy ones too. Tossin in plenty of the fish caps, flax powder, evening primrose added as well now too, and of course the olive oil, with some hemp too.

Ok, that’s it guys. Hope you’re all kickin ass, and I will chime in again later this week.
p.s. waist is down an inch, from last weeks leanest day.
cio, ToneBone

[quote]Chef Lisa Marie wrote:
Something I made last night that I thought you guys/gals might like.

[center]Parmesan “Chips”[/center][/quote]

Yum! I “discovered” those by accident once. I coated calamari with olive oil and Parmesan cheese and baked them in the oven. I ended up liking the cheese that fell in between the calamari rings much better than the calamari.

Thanks for the great recipe.

Has anyone here used HOT-ROX Extreme on the AD and if so, have there been good results using it?

For kicks, I bought some ketostix and measured the ketones in my urine. It came up positive (albeit, only a trace amount, but it’s definitely positive). I am only day 4 into the diet and I am following it very closely.

Should I up my carbs? I plan on carbing up early on day 6 (Sat). Any drawbacks here?

Thanks.

don’t you have to have bread crumbs for fried cheese?

[quote]tufnutz wrote:
For kicks, I bought some ketostix and measured the ketones in my urine. It came up positive (albeit, only a trace amount, but it’s definitely positive). I am only day 4 into the diet and I am following it very closely.

Should I up my carbs? I plan on carbing up early on day 6 (Sat). Any drawbacks here?

Thanks.[/quote]

Where does one get ketostix?

Damn…talk about hating on the emo’s. YIKES

OMC

[quote]bkmacky9288 wrote:
krew wrote:
Brant_Drake wrote:
The anabolic diet is great for losing weight too, don’t forget that. Just follow the cutting instructions. Feeling like crap isn’t an optimal way to reach your goals.

. . . unless you want to be emo.

yah the more I think about it the more I want to switch to the AD…
more food = a happier Kari!

emo = ?? i’m a little slow…haha…should I know what this means

emo kids are the fags that are all gender confused…the boys wear tight ass jeans that make there balls disintagrate as they rub against the fabric bringing them closer to being a woman…the the chicks look like dykes for the most part and not the kind any guy would pay to seee…only to accidently catch in a parked vehicle for free[/quote]

[quote]greekdawg wrote:
tufnutz wrote:
For pre-workout I am taking 50g of whey + 1tsb of olive oil.

For PWO meal, I’ve been taking in 25g whey, 1/2 cup heavy whipping cream and 1tsb of olive oil. Plus, I am taking 5-10g of BCAA.

Does anyone see a problem with this? Is there a better protocol?

Thanks.

You can check with the others, but I don’t take in fat pre-workout & postworkout. I just see it as slowing things down, especially if you are sipping on some BCAAs during the workout, fat pre-workout might not be the best strategy IMO. Pre I just have protein and post I have the BCAA, glutamine, glycine, & whey combo shake that is touted as optimal for ADers. (poliquin reccomends the same thing too.)

By the way, have any of the ADers read Christians’s new article “Refined Physique Transformation”?

I think it is spot on. and fits right in with the AD perfectly. I think its good because it outlines how one should carb up based on their bf %. Which for me, is a big help as I can tend to go crazy on carb days. If you haven’t read it, check it out and then let’s discuss it here.[/quote]

I read CT?s article and thought it was very interesting as well. I can?t help to wonder, especially after this article, if you?re trying to loose bf, longer period between the loads (as long as 2 wks as CT puts it), as well as low dosage of CHO (only 0.75g/lb) which means most likely one meal of intense load, would be ideal.

What problems do you see with this; other than the obvious of being depleted for long length of time which will hinder your training intensity, are there any hormonal disadvantages in loosing bf?

Although I am back on mass phase now, it would be nice to hear some objections to this, keeping in mind that the goal as CT outlined, is to change body comp. Any thoughts?

[quote]allNatural wrote:
don’t you have to have bread crumbs for fried cheese?[/quote]

No.

[quote]Chef Lisa Marie wrote:
Something I made last night that I thought you guys/gals might like.

[center]Parmesan “Chips”[/center]

Ingredients
Parmesan Cheese Shredded (not grated)
Fresh Ground Pepper
(any other seasoning you like)

Method

  1. Preheat oven to 400
  2. Place Tbsps of Parmesan in small piles on a silicone sheet or a well greased sheet pan.
  3. Bake for about 7-12 minutes depending how well done you like them.
  4. Remove and peel them off the pan and lay them out to cool.
  5. As they cool they crisp up like chips…

Each Tbsp of Grated Parmesan
(aprox 5g)has:
25 calories
Negligible Net Carbs
2 g Fat
2 g Protein[/quote]

Wonderful! Thanks ChefLisaMarie. Sounds great!

AD

[quote]Chef Lisa Marie wrote:
Something I made last night that I thought you guys/gals might like.

[center]Parmesan “Chips”[/center]

Ingredients
Parmesan Cheese Shredded (not grated)
Fresh Ground Pepper
(any other seasoning you like)

Method

  1. Preheat oven to 400
  2. Place Tbsps of Parmesan in small piles on a silicone sheet or a well greased sheet pan.
  3. Bake for about 7-12 minutes depending how well done you like them.
  4. Remove and peel them off the pan and lay them out to cool.
  5. As they cool they crisp up like chips…

Each Tbsp of Grated Parmesan
(aprox 5g)has:
25 calories
Negligible Net Carbs
2 g Fat
2 g Protein[/quote]

dude thats awesome…AD chips:)

          Whoa horsie!!
Hey gang what's up? I found a veritable gold mine of low carb goodies. Pizza crust zero carb, lots and lots of cool stuff. Now granted some of this is debatable as far as really being "low carb" ie: sugar alcohol type shit etc. But there are plenty that look really legit, where they have dietary fiber that matches or comes close to the carb count.

   I'm back and forth on this, I try to contact companies when the fiber is listed as just "dietary". But I'm anal when it comes to that...I try to see how much is soluble vs. insoluble, to figure subtractions accurately. 

     But check out this pizza crust!! Who'd have thought pizza was doable during the week eh?
     It's 7gm CHO, and 7gm dietary fiber. Worse case if it was all soluble that would still make it only 3.5 actual countable carbs..
      So without further ado,
    here it is, HAVE AT IT!!!
  www.vivalowcarb.com
       CHEERS EVERYONE,
           YEEHAW!  
           ToneBone

[quote]greekdawg wrote:
tufnutz wrote:
For kicks, I bought some ketostix and measured the ketones in my urine. It came up positive (albeit, only a trace amount, but it’s definitely positive). I am only day 4 into the diet and I am following it very closely.

Should I up my carbs? I plan on carbing up early on day 6 (Sat). Any drawbacks here?

Thanks.

Where does one get ketostix?[/quote]

Get them at any pharmacy-- Longs, Rite-Aid, etc. I paid $14 for 50 test strips.

From what I read, I am not supposed to be in ketosis and I’m concerned that I am burning too much muscle in this state.

quick question… I have been on the AD in the past, stuck with it for about 8 months, but it got too tough to do in a dorm with only caf food to choose from… i am coming back around.

my QUESTION is, what kinds of workouts (your own, or the site’s) are you trying, or have you tried that worked excellently? Thanks dudes!

Here’s a list of 101 foods to eat on the Anabolic Diet:

stronglifts.com/101-foods-to-eat-on-the-anabolic-diet/

This will help beginners to know what they can eat. Lack of variety is a common problem on the Anabolic Diet. This will give you plenty of choice.

So glad to see this thread still going strong.

I followed the AD lifestyle for 18 months and surpassed all the goals I had originally set for myself. My body weight dropped from nearly 330 to 278 and built 22 pounds of lean mass. I had basically switched to the RD to break the 280 barrier that was a real sticking point for me.

After reaching that goal I felt a strange sensation, I was feeling cold and my body temp was consistently lower than normal so decided it was time for a re-feed and a nice long break. I didn’t intend on the break being 4 months long but I think I needed every minute of it. After being on the AD for so long, feeling cold wasn’t normal…being hot almost all the time is quite normal!

So here I am starting over again but this time with the knowledge of a few lessons learned from the year and a half experimenting and generally loving life on the AD. This time around I’m not scared of fat! It took a while for the low fat brainwashing to be cleared out of my head and I now know that my adaptation would have happened much faster if I had not been so timid (initially) of consuming a high percentage of fat.

1.5 gallons of water per day is the absolute minimum for me when on the AD. I had no idea how vital it was to drink lots of water. 3 gallons per day is pretty typical.

Green tea and fish oil! I was a little slow signing on to both of them and now can’t imagine not having them.

The big lesson for me was not waiting until I was fully adapted before experimenting. I started trying to tweek things way too early (couple months in) and in hindsight this really was a mistake.

I’ll be sure to update on my progress and put my $0.02 in to those who have questions.

great contribution.

OMC

[quote]Mehdi2 wrote:
Here’s a list of 101 foods to eat on the Anabolic Diet:

stronglifts.com/101-foods-to-eat-on-the-anabolic-diet/

This will help beginners to know what they can eat. Lack of variety is a common problem on the Anabolic Diet. This will give you plenty of choice.[/quote]

[quote]Photo Guy wrote:
This time around I’m not scared of fat! It took a while for the low fat brainwashing to be cleared out of my head and I now know that my adaptation would have happened much faster if I had not been so timid (initially) of consuming a high percentage of fat.

1.5 gallons of water per day is the absolute minimum for me when on the AD. I had no idea how vital it was to drink lots of water. 3 gallons per day is pretty typical.

Green tea and fish oil! I was a little slow signing on to both of them and now can’t imagine not having them.

The big lesson for me was not waiting until I was fully adapted before experimenting. I started trying to tweek things way too early (couple months in) and in hindsight this really was a mistake.
[/quote]

While this entire post is awesome, I think EVERYONE who begins the AD should read and fully understand the last paragraph especially.

Maybe it should be the AD mantra…

AD