Not necessary but from my research and observations of friends etc who have bulked on this diet, I believe it can help greatly. Straight after training there is a window for carb intake as the muscles are exhausted of glycogen.
To my knowledge it is because of this that the carb intake can occur without disrupting your metabolism. Don’t take my word for it…experiment and find what works for you once your settled into the diet.
OMC
[quote]boatnerj wrote:
Hey OMC,
You say post workout carbs are neccesarry for bulking on this? I remember reading many pages back that they say too many carbs will just keep you from primarily using fats for energy.
I’m trying to gain on this diet right now (with a bodybuilding emphasis) using a mid week spike on wednesday and a full day saturday and its working out so far. Why would the pwo carbs be neccessary for bulking and how would you work them into the daily allowances.[/quote]
I need some advice. This past weekend I was out of town and ended up having a four-day hi-cal mixed diet. For the past five weeks I’ve tried to keep it at only a one day carb-up. This has worked out great so far - until I screwed up for a few days.
So my question is do I go right back on the 12-day induction or just do 6 days on, 1 off like usual ?
I know that from others experience, TRUE fat adaptation often takes several months.
Thanks!
I’ve been desolving my BCAA’s around 30g in of hot water and drinking it during my workout. You can add some crystal light for taste. After my workout I slam down some glutimine.
Can creatine be used while on the Radical Diet? The brand I use has 5g of creatine and 28g of sugar - this will bring me over my daily limit of 30g but is it worth it?
[quote]krew wrote:
Can creatine be used while on the Radical Diet? The brand I use has 5g of creatine and 28g of sugar - this will bring me over my daily limit of 30g but is it worth it?[/quote]
Get a creatine w/o sugar otherwise you will be blowing your whole load in one shot on that creatine drink. You can space those carbs more evenly throughout the day.
[quote]greekdawg wrote:
Hagar wrote:
BCAA’s aren’t that much. I just bought 2 336g tubs @ $23 each and use 20 to 35 g a workout.
Hagar, That seems like a good price. I’m in cali also. Where abouts are you getting them, also are they powder or tabs?[/quote]
I order mine over the internet I just went to Supplement Warehouse but you can really find it at other places. I buy NOW or Optimum Nutrition. I get the powder and dissolve it in hot water. Since I take a lot the capsules are too expensive.
[quote]Hagar wrote:
greekdawg wrote:
Hagar wrote:
BCAA’s aren’t that much. I just bought 2 336g tubs @ $23 each and use 20 to 35 g a workout.
I order mine over the internet I just went to Supplement Warehouse but you can really find it at other places. I buy NOW or Optimum Nutrition. I get the powder and dissolve it in hot water. Since I take a lot the capsules are too expensive. [/quote]
Hagar, That seems like a good price. I’m in cali also. Where abouts are you getting them, also are they powder or tabs?
Damn I really demolished some carbs this weekend 900g on Sat and 500g on sun. My arms went from 17.5in to 17.75in by sun morning, and my wieght went up 10 lbs.
Last week I barely benched 285 7reps x 3sets and today got an easy 295 7reps x 3 sets. I also did a 3 sets of preacher curls and 2 drop sets of cable curls. An hour after my workout my arms measured 18 in. This morning one of my friends said “damn your getting big” Needless to say I’m happy. This diet rules.
[quote]greekdawg wrote:
krew wrote:
Can creatine be used while on the Radical Diet? The brand I use has 5g of creatine and 28g of sugar - this will bring me over my daily limit of 30g but is it worth it?
Get a creatine w/o sugar otherwise you will be blowing your whole load in one shot on that creatine drink. You can space those carbs more evenly throughout the day.
Biotest has a good one, and it’s cheap.[/quote]
I was always told that carbs are needed for proper creatine absorbtion?? Have I been misinformed?
[quote]Hagar wrote:
Damn I really demolished some carbs this weekend 900g on Sat and 500g on sun. My arms went from 17.5in to 17.75in by sun morning, and my wieght went up 10 lbs.
Last week I barely benched 285 7reps x 3sets and today got an easy 295 7reps x 3 sets. I also did a 3 sets of preacher curls and 2 drop sets of cable curls. An hour after my workout my arms measured 18 in. This morning one of my friends said “damn your getting big” Needless to say I’m happy. This diet rules. [/quote]
Awesome Hagar.
Keep it up, very motivating stuff.. ToneBone
First I just want to thank everyone for their posts re the AD. I read the first 50 pages of this thread and then skipped to the last 10 pages or so. Tremendous help!
Today is day 1 for me.
I have a few questions. First, what’s the earliest anyone’s “crashed?” I was following a very low CHO diet before this and I expect to make the switch sooner than later. I already feel lethargic, but I did notice that within 10-15 of eating my steak or burger that I felt good.
Also, is it ok to play around with the calories initially? I am 200lbs, 14%bf and looking to cut down to 10%. My maintenance calories before AD was approximately 2200k. The AD would have me at 3600k. That’s a huge increase overnight and I think a little much for my cutting purpose. I am shooting for 3000k as a middle point. Any problem with this?
Again, thanks a lot for all the informative posts.
[quote]Brant_Drake wrote:
krew wrote:
I was always told that carbs are needed for proper creatine absorbtion?? Have I been misinformed?
Insulin helps absorbtion, but remember creatine travels into the cell through the sodium pump. Take it with some salt. [/quote]
Whey protein stimulates insulin as do other types of protein. Try taking creatine with a salty whey protein drink. Sounds gross but maybe that’ll work.
[quote]Hagar wrote:
Brant_Drake wrote:
krew wrote:
I was always told that carbs are needed for proper creatine absorbtion?? Have I been misinformed?
Insulin helps absorbtion, but remember creatine travels into the cell through the sodium pump. Take it with some salt.
Whey protein stimulates insulin as do other types of protein. Try taking creatine with a salty whey protein drink. Sounds gross but maybe that’ll work. [/quote]
hmm…let me see if I have this straight - no sugar needed - only salt and whey protein?? Than I’ve been doing things wrong for a long time…
[quote]krew wrote:
Hagar wrote:
Brant_Drake wrote:
krew wrote:
I was always told that carbs are needed for proper creatine absorbtion?? Have I been misinformed?
Insulin helps absorbtion, but remember creatine travels into the cell through the sodium pump. Take it with some salt.
Whey protein stimulates insulin as do other types of protein. Try taking creatine with a salty whey protein drink. Sounds gross but maybe that’ll work.
hmm…let me see if I have this straight - no sugar needed - only salt and whey protein?? Than I’ve been doing things wrong for a long time…
What do you guys think about post-workout shake of 2 tbsp of natural peanut butter and a blend of whey, soy and casein protein? it has 47pro/7carb/20fat. I figured since you’re trying to train the body to burn fat instead of carbs you should give it fat post-workout and it will sooner or later give it the same response as carbs would have before. Any thoughts on this?
[quote]stevefinch wrote:
What do you guys think about post-workout shake of 2 tbsp of natural peanut butter and a blend of whey, soy and casein protein? it has 47pro/7carb/20fat. I figured since you’re trying to train the body to burn fat instead of carbs you should give it fat post-workout and it will sooner or later give it the same response as carbs would have before. Any thoughts on this?[/quote]
I, and several others on this site, tend to try to minimize our soy intake. In short, it’s not good stuff. Do a search to find out why.